Contml Line Navy Carrier Dick Perry CONGRATULATIONS Allan Webman Jr selected among correctly identifying Boeing XF7B-l Mystery Airplane July issue carrier aircraft September issue rather obscure single example produced Navy 1933 assigned Bureau No 9377 As readers have noted aircraft similar YA-lO tested Army minor differences especially compared Armys A-12 pro duction variant externally-braced wings could folded storage 44-foot wingspan bigger biplanes period thus causing problem carrier operations Unlike its Shrike counterpart Army Curdas XS2C-1 did reach operational status passed obscurity Noise abatement originally intend ed write about equipment being used set records weve since old records retired December 31 1983 information will have wait however because issue consider impor tant future event com petition flying general invite refer John Griggs Presidents Corner page 97 August 1984 MA column John writes Executive Councils tent adopt noise abatement plan 1985 implementation 1986 have opportunity read Paul Smiths comments idea contests specialty newsletters such HiLow-Landing share Pauls concern am sure about poten tial impact noise-abatement plan competition flying know today disagree Paul however reac tion John Griggs announcement interests competition fliers sport fliers well can best served avoiding inflammatory comments hastily-drawn conclusions instead approaching problem spirit cooperation seeking educate others views well educated others Johns announcement statement intent expression ideas presented AMA Executive Council Ed Izzo result Noise Committees work shared least time majority Executive Council key point Council has taken no action establish planor set dates adopting such plan John unfortunately did clearly state fact comments nor did actively request participation AMA membership helping Noise Commit tee ultimately Executive Coun cil determine just what plan should Executive Council needsand wantsto know thoughts con cerns about noise abatement need participate calmly rationally dialogue develop best possible plan concerned Just make sure same wavelength remember AMA Executive Council composed 11 AMA District Vice-Presidents AMA President AMA Executive Vice-Presi dent AMA Executive Director 70 Model Aviation people 1 R Eugene Daniels Dick Perry Cam Martin Theyre discuasing Genes 1 5-Class MO-i plane Cox Conquest Perry carb provides power Continued page 167 Some Carrier models contestants officials Norfolk Rainmaker last May photos month SH Ringo Dick Perrys Kingfisher Profile April 1984 MAplan No 437 during slow flight Nor folk meet strong taliwind over deck note streamers cut down number successful landings Telephoto lens camera makes models stabilizer look huge se higher aspect ratio lesser ngle attack required given mount lift developed huge flaps other hand Luce large negative pitching moments ipposition elevators efforts turn plane given direction net esult airplane very soft unre ponsive controls around neutral intil tail overcomes negative pitch ng moment flap point ving almost immediately produces enor nous amounts lift thus producing nstant corner ps immediately ipon control neutralization ariables come together result pectacularly-flying machine However hrow some squirrely winds less-than erfect engine run just few late mar mis influencing timing ecomes impossible finesse almost pectacular flight Once started corner s committed its finish airplanes sre good argument moderation Stunt design Just cause little good loesnt mean lot will Camelot above remarks apply mostly Lous Rampage see picture vhich flew several complete patterns Windys airplane flew ime found impossible fly reason see column following next nonths Nats issue discussion nan/machine interface nt omputer age Hows teaser So what did learn Pro Stunt 4-hour visit just through aappy marriage talent propinquity group Stunt fliers has become Ireater sum its parts Any number talented people have given skills improvement members result current hot spot American Stunt legacy hampions such Bob Lampione Jim Kostecky Billy Simons Bobby Hunt Gene Schaeffer best Stunter Ive ever seen never won Nats Add rurrent crop like Casale Urtnowkski Meador Dudka up-and-corners Like Parski Karen Meador Doug Mary Figgs Marty Cwikala bet future stardom just name tip tongue just no place like New Joisey flyin Stunt Construction hint biggest obstacles accurate construction tight precise glue joints improper ap plication sandpaper balsa wood Too often part shaped picked up hand shaping medium other attempt made rub against other hands precision milling tools Often result similar shortening legs table eyeball. odatall muchpreferable system illustrated pic ture start column very large sanding board about three feet four inches grooved side ac cept another board similar dimension shown two pieces screwed together sits centrallylocated groove 900 angle Sandpaper attached both sides vertical member rubber cement also shown what appears bottom horizontal member simple tool thus made clamped firmly workbench piece shaped applied both hands tool Ninety-degree angles flat surfaces come automatically easily paper bottom can used normal sanding-block fashion tapering ribs wing vertical member can clamped vise paper used instance sand entire joint surface fuselage box prior taching top bottom blocks Once tool clamped bench will find almost never ac tually pick up piece sandpaper Try youll like Ted Fancher 1S8 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Navy CarrierlPerry Continued page 70 What follows some thoughts noise modeling Competition fliers minority AMA membership competition fly ing actual sanctioned contests very small portion total modeling activi ty United States Competition fly ing however primary driver research development reason have high-quality engines radios other advanced equipment enjoy today best way encourage manu facturers develop quieter highperformance equipment create de mand among competition fliers De mand has resulted muffled tunedpipe development RC Pattern CL Precision Aerobatics moved muffled engines voluntarily earlier Developing producing new engines takes time money short-notice often ill-conceived rules changes have alienated manufacturers past fear mandating noise standards competition less year after estab lishing standards suggested Johns comments would extremely detrimental Equipment cannot devel oped tested produced fast Remaining competitive would require continual update equipment improvements became available much better alternative mandatory competition noise standards 1986 would promote development peri od during noise reduction measures would allowed delay mandatory enforcement until least 1988 pre ferably 1990 later emphasized word allowed because events CL Speed Carrier Racing FF Power RC Pylon have rules restrict use mufflers tuned pipes must 861 ls,m RoadSan Ant,nio IX 78216 512341-6712 FUTABA 7FGK FM W/4 5-12320995 7FGK W/4 52818495 6F6W/4 S-2815495 4FGW/4 S-2814395 4LW/3 5-2810495 S-28 SERVO1895 PLANES Great Planes 1606195 Great Planes Cap2t 406195 Goldberg Sr Falcon5095 Goldberg Eagle 633795 Craig Air Drifter II1795 Craft Air Piece OCake1798 EPOXY GLUE Descon 30 Minute 9 Ounce595 Descon 5 Minute 9 Ounce595 Hobbyposy 118 Ounce359 Hobbypos IV 8 Ounce559 Rebel R/ 30 Minute 9 Ounce575 TOP FlIGHT Monokote Opaque Roll545 Monokote Trana Roll595 Monokote Met Roll695 Heat Gun1995 Heat Iron1395 CYANOACRYLATE Hot Stuff HS1 e149 Hot Stuff HST-l e149 Hot Stuff HS4 2 Ounce499 Hot Stuff 1151-4 2 Ounce499 Hot Shot245 Jet Ounce159 Super Jet Ounce159 Jet 2 Ounce 25 Super Jet 2 Ounce 25 PIEASE NOTE Prices subject change manufacturers prices change items subject t, asaitahitit time sale Prices effect until nest M,del Asiation Issue Shos room prices may sllfbtty higher isit loir sb,s room o bile San Antonio 1011 discount price list refunded ,n Cirst order Shipping & Handling Prepaid orders 531111 gOt Credit Card orders $595 Iserseas orlers add estimated shipping 25o deposit required first time 41 55 sales tas required [esas residents Personal checks delas shipping 15 dass November1984 167 Ole Reliable 1938 Old TimerDoc Mathews 19.35 Engine Econo-Kit $5495 Deluxe-Kit $6495 Shipping Machine cut spruce & balsa Illustrated instructions mnLlneNOTE KANSAS RESIDfNTS ADO 455 SALES TAX F RO Box 2392 Shawnee Mission Kansas 66201 have noise regulations competition fly ing would prefer set standards drop exhaust restrictions now exist allow competitors manufacturers develop competitive low-noise systems over course few years way existing equipment would made im mediately obsolete gradual transi tion could occur might happen voluntarily standards themselves deserve con siderable attention Noise-level standards FAI RC Pattern seem to extremely difficult enforce accurately great deal expense ac curacy essential regulating per formance events What individual would need access soundlevel-measuring equipment would need accurately calibrated much easily enforced standard would similar exists FAI RC Pylon exhaust sys tem must have expansion chamber least certain volume outlet no specified area should reduce engine noise will nothing reduce noise propeller data produced AMA Noise Committee published page 118 July 1983 MA points propeller noise major contributor total noise ompetition model would almost impossible meet FAI Pattern noise restrictions 100 dB meter existing performance-event model Speed Carrier Racing Combat IT Power RC Pylon complete change equipment Mandated revolutionary change con trary AMAs own guidelines com petition rules acceptance would resisted modelers Evolutionary change however has accepted pattern years competition flying Once again noise level standards unless much less restrictive FAI Pattern standard seem accept able alternative equipment specifi cations could tolerated gradual transition allowed Finally plan reduce noise modeling should include following concepts 1 It should actively involve manufac turers 2 It should apply equally sport competition flying 3 It should follow procedures schedules AMA Contest Board regulations will affect competi tion flying 4 It should include campaign get noise regulations FAT events cannot enforce US noise rules FAI events country remain com petitive world competition 5 It should address concerns AMA membership its highest priority last point important opinion participate process cannot complain about results Write talk Ed Izzo District VP own VP let know what think Richard L Perry 7578 Vogels Way Springfield VA 22153 CL CombatlJohnson Continued page 71 streamer string foam leading edge wing RMcM Ed Brzys some very Europeanlooking models radially-mounted engines looked like fat Dog Fight ers did job Ed looked spectacular matches Saturday opponents tail almost whole match just no shaking him mellowed bit Sunday matches will remem bered some best ever flown As often happens important contests usual fuel discarded favor some nasty medicine result power part flightbut often blown engine meltdown Chuck Rud ner go meltdown route limped around making strange pops bangs usually means theres hole pistonbut case just little sunken Chuck told uses depth micrometer determine just far down top piston has caved standard 168 Model Aviation /%1131 NW 45 Street Ft Lauderdale Ft 33309 13051 491-6115 ENGINEERING THE LANDING SEAR PEOPLE Tired 1 kit landing gears dent fIt yeur biggie property O & 0 Engiueenag can seine year problems * Custom built te yoer needs & specs guaranteed te tit * Strong & durable withstand teogheot landing * 0 & 0 Eugineering gear will work & keep veer biggie ttyiug * In utuck replacement gear ter west popular models Byrne PIth Chaisten Eagle CAP 21 Balsa USA J-3 CUR Air Tuch Puwnee Eagle Nesee Rig Slick Chump Citabrla R & R models Snapper Stinger nsd Snapper Too use piston 003 less crunch anything approaching 005 living borrowed time engine may hole piston after run though hac less 003 depression general guide arrived after checking engines Obviously its worth losing match Bladder Grabber Nationals because bad piston best solution replace offending piston although expensive time-consuming refit new Did ever wonder got such weird name contest Bladder Grabber Dan Rutherford years Grabber asked him arrived such name answer sound ed like something out comparative literature classes means whatever want thought about during 1500-mile drive home supposed grab bladder plane blad der because excitement finally did come up real meaning youll hkve come Bladder Grab ber X find out already scheduled same site Boeing Space Center July6 7 1985 saw some cheap unbreakable needle valves Gene Papes engines Theyre made out 4-40 bolts just stick 4-40 cap screw something turns fast like drill grind threads off shape end like very blunt needle Combat engines needle over very narrow range dont want make lot taper part nee dle usually threads tapped out 4-40 too Leave off locking collet tap Itll little sloppy un til lock down Just about anything can soldered end can turn Gears old slot-racing cars work great ends off K&B needle assemblies type needle would work great cowled airplane could use socket-head bolt just use Allen wrench adjust biggest ad vantage whole thing besides being cheap hard break can make taper want Maybe set up lathe other precision tool could make thatd give cou Continued page 170 IFLito LAVUO c F -CRfl0flIn wInuoran 00 COMPLETE KIT LESS WHEELS EOSIOE poopINTRODUCTORY PRICE 6-30-84] $9800 SHIP
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/11
Page Numbers: 70, 167, 168
Contml Line Navy Carrier Dick Perry CONGRATULATIONS Allan Webman Jr selected among correctly identifying Boeing XF7B-l Mystery Airplane July issue carrier aircraft September issue rather obscure single example produced Navy 1933 assigned Bureau No 9377 As readers have noted aircraft similar YA-lO tested Army minor differences especially compared Armys A-12 pro duction variant externally-braced wings could folded storage 44-foot wingspan bigger biplanes period thus causing problem carrier operations Unlike its Shrike counterpart Army Curdas XS2C-1 did reach operational status passed obscurity Noise abatement originally intend ed write about equipment being used set records weve since old records retired December 31 1983 information will have wait however because issue consider impor tant future event com petition flying general invite refer John Griggs Presidents Corner page 97 August 1984 MA column John writes Executive Councils tent adopt noise abatement plan 1985 implementation 1986 have opportunity read Paul Smiths comments idea contests specialty newsletters such HiLow-Landing share Pauls concern am sure about poten tial impact noise-abatement plan competition flying know today disagree Paul however reac tion John Griggs announcement interests competition fliers sport fliers well can best served avoiding inflammatory comments hastily-drawn conclusions instead approaching problem spirit cooperation seeking educate others views well educated others Johns announcement statement intent expression ideas presented AMA Executive Council Ed Izzo result Noise Committees work shared least time majority Executive Council key point Council has taken no action establish planor set dates adopting such plan John unfortunately did clearly state fact comments nor did actively request participation AMA membership helping Noise Commit tee ultimately Executive Coun cil determine just what plan should Executive Council needsand wantsto know thoughts con cerns about noise abatement need participate calmly rationally dialogue develop best possible plan concerned Just make sure same wavelength remember AMA Executive Council composed 11 AMA District Vice-Presidents AMA President AMA Executive Vice-Presi dent AMA Executive Director 70 Model Aviation people 1 R Eugene Daniels Dick Perry Cam Martin Theyre discuasing Genes 1 5-Class MO-i plane Cox Conquest Perry carb provides power Continued page 167 Some Carrier models contestants officials Norfolk Rainmaker last May photos month SH Ringo Dick Perrys Kingfisher Profile April 1984 MAplan No 437 during slow flight Nor folk meet strong taliwind over deck note streamers cut down number successful landings Telephoto lens camera makes models stabilizer look huge se higher aspect ratio lesser ngle attack required given mount lift developed huge flaps other hand Luce large negative pitching moments ipposition elevators efforts turn plane given direction net esult airplane very soft unre ponsive controls around neutral intil tail overcomes negative pitch ng moment flap point ving almost immediately produces enor nous amounts lift thus producing nstant corner ps immediately ipon control neutralization ariables come together result pectacularly-flying machine However hrow some squirrely winds less-than erfect engine run just few late mar mis influencing timing ecomes impossible finesse almost pectacular flight Once started corner s committed its finish airplanes sre good argument moderation Stunt design Just cause little good loesnt mean lot will Camelot above remarks apply mostly Lous Rampage see picture vhich flew several complete patterns Windys airplane flew ime found impossible fly reason see column following next nonths Nats issue discussion nan/machine interface nt omputer age Hows teaser So what did learn Pro Stunt 4-hour visit just through aappy marriage talent propinquity group Stunt fliers has become Ireater sum its parts Any number talented people have given skills improvement members result current hot spot American Stunt legacy hampions such Bob Lampione Jim Kostecky Billy Simons Bobby Hunt Gene Schaeffer best Stunter Ive ever seen never won Nats Add rurrent crop like Casale Urtnowkski Meador Dudka up-and-corners Like Parski Karen Meador Doug Mary Figgs Marty Cwikala bet future stardom just name tip tongue just no place like New Joisey flyin Stunt Construction hint biggest obstacles accurate construction tight precise glue joints improper ap plication sandpaper balsa wood Too often part shaped picked up hand shaping medium other attempt made rub against other hands precision milling tools Often result similar shortening legs table eyeball. odatall muchpreferable system illustrated pic ture start column very large sanding board about three feet four inches grooved side ac cept another board similar dimension shown two pieces screwed together sits centrallylocated groove 900 angle Sandpaper attached both sides vertical member rubber cement also shown what appears bottom horizontal member simple tool thus made clamped firmly workbench piece shaped applied both hands tool Ninety-degree angles flat surfaces come automatically easily paper bottom can used normal sanding-block fashion tapering ribs wing vertical member can clamped vise paper used instance sand entire joint surface fuselage box prior taching top bottom blocks Once tool clamped bench will find almost never ac tually pick up piece sandpaper Try youll like Ted Fancher 1S8 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Navy CarrierlPerry Continued page 70 What follows some thoughts noise modeling Competition fliers minority AMA membership competition fly ing actual sanctioned contests very small portion total modeling activi ty United States Competition fly ing however primary driver research development reason have high-quality engines radios other advanced equipment enjoy today best way encourage manu facturers develop quieter highperformance equipment create de mand among competition fliers De mand has resulted muffled tunedpipe development RC Pattern CL Precision Aerobatics moved muffled engines voluntarily earlier Developing producing new engines takes time money short-notice often ill-conceived rules changes have alienated manufacturers past fear mandating noise standards competition less year after estab lishing standards suggested Johns comments would extremely detrimental Equipment cannot devel oped tested produced fast Remaining competitive would require continual update equipment improvements became available much better alternative mandatory competition noise standards 1986 would promote development peri od during noise reduction measures would allowed delay mandatory enforcement until least 1988 pre ferably 1990 later emphasized word allowed because events CL Speed Carrier Racing FF Power RC Pylon have rules restrict use mufflers tuned pipes must 861 ls,m RoadSan Ant,nio IX 78216 512341-6712 FUTABA 7FGK FM W/4 5-12320995 7FGK W/4 52818495 6F6W/4 S-2815495 4FGW/4 S-2814395 4LW/3 5-2810495 S-28 SERVO1895 PLANES Great Planes 1606195 Great Planes Cap2t 406195 Goldberg Sr Falcon5095 Goldberg Eagle 633795 Craig Air Drifter II1795 Craft Air Piece OCake1798 EPOXY GLUE Descon 30 Minute 9 Ounce595 Descon 5 Minute 9 Ounce595 Hobbyposy 118 Ounce359 Hobbypos IV 8 Ounce559 Rebel R/ 30 Minute 9 Ounce575 TOP FlIGHT Monokote Opaque Roll545 Monokote Trana Roll595 Monokote Met Roll695 Heat Gun1995 Heat Iron1395 CYANOACRYLATE Hot Stuff HS1 e149 Hot Stuff HST-l e149 Hot Stuff HS4 2 Ounce499 Hot Stuff 1151-4 2 Ounce499 Hot Shot245 Jet Ounce159 Super Jet Ounce159 Jet 2 Ounce 25 Super Jet 2 Ounce 25 PIEASE NOTE Prices subject change manufacturers prices change items subject t, asaitahitit time sale Prices effect until nest M,del Asiation Issue Shos room prices may sllfbtty higher isit loir sb,s room o bile San Antonio 1011 discount price list refunded ,n Cirst order Shipping & Handling Prepaid orders 531111 gOt Credit Card orders $595 Iserseas orlers add estimated shipping 25o deposit required first time 41 55 sales tas required [esas residents Personal checks delas shipping 15 dass November1984 167 Ole Reliable 1938 Old TimerDoc Mathews 19.35 Engine Econo-Kit $5495 Deluxe-Kit $6495 Shipping Machine cut spruce & balsa Illustrated instructions mnLlneNOTE KANSAS RESIDfNTS ADO 455 SALES TAX F RO Box 2392 Shawnee Mission Kansas 66201 have noise regulations competition fly ing would prefer set standards drop exhaust restrictions now exist allow competitors manufacturers develop competitive low-noise systems over course few years way existing equipment would made im mediately obsolete gradual transi tion could occur might happen voluntarily standards themselves deserve con siderable attention Noise-level standards FAI RC Pattern seem to extremely difficult enforce accurately great deal expense ac curacy essential regulating per formance events What individual would need access soundlevel-measuring equipment would need accurately calibrated much easily enforced standard would similar exists FAI RC Pylon exhaust sys tem must have expansion chamber least certain volume outlet no specified area should reduce engine noise will nothing reduce noise propeller data produced AMA Noise Committee published page 118 July 1983 MA points propeller noise major contributor total noise ompetition model would almost impossible meet FAI Pattern noise restrictions 100 dB meter existing performance-event model Speed Carrier Racing Combat IT Power RC Pylon complete change equipment Mandated revolutionary change con trary AMAs own guidelines com petition rules acceptance would resisted modelers Evolutionary change however has accepted pattern years competition flying Once again noise level standards unless much less restrictive FAI Pattern standard seem accept able alternative equipment specifi cations could tolerated gradual transition allowed Finally plan reduce noise modeling should include following concepts 1 It should actively involve manufac turers 2 It should apply equally sport competition flying 3 It should follow procedures schedules AMA Contest Board regulations will affect competi tion flying 4 It should include campaign get noise regulations FAT events cannot enforce US noise rules FAI events country remain com petitive world competition 5 It should address concerns AMA membership its highest priority last point important opinion participate process cannot complain about results Write talk Ed Izzo District VP own VP let know what think Richard L Perry 7578 Vogels Way Springfield VA 22153 CL CombatlJohnson Continued page 71 streamer string foam leading edge wing RMcM Ed Brzys some very Europeanlooking models radially-mounted engines looked like fat Dog Fight ers did job Ed looked spectacular matches Saturday opponents tail almost whole match just no shaking him mellowed bit Sunday matches will remem bered some best ever flown As often happens important contests usual fuel discarded favor some nasty medicine result power part flightbut often blown engine meltdown Chuck Rud ner go meltdown route limped around making strange pops bangs usually means theres hole pistonbut case just little sunken Chuck told uses depth micrometer determine just far down top piston has caved standard 168 Model Aviation /%1131 NW 45 Street Ft Lauderdale Ft 33309 13051 491-6115 ENGINEERING THE LANDING SEAR PEOPLE Tired 1 kit landing gears dent fIt yeur biggie property O & 0 Engiueenag can seine year problems * Custom built te yoer needs & specs guaranteed te tit * Strong & durable withstand teogheot landing * 0 & 0 Eugineering gear will work & keep veer biggie ttyiug * In utuck replacement gear ter west popular models Byrne PIth Chaisten Eagle CAP 21 Balsa USA J-3 CUR Air Tuch Puwnee Eagle Nesee Rig Slick Chump Citabrla R & R models Snapper Stinger nsd Snapper Too use piston 003 less crunch anything approaching 005 living borrowed time engine may hole piston after run though hac less 003 depression general guide arrived after checking engines Obviously its worth losing match Bladder Grabber Nationals because bad piston best solution replace offending piston although expensive time-consuming refit new Did ever wonder got such weird name contest Bladder Grabber Dan Rutherford years Grabber asked him arrived such name answer sound ed like something out comparative literature classes means whatever want thought about during 1500-mile drive home supposed grab bladder plane blad der because excitement finally did come up real meaning youll hkve come Bladder Grab ber X find out already scheduled same site Boeing Space Center July6 7 1985 saw some cheap unbreakable needle valves Gene Papes engines Theyre made out 4-40 bolts just stick 4-40 cap screw something turns fast like drill grind threads off shape end like very blunt needle Combat engines needle over very narrow range dont want make lot taper part nee dle usually threads tapped out 4-40 too Leave off locking collet tap Itll little sloppy un til lock down Just about anything can soldered end can turn Gears old slot-racing cars work great ends off K&B needle assemblies type needle would work great cowled airplane could use socket-head bolt just use Allen wrench adjust biggest ad vantage whole thing besides being cheap hard break can make taper want Maybe set up lathe other precision tool could make thatd give cou Continued page 170 IFLito LAVUO c F -CRfl0flIn wInuoran 00 COMPLETE KIT LESS WHEELS EOSIOE poopINTRODUCTORY PRICE 6-30-84] $9800 SHIP
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/11
Page Numbers: 70, 167, 168
Contml Line Navy Carrier Dick Perry CONGRATULATIONS Allan Webman Jr selected among correctly identifying Boeing XF7B-l Mystery Airplane July issue carrier aircraft September issue rather obscure single example produced Navy 1933 assigned Bureau No 9377 As readers have noted aircraft similar YA-lO tested Army minor differences especially compared Armys A-12 pro duction variant externally-braced wings could folded storage 44-foot wingspan bigger biplanes period thus causing problem carrier operations Unlike its Shrike counterpart Army Curdas XS2C-1 did reach operational status passed obscurity Noise abatement originally intend ed write about equipment being used set records weve since old records retired December 31 1983 information will have wait however because issue consider impor tant future event com petition flying general invite refer John Griggs Presidents Corner page 97 August 1984 MA column John writes Executive Councils tent adopt noise abatement plan 1985 implementation 1986 have opportunity read Paul Smiths comments idea contests specialty newsletters such HiLow-Landing share Pauls concern am sure about poten tial impact noise-abatement plan competition flying know today disagree Paul however reac tion John Griggs announcement interests competition fliers sport fliers well can best served avoiding inflammatory comments hastily-drawn conclusions instead approaching problem spirit cooperation seeking educate others views well educated others Johns announcement statement intent expression ideas presented AMA Executive Council Ed Izzo result Noise Committees work shared least time majority Executive Council key point Council has taken no action establish planor set dates adopting such plan John unfortunately did clearly state fact comments nor did actively request participation AMA membership helping Noise Commit tee ultimately Executive Coun cil determine just what plan should Executive Council needsand wantsto know thoughts con cerns about noise abatement need participate calmly rationally dialogue develop best possible plan concerned Just make sure same wavelength remember AMA Executive Council composed 11 AMA District Vice-Presidents AMA President AMA Executive Vice-Presi dent AMA Executive Director 70 Model Aviation people 1 R Eugene Daniels Dick Perry Cam Martin Theyre discuasing Genes 1 5-Class MO-i plane Cox Conquest Perry carb provides power Continued page 167 Some Carrier models contestants officials Norfolk Rainmaker last May photos month SH Ringo Dick Perrys Kingfisher Profile April 1984 MAplan No 437 during slow flight Nor folk meet strong taliwind over deck note streamers cut down number successful landings Telephoto lens camera makes models stabilizer look huge se higher aspect ratio lesser ngle attack required given mount lift developed huge flaps other hand Luce large negative pitching moments ipposition elevators efforts turn plane given direction net esult airplane very soft unre ponsive controls around neutral intil tail overcomes negative pitch ng moment flap point ving almost immediately produces enor nous amounts lift thus producing nstant corner ps immediately ipon control neutralization ariables come together result pectacularly-flying machine However hrow some squirrely winds less-than erfect engine run just few late mar mis influencing timing ecomes impossible finesse almost pectacular flight Once started corner s committed its finish airplanes sre good argument moderation Stunt design Just cause little good loesnt mean lot will Camelot above remarks apply mostly Lous Rampage see picture vhich flew several complete patterns Windys airplane flew ime found impossible fly reason see column following next nonths Nats issue discussion nan/machine interface nt omputer age Hows teaser So what did learn Pro Stunt 4-hour visit just through aappy marriage talent propinquity group Stunt fliers has become Ireater sum its parts Any number talented people have given skills improvement members result current hot spot American Stunt legacy hampions such Bob Lampione Jim Kostecky Billy Simons Bobby Hunt Gene Schaeffer best Stunter Ive ever seen never won Nats Add rurrent crop like Casale Urtnowkski Meador Dudka up-and-corners Like Parski Karen Meador Doug Mary Figgs Marty Cwikala bet future stardom just name tip tongue just no place like New Joisey flyin Stunt Construction hint biggest obstacles accurate construction tight precise glue joints improper ap plication sandpaper balsa wood Too often part shaped picked up hand shaping medium other attempt made rub against other hands precision milling tools Often result similar shortening legs table eyeball. odatall muchpreferable system illustrated pic ture start column very large sanding board about three feet four inches grooved side ac cept another board similar dimension shown two pieces screwed together sits centrallylocated groove 900 angle Sandpaper attached both sides vertical member rubber cement also shown what appears bottom horizontal member simple tool thus made clamped firmly workbench piece shaped applied both hands tool Ninety-degree angles flat surfaces come automatically easily paper bottom can used normal sanding-block fashion tapering ribs wing vertical member can clamped vise paper used instance sand entire joint surface fuselage box prior taching top bottom blocks Once tool clamped bench will find almost never ac tually pick up piece sandpaper Try youll like Ted Fancher 1S8 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Navy CarrierlPerry Continued page 70 What follows some thoughts noise modeling Competition fliers minority AMA membership competition fly ing actual sanctioned contests very small portion total modeling activi ty United States Competition fly ing however primary driver research development reason have high-quality engines radios other advanced equipment enjoy today best way encourage manu facturers develop quieter highperformance equipment create de mand among competition fliers De mand has resulted muffled tunedpipe development RC Pattern CL Precision Aerobatics moved muffled engines voluntarily earlier Developing producing new engines takes time money short-notice often ill-conceived rules changes have alienated manufacturers past fear mandating noise standards competition less year after estab lishing standards suggested Johns comments would extremely detrimental Equipment cannot devel oped tested produced fast Remaining competitive would require continual update equipment improvements became available much better alternative mandatory competition noise standards 1986 would promote development peri od during noise reduction measures would allowed delay mandatory enforcement until least 1988 pre ferably 1990 later emphasized word allowed because events CL Speed Carrier Racing FF Power RC Pylon have rules restrict use mufflers tuned pipes must 861 ls,m RoadSan Ant,nio IX 78216 512341-6712 FUTABA 7FGK FM W/4 5-12320995 7FGK W/4 52818495 6F6W/4 S-2815495 4FGW/4 S-2814395 4LW/3 5-2810495 S-28 SERVO1895 PLANES Great Planes 1606195 Great Planes Cap2t 406195 Goldberg Sr Falcon5095 Goldberg Eagle 633795 Craig Air Drifter II1795 Craft Air Piece OCake1798 EPOXY GLUE Descon 30 Minute 9 Ounce595 Descon 5 Minute 9 Ounce595 Hobbyposy 118 Ounce359 Hobbypos IV 8 Ounce559 Rebel R/ 30 Minute 9 Ounce575 TOP FlIGHT Monokote Opaque Roll545 Monokote Trana Roll595 Monokote Met Roll695 Heat Gun1995 Heat Iron1395 CYANOACRYLATE Hot Stuff HS1 e149 Hot Stuff HST-l e149 Hot Stuff HS4 2 Ounce499 Hot Stuff 1151-4 2 Ounce499 Hot Shot245 Jet Ounce159 Super Jet Ounce159 Jet 2 Ounce 25 Super Jet 2 Ounce 25 PIEASE NOTE Prices subject change manufacturers prices change items subject t, asaitahitit time sale Prices effect until nest M,del Asiation Issue Shos room prices may sllfbtty higher isit loir sb,s room o bile San Antonio 1011 discount price list refunded ,n Cirst order Shipping & Handling Prepaid orders 531111 gOt Credit Card orders $595 Iserseas orlers add estimated shipping 25o deposit required first time 41 55 sales tas required [esas residents Personal checks delas shipping 15 dass November1984 167 Ole Reliable 1938 Old TimerDoc Mathews 19.35 Engine Econo-Kit $5495 Deluxe-Kit $6495 Shipping Machine cut spruce & balsa Illustrated instructions mnLlneNOTE KANSAS RESIDfNTS ADO 455 SALES TAX F RO Box 2392 Shawnee Mission Kansas 66201 have noise regulations competition fly ing would prefer set standards drop exhaust restrictions now exist allow competitors manufacturers develop competitive low-noise systems over course few years way existing equipment would made im mediately obsolete gradual transi tion could occur might happen voluntarily standards themselves deserve con siderable attention Noise-level standards FAI RC Pattern seem to extremely difficult enforce accurately great deal expense ac curacy essential regulating per formance events What individual would need access soundlevel-measuring equipment would need accurately calibrated much easily enforced standard would similar exists FAI RC Pylon exhaust sys tem must have expansion chamber least certain volume outlet no specified area should reduce engine noise will nothing reduce noise propeller data produced AMA Noise Committee published page 118 July 1983 MA points propeller noise major contributor total noise ompetition model would almost impossible meet FAI Pattern noise restrictions 100 dB meter existing performance-event model Speed Carrier Racing Combat IT Power RC Pylon complete change equipment Mandated revolutionary change con trary AMAs own guidelines com petition rules acceptance would resisted modelers Evolutionary change however has accepted pattern years competition flying Once again noise level standards unless much less restrictive FAI Pattern standard seem accept able alternative equipment specifi cations could tolerated gradual transition allowed Finally plan reduce noise modeling should include following concepts 1 It should actively involve manufac turers 2 It should apply equally sport competition flying 3 It should follow procedures schedules AMA Contest Board regulations will affect competi tion flying 4 It should include campaign get noise regulations FAT events cannot enforce US noise rules FAI events country remain com petitive world competition 5 It should address concerns AMA membership its highest priority last point important opinion participate process cannot complain about results Write talk Ed Izzo District VP own VP let know what think Richard L Perry 7578 Vogels Way Springfield VA 22153 CL CombatlJohnson Continued page 71 streamer string foam leading edge wing RMcM Ed Brzys some very Europeanlooking models radially-mounted engines looked like fat Dog Fight ers did job Ed looked spectacular matches Saturday opponents tail almost whole match just no shaking him mellowed bit Sunday matches will remem bered some best ever flown As often happens important contests usual fuel discarded favor some nasty medicine result power part flightbut often blown engine meltdown Chuck Rud ner go meltdown route limped around making strange pops bangs usually means theres hole pistonbut case just little sunken Chuck told uses depth micrometer determine just far down top piston has caved standard 168 Model Aviation /%1131 NW 45 Street Ft Lauderdale Ft 33309 13051 491-6115 ENGINEERING THE LANDING SEAR PEOPLE Tired 1 kit landing gears dent fIt yeur biggie property O & 0 Engiueenag can seine year problems * Custom built te yoer needs & specs guaranteed te tit * Strong & durable withstand teogheot landing * 0 & 0 Eugineering gear will work & keep veer biggie ttyiug * In utuck replacement gear ter west popular models Byrne PIth Chaisten Eagle CAP 21 Balsa USA J-3 CUR Air Tuch Puwnee Eagle Nesee Rig Slick Chump Citabrla R & R models Snapper Stinger nsd Snapper Too use piston 003 less crunch anything approaching 005 living borrowed time engine may hole piston after run though hac less 003 depression general guide arrived after checking engines Obviously its worth losing match Bladder Grabber Nationals because bad piston best solution replace offending piston although expensive time-consuming refit new Did ever wonder got such weird name contest Bladder Grabber Dan Rutherford years Grabber asked him arrived such name answer sound ed like something out comparative literature classes means whatever want thought about during 1500-mile drive home supposed grab bladder plane blad der because excitement finally did come up real meaning youll hkve come Bladder Grab ber X find out already scheduled same site Boeing Space Center July6 7 1985 saw some cheap unbreakable needle valves Gene Papes engines Theyre made out 4-40 bolts just stick 4-40 cap screw something turns fast like drill grind threads off shape end like very blunt needle Combat engines needle over very narrow range dont want make lot taper part nee dle usually threads tapped out 4-40 too Leave off locking collet tap Itll little sloppy un til lock down 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