COM PETI TW NE WSLETTENX ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS 815 FIFTEENTH STREET NW WASHINGTON DC 20005 World Champs Turn Selection 1981 NC Aerobatics Team Finals Sfte Selected overwhelming margin 1981 RC Aerobatics team Finals-qualifiers have voted hold Masters Tournament team selection Finals Huntsville AL weekend June 27-28 1981 Rocket City Radio Controllers Inc RCRC will hosts Tournament finalists also voted three operational planseach different entry feethey would accept Once again over whelming majority favored plan whereby RCRC would supply meet person nel including contest director judges entry fee will $50 1981 NC Aerobatics World Champs Date Sfte Changedi unprecedented move organizers 1981 RC Aerobatics World Champion ships have changed date site entry fee prestigious contest site now set Acapulco Mexico altitude 30 ft above sea level city lo cated Pacific west coast Mexico approximately 200 miles south Mexico City date Champs has now moved September 22-2 7 Tuesday through Saturday Entry fee previously proposed $350/contestant has increased $375 Since arrangements completely different ones approved FAIs ClAM last Decembers plenary meet ing will certainly source dis cussion next FAI meeting April Paris However such late date FAI will probably let changes stand could course disapprove possibly leading cancellation Champion shipsan unlikely event Actual site World Championships proposed Pie de Ia Cuesta Military Air Base located approximately 16 Km 10 miles north city Acapulco General News AMA Numbers New Era Coming growth AMA membership has en gendered new problem Running out AMA numbers present AMA numbers limited five digits means highest number can used 99999 theory should present problems until membership reaches fig ure practice trouble has arisen because numbers reserved current holder year after membership has expired usually occurs member does renew membership promptly year easy see membership now approaching 80000 mark doesnt take too late-renewers completely exhaust supply numbers available 1981 NC Soaring World Champ Housing Package Recent Executive Council action see AMA News section approved minutes January 31 1981 Council meeting published sometime future has resulted rescinding reserva tion policy AMA numbers effective March 31 1981 long-term solution problem may adoption alpha-numeric AMA numbers possibly going six-digit number Present direction Executive Council plans alpha-numeric sys tem developed immediately will publicity given development both AMA News Alaskan Mini-Nats AMA Exeuctive Council has approved three-day Mini-Nats Alaska 1981 meet will held Anchorage will first its kind actual dates events schedule have yet finalized lodging/meals package offered anyone interestedyou dont have World Champs competitor take advan tage Price Change Meals 1982 FAI CL Team Selection Hold 1981 Nats article 1981 RC World Cham pionships printed last months CN contained two errors concerning lodging/meals pack age being offered through AMA HQ First package includes six nights lodging five four days meals Second price package $275 $250 However price includes World Champs entry fee official ID/souvenir packet described below plus awards ban quet competitors dont want need total lodging/meals package basic entry fee $65 includes lunches flying site awards banquet plus ID required admission flying site official World Championships souvenir packet includes program book pin patch decal etc lodging/meals package includes ac commodations Sacramentos Red Lion Inn based double occupancy/two beds Other accommodation arrangements room three four room bed stead two will also offered vaying prices Speed Team Race Precision Aero batic teams 1982 World Championships will selected 1981 AMA Nationals Seguin TX decision made AMA President John Grigg order get key facts out potential contestants soon possibleso interested can make immediate plans attend 1981 Nats Team Race Speed will use special FAI team-selection events will held addition regular Nats events Two days flying event currently planned Monday Tuesday August 3-4 Precision Aerobatic team selection will use separate event will part regular AMA Nats event However flying points will countappearance points used FAI event other words AMA rules will used score flights appearance points will de ducted scores team continued page 88 86 Model Aviation -w *************************** have pay difference basic entry fees 81 NATS NEWS Event Fees Want 81 Nats Entry Forms Indoor Nats Outdoor Nats Both Nats request entry forms AMA HQ please sure indicate Nats form want will save headaches HQ will speed processing request Practice Flying Before Nats Want some practice flying Seguin AFB Auxilliary Field before Nats problem Sequin military installation such closed public use Sequin presently home field Tn-City RC Club solely under control weekends government holi days modeling activities avoid problems misunderstandings imperative clubs individuals want ing use Seguin practice flying contact Kelso G Barnett 107 Dagama Drive Univer sal City TX 78148 512 658-5268 will coordinate local club scheduling permission Local club safety flying site rules will apply practice flying present time following model ing activities can accommodated RC Pat tern RC Scale RC Soaring RC Helicopters RC Pylon Racing visitors must supply own equipment Free Flight Kelso will able respond requests available date mapwith direc tions * ** * * * ** * * * * New Mats Entry Event Fees Approved move designed reduce deficits resulting annual Nats operations Ex ecutive Council has approved new schedule fees Nats entry events Outdoor Nats basic Open-age entry fee now $35 Indoor Nats basic entry fee unchanged $20 fees include event entries basic entry fees Juniors Sen iors remain unchanged $5 $10 respec tively includes event entry entrants pay Indoor Nats entry fee attend meet will have pay additional basic entry fee attend Outdoor portion Nats En trants pay Indoor entry fee noshows Indoor Nats events subsequently attend Outdoor Nats will Free Flight event fees remain unchanged $3/eventfor either Indoor Outdoor events Friday June 19 ARRIVAL continued page 88 SCALE TURN-INPICK UP EVENT DEADLINEMODEL AMA9 am5 pm Tuesday PeanutJune 23same day OFFICIAL SCHEDULE 1981 INDOOR NATIONALS Saturday June 20 TEST FLYING Sunday June 21 Cabin 9am 3pm AMA Stick 9am 3pm FAI Stick 3pm to9pm 3 2-hour rounds Monday June22 H LG 9am 2pm FAI Stick 2pm 8pm 3 2-hour rounds Tuesday June23 Pennyplane 8 am 12 pm EZB 12 pm 6 pm Paper Stick 12 pm 6pm AMA Scale 6pm 10pm Peanut Scale 6pm 10pm Late Entry Add Events Schedule must accomplished Northwood Institute no later noon day ** * * * 1991 OUTDOOR NATS SCHEDULE SasdayMoadayToaayWSdWdW ThutwisyFridaySaoadaySunday EnAoe2Ag3Ao44AoeS Aoa6Ag7Aua3A,gS GiSCAA 0AS PayloadFAI FF R*kwWalafleld CoopMolohill dHiner lam4pm GliderHLGA-i Towline A2Totnlnej May changed due toEaotcRocket weather conditiana Nowa P1nn round. CombaSlowSlowSlowJrOpCo F,ula JrOpOp Finals& Srfoul PAl RadeScalePAl TawikaleRatRatSlow Rat OPMourn IOPJnone2 CLSlowRat SpeedFormal 4O flAJet acmnoonA0 Iprpm AAPrloile PreegianJrOpOpOp FinalaJ Walkar Unleaa otherwae notedlAMaSr Fly-Off ball SealPrecisionPrecialon SportSport Nany111Prof lIe 2 3 Notas cotapleted 00 Toaeday Samnoon psn-4 pta lionPyleFlFlP1CMCMCM 1230pmRhidsse 1 pmSamFeat.note4nota4nota4nota4nOta4 noteSnoteB tiajondebtS RCSaalnot 10Fr-Pr SportSport ClamGiant SatellIteHall rote S noteS F Puldcopee L j Fnotee note S amS pmSaarlngnote S INotaa 4 Poor Pattern doe Notice Adnannad Sapert Mamma Halicootar nlaaaea Notice IIntarunadiata Eapert kale 8 Thrae Soaring dada Standard Moditied Standard Unlimited 7 Two Imeter Sailplane Sport-Scale Sailolana 8 1 pm S ow 97 am 2 pta 10 kale pilots meeting Friday Aogoat 79 pm AAANATSI4OBetaSamSamSam-SanI SamSamBeta IContasunt Sosinasal ot 11pm1 5 Pt 5pm May 1981 87 FAI CL Team continued selection program Details such event scheduling will published next month CN Team program entry fees mill $20 Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics team-selection events Only contestants pay fees will eligible team selection Contestants have enter Nats order fly team-se lection events Fees should paid Nuts prior start team-selection event Precision Aerobatics contestant pays team-selection fee will counted Nuts standings will eligible Nuts trophies case Speed Team Race contestants may enter team-selection event regular Nuts event theyve paid Nuts entry event fees both Combat Team Seleetion Separate Combat team selection scheduled Nashville TN September 19-28 1981 detailed tbe April 1981 issue Model Aviation page 83 1982 CL Teem AMA plans snnd Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics Combat teams 1982 World Championships Sweden cost over-ocean transportation New York Stockholm plus cost team-member entry fees include food lodging will also paid AMA sponsorship will apply competi tors team managersa total 17 people three Speed Combat Precision Aerobatics six Team Race two team managers Last year AMA paid approximately $20000 Control Line team com Pete Poland addition funding Indoor Scale teams AMA also pays travel lodging US teams hold two-day prac tice sessions advance Wodd Champion ships liner Hats Contestant LedginulMeals Packages Offered Package Deal AMA HQ has arranged two housing/meal package plans made available contestants families Indoor Nuts sitethe Northwood Institute West Baden IN Only two full pack ages availableno partial deals Confirmed rasernations deadline order contestant make confirmed reserva tion prepaid order must received AMA HQ June 11981 postmark Hous ing requests received after June 1 wilt filled space-available basis Package cost package is/n addition Indoor Nuts entry fee $20 Open-age contestants Plan costs $75/person includes four nights lodging June 19 20 21 22 12 meals starting dinner June 19 ending lunch lane 23 Jhreaktast lunch dinner other days will no banquet regular menu will clude chicken roast beet salisbury steak etc dinner sandwiches salads etc lunch eggs bacon sausage fmits cereals juice breakfast Plan II costs $60/person includes three nights lodging June 20 21 22 9 meals starting dinner June 20 ending lunch June 23 other amenities same Plan Housing Reservations beds rooms cases two beds/room some three four per room available Provisions can made couples families groups housed together and/or adjacent quartersbut must arranged advance firstcome first-served basis Separate quarters will available single unaccompanied fe males request such accommodationsbut shared-room first-come firstserved basis previously described masga Get requests early since about 150 beds available Nats Fees continued Radio Control event fees have creased $1 2/event help cover extra costs providing lodges Congrol Line event fees now $5/event except Precision Aerobatics now $12 increased fee Aerobatics help cover extra cost providing udges Rationale fee increases resulted study noted cost per contestant FF events much less CL RC events study also noted local meets manage operate volunteers weekend event Nuts must offer some compensarion officials typically work average four Joe days Nuts officials must also come out town out state since Nuts loca tion seldom provides enough local officials ** ** * ***** * * FLY SAFELY 1982-83 Conipetftion him Change Cycle 2 Deferred RC Rules Proposals Cross Proposals 1982-83 lutes change cycle full swing CM has reporting progress printing summaries proposed roles results Contest Board voting proposalsin October November December 1980 issues February March 1981 issues issue present two RC proposals Helicopter have nor previoudy published cross-proposals have received AMA HQ up until March 2 1981 cutoff date accepting cross-proposals March 1 postmark may still few mail will published next month Publish ThisP Since rules change system will eventu ally result changes AMA competition rules Academy strives get two-way communication members have interest competition events want inputsl Deadlines order complete rules change cycles get out new rule book schedule hopefully series deadlines has established Various activities must completed certain dates Some daJes have already passed no new rules proposals can accepted Contest hoards have voted proposals accept further study Now season cross-proposalsthose amend original proposals have survived Contest Board Initial Vote next deadlines involve Interim Final votes proposals cross-pro posals Interim vote needed some cases sort out exact language lobe used several similar proposals grouped together proposal its crossproposal meshed deadline May 1981 applies Contest Board activi tiesnot member participation last step will Contest Board Final Voteit must completed Septem ber 11981 results Final Vote will next item really receive substantial coverage CM may occur until December issuewhich reaches read ers last October first Novem ber Two Deferred SC Proposals An additional two rules proposals must added totals last reported March 1981 CM two newcomers allowed system point because have origi nated wirh advisory committees As such treated same passed Initial Vote Contest Board procedures governing rules change cycle printed full Competition News August 1980 issue Model Avi arioe beginning page 90 Rules proposals summarized comments made concerning overall procedures Oc tober November December 1980 March 1981 issues MA Unfortunately two proposals being published too late permit cross-pro posals submitted before March 1 1981 deadline postmark cross-proposal submission However several months time still available submittal modeler comments AMA district Contest Board members pleasel before Final Vote made proposals Contest Board deadline Final Vote September 1 1981 RC Rules Proposals RC-82-80Cbanga time limit camber freestyle maneuvers Eapeet Helicoptee proposes impose limit seven free style maneuvers no limit present change time allowed complete free style maneuvers three minutes four minutes Horace 0 Hagen Red Bunk NJ acting Helicopter Advisory Committee notes thn present rules impose pressures competitor rush maneuvers get done within three minute time limit pressure rush results feels decrease safety concerned event flown competition notes another aspect rushing through maneu ver schedule judges have ade qsaee time write down scores standpoint history event states time wins first written seven years ago Helicopters capable pnrforming maneuvers difficult ones included advance state art Now however todays Helicopters can perform maneuvers pilots attempt gee flight plan Helicopter Advisory Commit tee feels seven maneuvers can safely completed within four minute time limit RC-82-81 Include PAl RC Helicopter IClasa P3CI rules macminer schedule AMA rule bock proposes add newly-adopted FAt RC Helicopter rules maneuver schedule lathe AMA rule hook Horace Hagen acting NC Helicopter Advisory Committee feels FAt rules pattern must made available US fliers can become acquainted hoped would en courage US fliers use domestic contests ultimate result being US fliers would competitive world-class meets Cram-Proposals cross-proposals have submitted AMA HO published two basic reasons First cross-proposal may valid may addressing proposal has defeated Contest Board Initial Vote hence will considered farther rules-change cycle or required three signatures may modeler holding current AMA license may heaves-proposal trying sneak through guise cross-proposal Second may some cross-pro posals whkh still mailnot yet received AMA HQ time article written cutoff date cross-proposal submittal March 1 1981 item written March 2 However valid cross-proposals have received AMA HQ summarized below modeler comment Control Line Cross-Proposals CL-82-20A134ARedefice Carrier bnd ings add new 78-point landing pro poses redefine existing Carrier landings add new intermediate-point 75point landing William L Boss states cross-proposal provides needed clarification what constitutni arrested landing what landing area whether arresting hook must engaging arresting line corss-proposal consists follow ing items Add following landing area clarification en para 12 3012 p 28 landings mast within deck area defined Arresting Area per deck layout diagram page 27 plus five feet beyond last arresting line additional five feel being maximum length arresting line can extended plane during arrested landing provides maximum overall Landing Area 25 feet measured centerline aft end deck Re place paragraphs 301211 301 214 following 1211 100 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook remains engaged arresting line 3-point attitude defined being attitude plane takeoft Le main landing gear tailor nose wheel deck 1212 73 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook engaged arresting line stop forward motion bat subse quent landing arresting line comes disengaged 1213 50 points will awarded landing plane comes rest other 3-point attitude Le plane its nose nose wheel ceck hook may may engaging arresting line 1214 23 points will awarded landing plane comes rest its back wheel off deck hook may may engaging arresting line 1215 other forms landings will scored zero points Bill feels addition 75-point landing should bring final scores closer gether thus improving competition also cross-proposal provides form com promise between extremes two basic proposals regarding need arresting lines engaged planes arresting hook Free Flight Cross-Proposals FP-82-12AEasy B wing chard 3-ic man proposes reduce wing chord Easy B proposed FF-82-1 2 4-in 3-in Thomas Vallee Laurel MD proposes change defined sian Easy B order save FF-82-1 2 Although actu ally prefers 4-in chord originally pro posed feels 3-in still tolerable dimension presently specified 1980-81 Rule Book offers cross-pro posal means help assure passing other portions FF-82-12 PP-82-20A--Permin VTD/ROG Cuos gory ocly proposes limit pro posed return VTO/ROG Outdoor FF Gas Category Harry S Murphy Anderson IN believes 9-sec engine runs too lengthy Category Ill small-field competition would defeat purpose having categories begin addition feels shortened engine runs flyoff situations combined VTO/ROG would add element danger both spectator modeL notes current rules work well Category II Ill 88 Model Aviation CL Endurance Open-elasal Record Holder Lawrence Miller Bishop TX flew Webro 08 diesel-powered original design 1 hr hO mis 12 see Nonember 23 1980
Edition: Model Aviation - 1981/05
Page Numbers: 86, 87, 88
COM PETI TW NE WSLETTENX ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS 815 FIFTEENTH STREET NW WASHINGTON DC 20005 World Champs Turn Selection 1981 NC Aerobatics Team Finals Sfte Selected overwhelming margin 1981 RC Aerobatics team Finals-qualifiers have voted hold Masters Tournament team selection Finals Huntsville AL weekend June 27-28 1981 Rocket City Radio Controllers Inc RCRC will hosts Tournament finalists also voted three operational planseach different entry feethey would accept Once again over whelming majority favored plan whereby RCRC would supply meet person nel including contest director judges entry fee will $50 1981 NC Aerobatics World Champs Date Sfte Changedi unprecedented move organizers 1981 RC Aerobatics World Champion ships have changed date site entry fee prestigious contest site now set Acapulco Mexico altitude 30 ft above sea level city lo cated Pacific west coast Mexico approximately 200 miles south Mexico City date Champs has now moved September 22-2 7 Tuesday through Saturday Entry fee previously proposed $350/contestant has increased $375 Since arrangements completely different ones approved FAIs ClAM last Decembers plenary meet ing will certainly source dis cussion next FAI meeting April Paris However such late date FAI will probably let changes stand could course disapprove possibly leading cancellation Champion shipsan unlikely event Actual site World Championships proposed Pie de Ia Cuesta Military Air Base located approximately 16 Km 10 miles north city Acapulco General News AMA Numbers New Era Coming growth AMA membership has en gendered new problem Running out AMA numbers present AMA numbers limited five digits means highest number can used 99999 theory should present problems until membership reaches fig ure practice trouble has arisen because numbers reserved current holder year after membership has expired usually occurs member does renew membership promptly year easy see membership now approaching 80000 mark doesnt take too late-renewers completely exhaust supply numbers available 1981 NC Soaring World Champ Housing Package Recent Executive Council action see AMA News section approved minutes January 31 1981 Council meeting published sometime future has resulted rescinding reserva tion policy AMA numbers effective March 31 1981 long-term solution problem may adoption alpha-numeric AMA numbers possibly going six-digit number Present direction Executive Council plans alpha-numeric sys tem developed immediately will publicity given development both AMA News Alaskan Mini-Nats AMA Exeuctive Council has approved three-day Mini-Nats Alaska 1981 meet will held Anchorage will first its kind actual dates events schedule have yet finalized lodging/meals package offered anyone interestedyou dont have World Champs competitor take advan tage Price Change Meals 1982 FAI CL Team Selection Hold 1981 Nats article 1981 RC World Cham pionships printed last months CN contained two errors concerning lodging/meals pack age being offered through AMA HQ First package includes six nights lodging five four days meals Second price package $275 $250 However price includes World Champs entry fee official ID/souvenir packet described below plus awards ban quet competitors dont want need total lodging/meals package basic entry fee $65 includes lunches flying site awards banquet plus ID required admission flying site official World Championships souvenir packet includes program book pin patch decal etc lodging/meals package includes ac commodations Sacramentos Red Lion Inn based double occupancy/two beds Other accommodation arrangements room three four room bed stead two will also offered vaying prices Speed Team Race Precision Aero batic teams 1982 World Championships will selected 1981 AMA Nationals Seguin TX decision made AMA President John Grigg order get key facts out potential contestants soon possibleso interested can make immediate plans attend 1981 Nats Team Race Speed will use special FAI team-selection events will held addition regular Nats events Two days flying event currently planned Monday Tuesday August 3-4 Precision Aerobatic team selection will use separate event will part regular AMA Nats event However flying points will countappearance points used FAI event other words AMA rules will used score flights appearance points will de ducted scores team continued page 88 86 Model Aviation -w *************************** have pay difference basic entry fees 81 NATS NEWS Event Fees Want 81 Nats Entry Forms Indoor Nats Outdoor Nats Both Nats request entry forms AMA HQ please sure indicate Nats form want will save headaches HQ will speed processing request Practice Flying Before Nats Want some practice flying Seguin AFB Auxilliary Field before Nats problem Sequin military installation such closed public use Sequin presently home field Tn-City RC Club solely under control weekends government holi days modeling activities avoid problems misunderstandings imperative clubs individuals want ing use Seguin practice flying contact Kelso G Barnett 107 Dagama Drive Univer sal City TX 78148 512 658-5268 will coordinate local club scheduling permission Local club safety flying site rules will apply practice flying present time following model ing activities can accommodated RC Pat tern RC Scale RC Soaring RC Helicopters RC Pylon Racing visitors must supply own equipment Free Flight Kelso will able respond requests available date mapwith direc tions * ** * * * ** * * * * New Mats Entry Event Fees Approved move designed reduce deficits resulting annual Nats operations Ex ecutive Council has approved new schedule fees Nats entry events Outdoor Nats basic Open-age entry fee now $35 Indoor Nats basic entry fee unchanged $20 fees include event entries basic entry fees Juniors Sen iors remain unchanged $5 $10 respec tively includes event entry entrants pay Indoor Nats entry fee attend meet will have pay additional basic entry fee attend Outdoor portion Nats En trants pay Indoor entry fee noshows Indoor Nats events subsequently attend Outdoor Nats will Free Flight event fees remain unchanged $3/eventfor either Indoor Outdoor events Friday June 19 ARRIVAL continued page 88 SCALE TURN-INPICK UP EVENT DEADLINEMODEL AMA9 am5 pm Tuesday PeanutJune 23same day OFFICIAL SCHEDULE 1981 INDOOR NATIONALS Saturday June 20 TEST FLYING Sunday June 21 Cabin 9am 3pm AMA Stick 9am 3pm FAI Stick 3pm to9pm 3 2-hour rounds Monday June22 H LG 9am 2pm FAI Stick 2pm 8pm 3 2-hour rounds Tuesday June23 Pennyplane 8 am 12 pm EZB 12 pm 6 pm Paper Stick 12 pm 6pm AMA Scale 6pm 10pm Peanut Scale 6pm 10pm Late Entry Add Events Schedule must accomplished Northwood Institute no later noon day ** * * * 1991 OUTDOOR NATS SCHEDULE SasdayMoadayToaayWSdWdW ThutwisyFridaySaoadaySunday EnAoe2Ag3Ao44AoeS Aoa6Ag7Aua3A,gS GiSCAA 0AS PayloadFAI FF R*kwWalafleld CoopMolohill dHiner lam4pm GliderHLGA-i Towline A2Totnlnej May changed due toEaotcRocket weather conditiana Nowa P1nn round. CombaSlowSlowSlowJrOpCo F,ula JrOpOp Finals& Srfoul PAl RadeScalePAl TawikaleRatRatSlow Rat OPMourn IOPJnone2 CLSlowRat SpeedFormal 4O flAJet acmnoonA0 Iprpm AAPrloile PreegianJrOpOpOp FinalaJ Walkar Unleaa otherwae notedlAMaSr Fly-Off ball SealPrecisionPrecialon SportSport Nany111Prof lIe 2 3 Notas cotapleted 00 Toaeday Samnoon psn-4 pta lionPyleFlFlP1CMCMCM 1230pmRhidsse 1 pmSamFeat.note4nota4nota4nota4nOta4 noteSnoteB tiajondebtS RCSaalnot 10Fr-Pr SportSport ClamGiant SatellIteHall rote S noteS F Puldcopee L j Fnotee note S amS pmSaarlngnote S INotaa 4 Poor Pattern doe Notice Adnannad Sapert Mamma Halicootar nlaaaea Notice IIntarunadiata Eapert kale 8 Thrae Soaring dada Standard Moditied Standard Unlimited 7 Two Imeter Sailplane Sport-Scale Sailolana 8 1 pm S ow 97 am 2 pta 10 kale pilots meeting Friday Aogoat 79 pm AAANATSI4OBetaSamSamSam-SanI SamSamBeta IContasunt Sosinasal ot 11pm1 5 Pt 5pm May 1981 87 FAI CL Team continued selection program Details such event scheduling will published next month CN Team program entry fees mill $20 Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics team-selection events Only contestants pay fees will eligible team selection Contestants have enter Nats order fly team-se lection events Fees should paid Nuts prior start team-selection event Precision Aerobatics contestant pays team-selection fee will counted Nuts standings will eligible Nuts trophies case Speed Team Race contestants may enter team-selection event regular Nuts event theyve paid Nuts entry event fees both Combat Team Seleetion Separate Combat team selection scheduled Nashville TN September 19-28 1981 detailed tbe April 1981 issue Model Aviation page 83 1982 CL Teem AMA plans snnd Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics Combat teams 1982 World Championships Sweden cost over-ocean transportation New York Stockholm plus cost team-member entry fees include food lodging will also paid AMA sponsorship will apply competi tors team managersa total 17 people three Speed Combat Precision Aerobatics six Team Race two team managers Last year AMA paid approximately $20000 Control Line team com Pete Poland addition funding Indoor Scale teams AMA also pays travel lodging US teams hold two-day prac tice sessions advance Wodd Champion ships liner Hats Contestant LedginulMeals Packages Offered Package Deal AMA HQ has arranged two housing/meal package plans made available contestants families Indoor Nuts sitethe Northwood Institute West Baden IN Only two full pack ages availableno partial deals Confirmed rasernations deadline order contestant make confirmed reserva tion prepaid order must received AMA HQ June 11981 postmark Hous ing requests received after June 1 wilt filled space-available basis Package cost package is/n addition Indoor Nuts entry fee $20 Open-age contestants Plan costs $75/person includes four nights lodging June 19 20 21 22 12 meals starting dinner June 19 ending lunch lane 23 Jhreaktast lunch dinner other days will no banquet regular menu will clude chicken roast beet salisbury steak etc dinner sandwiches salads etc lunch eggs bacon sausage fmits cereals juice breakfast Plan II costs $60/person includes three nights lodging June 20 21 22 9 meals starting dinner June 20 ending lunch June 23 other amenities same Plan Housing Reservations beds rooms cases two beds/room some three four per room available Provisions can made couples families groups housed together and/or adjacent quartersbut must arranged advance firstcome first-served basis Separate quarters will available single unaccompanied fe males request such accommodationsbut shared-room first-come firstserved basis previously described masga Get requests early since about 150 beds available Nats Fees continued Radio Control event fees have creased $1 2/event help cover extra costs providing lodges Congrol Line event fees now $5/event except Precision Aerobatics now $12 increased fee Aerobatics help cover extra cost providing udges Rationale fee increases resulted study noted cost per contestant FF events much less CL RC events study also noted local meets manage operate volunteers weekend event Nuts must offer some compensarion officials typically work average four Joe days Nuts officials must also come out town out state since Nuts loca tion seldom provides enough local officials ** ** * ***** * * FLY SAFELY 1982-83 Conipetftion him Change Cycle 2 Deferred RC Rules Proposals Cross Proposals 1982-83 lutes change cycle full swing CM has reporting progress printing summaries proposed roles results Contest Board voting proposalsin October November December 1980 issues February March 1981 issues issue present two RC proposals Helicopter have nor previoudy published cross-proposals have received AMA HQ up until March 2 1981 cutoff date accepting cross-proposals March 1 postmark may still few mail will published next month Publish ThisP Since rules change system will eventu ally result changes AMA competition rules Academy strives get two-way communication members have interest competition events want inputsl Deadlines order complete rules change cycles get out new rule book schedule hopefully series deadlines has established Various activities must completed certain dates Some daJes have already passed no new rules proposals can accepted Contest hoards have voted proposals accept further study Now season cross-proposalsthose amend original proposals have survived Contest Board Initial Vote next deadlines involve Interim Final votes proposals cross-pro posals Interim vote needed some cases sort out exact language lobe used several similar proposals grouped together proposal its crossproposal meshed deadline May 1981 applies Contest Board activi tiesnot member participation last step will Contest Board Final Voteit must completed Septem ber 11981 results Final Vote will next item really receive substantial coverage CM may occur until December issuewhich reaches read ers last October first Novem ber Two Deferred SC Proposals An additional two rules proposals must added totals last reported March 1981 CM two newcomers allowed system point because have origi nated wirh advisory committees As such treated same passed Initial Vote Contest Board procedures governing rules change cycle printed full Competition News August 1980 issue Model Avi arioe beginning page 90 Rules proposals summarized comments made concerning overall procedures Oc tober November December 1980 March 1981 issues MA Unfortunately two proposals being published too late permit cross-pro posals submitted before March 1 1981 deadline postmark cross-proposal submission However several months time still available submittal modeler comments AMA district Contest Board members pleasel before Final Vote made proposals Contest Board deadline Final Vote September 1 1981 RC Rules Proposals RC-82-80Cbanga time limit camber freestyle maneuvers Eapeet Helicoptee proposes impose limit seven free style maneuvers no limit present change time allowed complete free style maneuvers three minutes four minutes Horace 0 Hagen Red Bunk NJ acting Helicopter Advisory Committee notes thn present rules impose pressures competitor rush maneuvers get done within three minute time limit pressure rush results feels decrease safety concerned event flown competition notes another aspect rushing through maneu ver schedule judges have ade qsaee time write down scores standpoint history event states time wins first written seven years ago Helicopters capable pnrforming maneuvers difficult ones included advance state art Now however todays Helicopters can perform maneuvers pilots attempt gee flight plan Helicopter Advisory Commit tee feels seven maneuvers can safely completed within four minute time limit RC-82-81 Include PAl RC Helicopter IClasa P3CI rules macminer schedule AMA rule bock proposes add newly-adopted FAt RC Helicopter rules maneuver schedule lathe AMA rule hook Horace Hagen acting NC Helicopter Advisory Committee feels FAt rules pattern must made available US fliers can become acquainted hoped would en courage US fliers use domestic contests ultimate result being US fliers would competitive world-class meets Cram-Proposals cross-proposals have submitted AMA HO published two basic reasons First cross-proposal may valid may addressing proposal has defeated Contest Board Initial Vote hence will considered farther rules-change cycle or required three signatures may modeler holding current AMA license may heaves-proposal trying sneak through guise cross-proposal Second may some cross-pro posals whkh still mailnot yet received AMA HQ time article written cutoff date cross-proposal submittal March 1 1981 item written March 2 However valid cross-proposals have received AMA HQ summarized below modeler comment Control Line Cross-Proposals CL-82-20A134ARedefice Carrier bnd ings add new 78-point landing pro poses redefine existing Carrier landings add new intermediate-point 75point landing William L Boss states cross-proposal provides needed clarification what constitutni arrested landing what landing area whether arresting hook must engaging arresting line corss-proposal consists follow ing items Add following landing area clarification en para 12 3012 p 28 landings mast within deck area defined Arresting Area per deck layout diagram page 27 plus five feet beyond last arresting line additional five feel being maximum length arresting line can extended plane during arrested landing provides maximum overall Landing Area 25 feet measured centerline aft end deck Re place paragraphs 301211 301 214 following 1211 100 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook remains engaged arresting line 3-point attitude defined being attitude plane takeoft Le main landing gear tailor nose wheel deck 1212 73 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook engaged arresting line stop forward motion bat subse quent landing arresting line comes disengaged 1213 50 points will awarded landing plane comes rest other 3-point attitude Le plane its nose nose wheel ceck hook may may engaging arresting line 1214 23 points will awarded landing plane comes rest its back wheel off deck hook may may engaging arresting line 1215 other forms landings will scored zero points Bill feels addition 75-point landing should bring final scores closer gether thus improving competition also cross-proposal provides form com promise between extremes two basic proposals regarding need arresting lines engaged planes arresting hook Free Flight Cross-Proposals FP-82-12AEasy B wing chard 3-ic man proposes reduce wing chord Easy B proposed FF-82-1 2 4-in 3-in Thomas Vallee Laurel MD proposes change defined sian Easy B order save FF-82-1 2 Although actu ally prefers 4-in chord originally pro posed feels 3-in still tolerable dimension presently specified 1980-81 Rule Book offers cross-pro posal means help assure passing other portions FF-82-12 PP-82-20A--Permin VTD/ROG Cuos gory ocly proposes limit pro posed return VTO/ROG Outdoor FF Gas Category Harry S Murphy Anderson IN believes 9-sec engine runs too lengthy Category Ill small-field competition would defeat purpose having categories begin addition feels shortened engine runs flyoff situations combined VTO/ROG would add element danger both spectator modeL notes current rules work well Category II Ill 88 Model Aviation CL Endurance Open-elasal Record Holder Lawrence Miller Bishop TX flew Webro 08 diesel-powered original design 1 hr hO mis 12 see Nonember 23 1980
Edition: Model Aviation - 1981/05
Page Numbers: 86, 87, 88
COM PETI TW NE WSLETTENX ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS 815 FIFTEENTH STREET NW WASHINGTON DC 20005 World Champs Turn Selection 1981 NC Aerobatics Team Finals Sfte Selected overwhelming margin 1981 RC Aerobatics team Finals-qualifiers have voted hold Masters Tournament team selection Finals Huntsville AL weekend June 27-28 1981 Rocket City Radio Controllers Inc RCRC will hosts Tournament finalists also voted three operational planseach different entry feethey would accept Once again over whelming majority favored plan whereby RCRC would supply meet person nel including contest director judges entry fee will $50 1981 NC Aerobatics World Champs Date Sfte Changedi unprecedented move organizers 1981 RC Aerobatics World Champion ships have changed date site entry fee prestigious contest site now set Acapulco Mexico altitude 30 ft above sea level city lo cated Pacific west coast Mexico approximately 200 miles south Mexico City date Champs has now moved September 22-2 7 Tuesday through Saturday Entry fee previously proposed $350/contestant has increased $375 Since arrangements completely different ones approved FAIs ClAM last Decembers plenary meet ing will certainly source dis cussion next FAI meeting April Paris However such late date FAI will probably let changes stand could course disapprove possibly leading cancellation Champion shipsan unlikely event Actual site World Championships proposed Pie de Ia Cuesta Military Air Base located approximately 16 Km 10 miles north city Acapulco General News AMA Numbers New Era Coming growth AMA membership has en gendered new problem Running out AMA numbers present AMA numbers limited five digits means highest number can used 99999 theory should present problems until membership reaches fig ure practice trouble has arisen because numbers reserved current holder year after membership has expired usually occurs member does renew membership promptly year easy see membership now approaching 80000 mark doesnt take too late-renewers completely exhaust supply numbers available 1981 NC Soaring World Champ Housing Package Recent Executive Council action see AMA News section approved minutes January 31 1981 Council meeting published sometime future has resulted rescinding reserva tion policy AMA numbers effective March 31 1981 long-term solution problem may adoption alpha-numeric AMA numbers possibly going six-digit number Present direction Executive Council plans alpha-numeric sys tem developed immediately will publicity given development both AMA News Alaskan Mini-Nats AMA Exeuctive Council has approved three-day Mini-Nats Alaska 1981 meet will held Anchorage will first its kind actual dates events schedule have yet finalized lodging/meals package offered anyone interestedyou dont have World Champs competitor take advan tage Price Change Meals 1982 FAI CL Team Selection Hold 1981 Nats article 1981 RC World Cham pionships printed last months CN contained two errors concerning lodging/meals pack age being offered through AMA HQ First package includes six nights lodging five four days meals Second price package $275 $250 However price includes World Champs entry fee official ID/souvenir packet described below plus awards ban quet competitors dont want need total lodging/meals package basic entry fee $65 includes lunches flying site awards banquet plus ID required admission flying site official World Championships souvenir packet includes program book pin patch decal etc lodging/meals package includes ac commodations Sacramentos Red Lion Inn based double occupancy/two beds Other accommodation arrangements room three four room bed stead two will also offered vaying prices Speed Team Race Precision Aero batic teams 1982 World Championships will selected 1981 AMA Nationals Seguin TX decision made AMA President John Grigg order get key facts out potential contestants soon possibleso interested can make immediate plans attend 1981 Nats Team Race Speed will use special FAI team-selection events will held addition regular Nats events Two days flying event currently planned Monday Tuesday August 3-4 Precision Aerobatic team selection will use separate event will part regular AMA Nats event However flying points will countappearance points used FAI event other words AMA rules will used score flights appearance points will de ducted scores team continued page 88 86 Model Aviation -w *************************** have pay difference basic entry fees 81 NATS NEWS Event Fees Want 81 Nats Entry Forms Indoor Nats Outdoor Nats Both Nats request entry forms AMA HQ please sure indicate Nats form want will save headaches HQ will speed processing request Practice Flying Before Nats Want some practice flying Seguin AFB Auxilliary Field before Nats problem Sequin military installation such closed public use Sequin presently home field Tn-City RC Club solely under control weekends government holi days modeling activities avoid problems misunderstandings imperative clubs individuals want ing use Seguin practice flying contact Kelso G Barnett 107 Dagama Drive Univer sal City TX 78148 512 658-5268 will coordinate local club scheduling permission Local club safety flying site rules will apply practice flying present time following model ing activities can accommodated RC Pat tern RC Scale RC Soaring RC Helicopters RC Pylon Racing visitors must supply own equipment Free Flight Kelso will able respond requests available date mapwith direc tions * ** * * * ** * * * * New Mats Entry Event Fees Approved move designed reduce deficits resulting annual Nats operations Ex ecutive Council has approved new schedule fees Nats entry events Outdoor Nats basic Open-age entry fee now $35 Indoor Nats basic entry fee unchanged $20 fees include event entries basic entry fees Juniors Sen iors remain unchanged $5 $10 respec tively includes event entry entrants pay Indoor Nats entry fee attend meet will have pay additional basic entry fee attend Outdoor portion Nats En trants pay Indoor entry fee noshows Indoor Nats events subsequently attend Outdoor Nats will Free Flight event fees remain unchanged $3/eventfor either Indoor Outdoor events Friday June 19 ARRIVAL continued page 88 SCALE TURN-INPICK UP EVENT DEADLINEMODEL AMA9 am5 pm Tuesday PeanutJune 23same day OFFICIAL SCHEDULE 1981 INDOOR NATIONALS Saturday June 20 TEST FLYING Sunday June 21 Cabin 9am 3pm AMA Stick 9am 3pm FAI Stick 3pm to9pm 3 2-hour rounds Monday June22 H LG 9am 2pm FAI Stick 2pm 8pm 3 2-hour rounds Tuesday June23 Pennyplane 8 am 12 pm EZB 12 pm 6 pm Paper Stick 12 pm 6pm AMA Scale 6pm 10pm Peanut Scale 6pm 10pm Late Entry Add Events Schedule must accomplished Northwood Institute no later noon day ** * * * 1991 OUTDOOR NATS SCHEDULE SasdayMoadayToaayWSdWdW ThutwisyFridaySaoadaySunday EnAoe2Ag3Ao44AoeS Aoa6Ag7Aua3A,gS GiSCAA 0AS PayloadFAI FF R*kwWalafleld CoopMolohill dHiner lam4pm GliderHLGA-i Towline A2Totnlnej May changed due toEaotcRocket weather conditiana Nowa P1nn round. 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published next month CN Team program entry fees mill $20 Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics team-selection events Only contestants pay fees will eligible team selection Contestants have enter Nats order fly team-se lection events Fees should paid Nuts prior start team-selection event Precision Aerobatics contestant pays team-selection fee will counted Nuts standings will eligible Nuts trophies case Speed Team Race contestants may enter team-selection event regular Nuts event theyve paid Nuts entry event fees both Combat Team Seleetion Separate Combat team selection scheduled Nashville TN September 19-28 1981 detailed tbe April 1981 issue Model Aviation page 83 1982 CL Teem AMA plans snnd Speed Team Race Precision Aerobatics Combat teams 1982 World Championships Sweden cost over-ocean transportation New York Stockholm plus cost team-member entry fees include food lodging will also paid AMA sponsorship will apply competi tors team managersa total 17 people three Speed Combat Precision Aerobatics six Team Race two team managers Last year AMA paid approximately $20000 Control Line team com Pete Poland addition funding Indoor Scale teams AMA also pays travel lodging US teams hold two-day prac tice sessions advance Wodd Champion ships liner Hats Contestant LedginulMeals Packages Offered Package Deal AMA HQ has arranged two housing/meal package plans made available contestants families Indoor Nuts sitethe Northwood Institute West Baden IN Only two full pack ages availableno partial deals Confirmed rasernations deadline order contestant make confirmed reserva tion prepaid order must received AMA HQ June 11981 postmark Hous ing requests received after June 1 wilt filled space-available basis Package cost package is/n addition Indoor Nuts entry fee $20 Open-age contestants Plan costs $75/person includes four nights lodging June 19 20 21 22 12 meals starting dinner June 19 ending lunch lane 23 Jhreaktast lunch dinner other days will no banquet regular menu will clude chicken roast beet salisbury steak etc dinner sandwiches salads etc lunch eggs bacon sausage fmits cereals juice breakfast Plan II costs $60/person includes three nights lodging June 20 21 22 9 meals starting dinner June 20 ending lunch June 23 other amenities same Plan Housing Reservations beds rooms cases two beds/room some three four per room available Provisions can made couples families groups housed together and/or adjacent quartersbut must arranged advance firstcome first-served basis Separate quarters will available single unaccompanied fe males request such accommodationsbut shared-room first-come firstserved basis previously described masga Get requests early since about 150 beds available Nats Fees continued Radio Control event fees have creased $1 2/event help cover extra costs providing lodges Congrol Line event fees now $5/event except Precision Aerobatics now $12 increased fee Aerobatics help cover extra cost providing udges Rationale fee increases resulted study noted cost per contestant FF events much less CL RC events study also noted local meets manage operate volunteers weekend event Nuts must offer some compensarion officials typically work average four Joe days Nuts officials must also come out town out state since Nuts loca tion seldom provides enough local officials ** ** * ***** * * FLY SAFELY 1982-83 Conipetftion him Change Cycle 2 Deferred RC Rules Proposals Cross Proposals 1982-83 lutes change cycle full swing CM has reporting progress printing summaries proposed roles results Contest Board voting proposalsin October November December 1980 issues February March 1981 issues issue present two RC proposals Helicopter have nor previoudy published cross-proposals have received AMA HQ up until March 2 1981 cutoff date accepting cross-proposals March 1 postmark may still few mail will published next month Publish ThisP Since rules change system will eventu ally result changes AMA competition rules Academy strives get two-way communication members have interest competition events want inputsl Deadlines order complete rules change cycles get out new rule book schedule hopefully series deadlines has established Various activities must completed certain dates Some daJes have already passed no new rules proposals can accepted Contest hoards have voted proposals accept further study Now season cross-proposalsthose amend original proposals have survived Contest Board Initial Vote next deadlines involve Interim Final votes proposals cross-pro posals Interim vote needed some cases sort out exact language lobe used several similar proposals grouped together proposal its crossproposal meshed deadline May 1981 applies Contest Board activi tiesnot member participation last step will Contest Board Final Voteit must completed Septem ber 11981 results Final Vote will next item really receive substantial coverage CM may occur until December issuewhich reaches read ers last October first Novem ber Two Deferred SC Proposals An additional two rules proposals must added totals last reported March 1981 CM two newcomers allowed system point because have origi nated wirh advisory committees As such treated same passed Initial Vote Contest Board procedures governing rules change cycle printed full Competition News August 1980 issue Model Avi arioe beginning page 90 Rules proposals summarized comments made concerning overall procedures Oc tober November December 1980 March 1981 issues MA Unfortunately two proposals being published too late permit cross-pro posals submitted before March 1 1981 deadline postmark cross-proposal submission However several months time still available submittal modeler comments AMA district Contest Board members pleasel before Final Vote made proposals Contest Board deadline Final Vote September 1 1981 RC Rules Proposals RC-82-80Cbanga time limit camber freestyle maneuvers Eapeet Helicoptee proposes impose limit seven free style maneuvers no limit present change time allowed complete free style maneuvers three minutes four minutes Horace 0 Hagen Red Bunk NJ acting Helicopter Advisory Committee notes thn present rules impose pressures competitor rush maneuvers get done within three minute time limit pressure rush results feels decrease safety concerned event flown competition notes another aspect rushing through maneu ver schedule judges have ade qsaee time write down scores standpoint history event states time wins first written seven years ago Helicopters capable pnrforming maneuvers difficult ones included advance state art Now however todays Helicopters can perform maneuvers pilots attempt gee flight plan Helicopter Advisory Commit tee feels seven maneuvers can safely completed within four minute time limit RC-82-81 Include PAl RC Helicopter IClasa P3CI rules macminer schedule AMA rule bock proposes add newly-adopted FAt RC Helicopter rules maneuver schedule lathe AMA rule hook Horace Hagen acting NC Helicopter Advisory Committee feels FAt rules pattern must made available US fliers can become acquainted hoped would en courage US fliers use domestic contests ultimate result being US fliers would competitive world-class meets Cram-Proposals cross-proposals have submitted AMA HO published two basic reasons First cross-proposal may valid may addressing proposal has defeated Contest Board Initial Vote hence will considered farther rules-change cycle or required three signatures may modeler holding current AMA license may heaves-proposal trying sneak through guise cross-proposal Second may some cross-pro posals whkh still mailnot yet received AMA HQ time article written cutoff date cross-proposal submittal March 1 1981 item written March 2 However valid cross-proposals have received AMA HQ summarized below modeler comment Control Line Cross-Proposals CL-82-20A134ARedefice Carrier bnd ings add new 78-point landing pro poses redefine existing Carrier landings add new intermediate-point 75point landing William L Boss states cross-proposal provides needed clarification what constitutni arrested landing what landing area whether arresting hook must engaging arresting line corss-proposal consists follow ing items Add following landing area clarification en para 12 3012 p 28 landings mast within deck area defined Arresting Area per deck layout diagram page 27 plus five feet beyond last arresting line additional five feel being maximum length arresting line can extended plane during arrested landing provides maximum overall Landing Area 25 feet measured centerline aft end deck Re place paragraphs 301211 301 214 following 1211 100 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook remains engaged arresting line 3-point attitude defined being attitude plane takeoft Le main landing gear tailor nose wheel deck 1212 73 points will awarded 3-point attitude landing arresting hook engaged arresting line stop forward motion bat subse quent landing arresting line comes disengaged 1213 50 points will awarded landing plane comes rest other 3-point attitude Le plane its nose nose wheel ceck hook may may engaging arresting line 1214 23 points will awarded landing plane comes rest its back wheel off deck hook may may engaging arresting line 1215 other forms landings will scored zero points Bill feels addition 75-point landing should bring final scores closer gether thus improving competition also cross-proposal provides form com promise between extremes two basic proposals regarding need arresting lines engaged planes arresting hook Free Flight Cross-Proposals FP-82-12AEasy B wing chard 3-ic man proposes reduce wing chord Easy B proposed FF-82-1 2 4-in 3-in Thomas Vallee Laurel MD proposes change defined sian Easy B order save FF-82-1 2 Although actu ally prefers 4-in chord originally pro posed feels 3-in still tolerable dimension presently specified 1980-81 Rule Book offers cross-pro posal means help assure passing other portions FF-82-12 PP-82-20A--Permin VTD/ROG Cuos gory ocly proposes limit pro posed return VTO/ROG Outdoor FF Gas Category Harry S Murphy Anderson IN believes 9-sec engine runs too lengthy Category Ill small-field competition would defeat purpose having categories begin addition feels shortened engine runs flyoff situations combined VTO/ROG would add element danger both spectator modeL notes current rules work well Category II Ill 88 Model Aviation CL Endurance Open-elasal Record Holder Lawrence Miller Bishop TX flew Webro 08 diesel-powered original design 1 hr hO mis 12 see Nonember 23 1980