Control Line Navy Carrier Dick Perry THE WINNER Mystery Plane contest July Issue Monty Greenly Long Beach CA four entries correctly identify Boulton Paul Sea Balliol trainer used Royal Navy Joe Wagner provided interesting bit additional information turned up research Although Balliol Boulton Paul design Sea Balliol produced Blackburn traditional sup plier aircraft Royal Navy Profile Carrier engines Profile Carrier has seen lot engines over years recent history seems favor down-sized versions larger Schnuerle-ported enginesmost notably Tune-Hill conversion 05 40 FSR K&B 58 engines heavy expen sive Recently two new engines have appeared offer lighter-weight alternative Both intended Combat competition Cipolla 36 available Doc Passen 608 West Main PO Box 111 Jasonville IN 47438 telephone 812/665-3723 real light weight seven ounces throttle ABC Schnuerle front intake rear ex haust details can Charlie Johnsons CL Combat column Septem ber 1986 ModelAviation other engine new Fox 36 Combat Special Mk-VI will available direct Fox 5305 Towson Avenue Fort Smith AR 72901 telephone 501/646-1656 price $80 engine return twin-bail-bearing configuration Mk-IV new crankshaft new piston/cylinder metallurgy larger-diameter wrist pin Mk-V carb should fit traditional square Fox intake have run neither engine Charlie Johnson expects Cipolla par Mk-IV Foxes Advertising claims Fox Mk-VI will outrun Mk-IV 10mph Judge yourself talk Combat flier owns engines would happy hear anyone experience either engine Removable wing put three Carrier models compact car go contest ship model Nats UPS-sizetl container trend being toward larger Carrier models answer questions likely cant really cant unless can take models apart built first removable-wing Carrier models 1985 because couldnt see good way get six 44-in-span models car still have room suitcases flying gear MO-is use two -in-dia nylon bolts 6-32 machine screw attach wing bellcrank fuselage-mounted wing mounting subject line-pull loading fuselage under wing open allow access control system Pete Mazurs approach similar though enclosed area wing attaches used four 6-32 cap screws blind nuts wing fasteners wires aileron linkages slide slots pivoting plate guided slots during wing installation sheet brass V top plate photos show details Petes MO-I well significant reduction bulk made possible disassembling model has span 39 inches weighs 48 ounces dry engine K&B 40S rather large offset -in sheet-balsa wing equipped line snapper described May 1986 issue Movable lead-outs increase line sweep low-speed flight have become standard Carrier events type lead-out unique Carrier models probably accounting fact majority questions receive concern some aspect movable lead-out construction operation alter native methods constructionmost have described column con struction articles Carrier model aircraft Since subject has rather well covered past will concentrate operational con siderations try answer questions can AMA Navy Carrier competition rules rule 43 specify lead-outs lines can exit model point farther aft point wing trailing edge joins fuselage Logic experience indicate lead-outs should far aft possible during low speed achieve maximum benefit Large movements lead-out position ever can produce some undesirable side effects possible movement lead-outs cause corresponding movement elevator reduction effectiveness throttle control effect pronounced lead-outs exit line guide through same hole configuration bellcrank will follow line guide movement exactly high low end throttle movement maybe lost depending location throttle ann bellcrank whether pulling throttle line opens closes throttle lead-out spacing line guide creased exact spacing orientation bellcrank problem unwanted movement eliminated overall yaw available moving lead-out position reduced much two inches large three-line bellcranks An additional effect introduced well model oscillations yaw have no effect lead-outs exit same point now produce changes elevator position Line spacings between two extremes exhibit both tendencies some degree drag reduction lead-outs have tradition ally placed inside wing configura tion prototypes however such placing lead-outs limits amount sweepback available using movable line guide considerably less allowed rules obvious solution accept slight drag penalty use external lead-outs greater line sweep low speed better low-speed scores External lead-outs also easier inspect adjust easiest method releasing line guide its high-speed position secure pin small cotter pin works rather well use movement lead-outs pull pin Some modelers prefer use throttle line purpose first movement low throttle activating release prefer use Down elevator configure control systems fly high speed throttle lever handle pulled toward attach release pin Up line bellcrank adjust release slight Down movement throttle low speed configuration allows have use throttle ground prior takeoff gives full Down control high speed such immediately after takeoff re Continued page 168 December 1986 69 Pete Mazurs MO-i large 39-in-span Class ship K&B 40S power remov ing wingit packs smaller space travelingeven UPS-sized boxes airline no oversize-luggage charges Wing taches fourscrews Twin protruding wires operate aileronsvia slotted bellcrank moved bythe tail hook Bellcrankisinsidefuselage AU-i last version WW II Vought Corsair F4U Jasen Hayes 44-In model uses Supertigre BO power Photo Morrie Leventhal nylon prop will save money over wood variety use 10-6 has plenty flywheel effect help start engine prop gear also help ricochet off ground during matches object keep cost per mach low life-expectancy model high areas noise still problem VooDoo/Fox combination Ive mentioned before would give little performance whereas full-bodied model would give better protection muffler would balance better has ability use stooge launching Flying style would also need modiing Stealth Combat wont fun other variety practically match ends midair suggestion would start off slowly doing wingovers playing leapfrog using other simple maneuvers Stand right next opponent dont run around flap arms use wrist-action flying youll able fly consecutive loops around oppo nents lines getting tied up style looked impressive during diesel days Europe theyd 20 consecutive insides followed same number outsides keep lines clear running 100-yard dash around circle wildly waving arms around thereby snagging opponents lines lockingthem together during tangle ever formal contest using such models flying style think adopting Cartier Five-Round System would best bet Everyone flies least five rounds points matches added together highest combined score placing first such mellow models pilots tuned fun might possible pilot fly 10 matches day C artier System sit down day after two mid-airs both pilots Out completely either model cut away may very harsh rules banzai-type flying has strongly discouraged event will just another 70-mph-midair meet Ive very little experience muffled Combat engines others flying mufflers have good engine suggest please let know about can make smart purchases start Charlie Johnson 3716 Ingraham St San Diego CA 92109 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 leasing line slider could also use flexible line pushrod-and-bellcrank arrange ment connected tail hook lines would released tail hook falls essential once line guide released must immediately move fully aft stay common method achiev ing effect use rubberband move line guide also possible use drag lines accomplish same thing bellcrank position must well aft center gravity method work reliably combination bellcrank mounted balance point free-sliding line guide out spring move aft will result line guide moves back forth flight potentially serious control problems result Some models oscillate rather badly low speed Smooth application power can help prevent te oscillations starting getting proper combination lead-out position outboard wing tip weight particular model can significantly reduce tendency general terms models improve line sweep increases Also models improve tip weight increased may because seems logical solution first thing people try Some models have im proved opposite corrections adjustable tip weight lead-out stops appropriate Increases line sweep usually require less tip weight satisfactory low speed flight New address Ive settled new home although spend time deployed unit Malmstrom Air Force Base MT time read should home modeling gear unpacked able answer mail Richard L Perry 10035 Deadwood Ave Ellsworth AEB SD 57706 Cessna 206 Continued page 72 Astro 035 think 02 035 have same outside diameter 035 being bit longer will need good charger Either use recommended charger motor some research find com patible Electrics fun simple use clean need pay careful attention Continued page 171 KOBBYHIOEAWAYHOBBYHItIEAWAyHOB8YKIDEAWAYHOBByIIIOEAWAY 22 long [v32][b-1-10-1-10]] A, span 1e CONCORDE gshot glider kit PP S_ FAMOUS BRITISH DIESELS LOG-DIESEL HANDBOOK pp HOBBY HIDEWAYDELAVANIL 244-7389 61734 0 HaBeYHiDEAwAyHOeByelDEawayHOsByeiDEAwayyessynlaEAw 168 Model Aviation PRESENTING FL INGER THE ULTIMATE SMALL SAILPLANE HANDLAUNCH HI-STARTorSLOPE WINGSPAN 57 WEIGHT l2oz MACHINE CUT PARTS DEALERS&DIST INQUIRIES INVITEDFLINGER LJMP 110 $2995 ELECTRA L ITE-ICARUS-PANTERA METEOR-ELECTRICUS-WHISTLER PR ELUDE-COMET LARRY JOLLY MODEL PRODUCTS 5501 W COMO SANTA ANA CALIFORNIA 92703 714 826 6861 PUZZLED CALL MATT No time build Mitt hill hove time. mad know 1 Complete Call 9am -8pm lEST 2 Semi-Assembled609-395-1672 ready cover sanded Mitts Model Building PS lox W 1 Stockton DrIve Cranhury NJ 63512 Rate cards available free Send SASE 4-1/8x 9-1/2 else build Curs Boots RON CHIDGEYS TIGER TAIL 4 805 sq Basic Kit tile Pihil. 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Edition: Model Aviation - 1986/12
Page Numbers: 69, 168
Control Line Navy Carrier Dick Perry THE WINNER Mystery Plane contest July Issue Monty Greenly Long Beach CA four entries correctly identify Boulton Paul Sea Balliol trainer used Royal Navy Joe Wagner provided interesting bit additional information turned up research Although Balliol Boulton Paul design Sea Balliol produced Blackburn traditional sup plier aircraft Royal Navy Profile Carrier engines Profile Carrier has seen lot engines over years recent history seems favor down-sized versions larger Schnuerle-ported enginesmost notably Tune-Hill conversion 05 40 FSR K&B 58 engines heavy expen sive Recently two new engines have appeared offer lighter-weight alternative Both intended Combat competition Cipolla 36 available Doc Passen 608 West Main PO Box 111 Jasonville IN 47438 telephone 812/665-3723 real light weight seven ounces throttle ABC Schnuerle front intake rear ex haust details can Charlie Johnsons CL Combat column Septem ber 1986 ModelAviation other engine new Fox 36 Combat Special Mk-VI will available direct Fox 5305 Towson Avenue Fort Smith AR 72901 telephone 501/646-1656 price $80 engine return twin-bail-bearing configuration Mk-IV new crankshaft new piston/cylinder metallurgy larger-diameter wrist pin Mk-V carb should fit traditional square Fox intake have run neither engine Charlie Johnson expects Cipolla par Mk-IV Foxes Advertising claims Fox Mk-VI will outrun Mk-IV 10mph Judge yourself talk Combat flier owns engines would happy hear anyone experience either engine Removable wing put three Carrier models compact car go contest ship model Nats UPS-sizetl container trend being toward larger Carrier models answer questions likely cant really cant unless can take models apart built first removable-wing Carrier models 1985 because couldnt see good way get six 44-in-span models car still have room suitcases flying gear MO-is use two -in-dia nylon bolts 6-32 machine screw attach wing bellcrank fuselage-mounted wing mounting subject line-pull loading fuselage under wing open allow access control system Pete Mazurs approach similar though enclosed area wing attaches used four 6-32 cap screws blind nuts wing fasteners wires aileron linkages slide slots pivoting plate guided slots during wing installation sheet brass V top plate photos show details Petes MO-I well significant reduction bulk made possible disassembling model has span 39 inches weighs 48 ounces dry engine K&B 40S rather large offset -in sheet-balsa wing equipped line snapper described May 1986 issue Movable lead-outs increase line sweep low-speed flight have become standard Carrier events type lead-out unique Carrier models probably accounting fact majority questions receive concern some aspect movable lead-out construction operation alter native methods constructionmost have described column con struction articles Carrier model aircraft Since subject has rather well covered past will concentrate operational con siderations try answer questions can AMA Navy Carrier competition rules rule 43 specify lead-outs lines can exit model point farther aft point wing trailing edge joins fuselage Logic experience indicate lead-outs should far aft possible during low speed achieve maximum benefit Large movements lead-out position ever can produce some undesirable side effects possible movement lead-outs cause corresponding movement elevator reduction effectiveness throttle control effect pronounced lead-outs exit line guide through same hole configuration bellcrank will follow line guide movement exactly high low end throttle movement maybe lost depending location throttle ann bellcrank whether pulling throttle line opens closes throttle lead-out spacing line guide creased exact spacing orientation bellcrank problem unwanted movement eliminated overall yaw available moving lead-out position reduced much two inches large three-line bellcranks An additional effect introduced well model oscillations yaw have no effect lead-outs exit same point now produce changes elevator position Line spacings between two extremes exhibit both tendencies some degree drag reduction lead-outs have tradition ally placed inside wing configura tion prototypes however such placing lead-outs limits amount sweepback available using movable line guide considerably less allowed rules obvious solution accept slight drag penalty use external lead-outs greater line sweep low speed better low-speed scores External lead-outs also easier inspect adjust easiest method releasing line guide its high-speed position secure pin small cotter pin works rather well use movement lead-outs pull pin Some modelers prefer use throttle line purpose first movement low throttle activating release prefer use Down elevator configure control systems fly high speed throttle lever handle pulled toward attach release pin Up line bellcrank adjust release slight Down movement throttle low speed configuration allows have use throttle ground prior takeoff gives full Down control high speed such immediately after takeoff re Continued page 168 December 1986 69 Pete Mazurs MO-i large 39-in-span Class ship K&B 40S power remov ing wingit packs smaller space travelingeven UPS-sized boxes airline no oversize-luggage charges Wing taches fourscrews Twin protruding wires operate aileronsvia slotted bellcrank moved bythe tail hook Bellcrankisinsidefuselage AU-i last version WW II Vought Corsair F4U Jasen Hayes 44-In model uses Supertigre BO power Photo Morrie Leventhal nylon prop will save money over wood variety use 10-6 has plenty flywheel effect help start engine prop gear also help ricochet off ground during matches object keep cost per mach low life-expectancy model high areas noise still problem VooDoo/Fox combination Ive mentioned before would give little performance whereas full-bodied model would give better protection muffler would balance better has ability use stooge launching Flying style would also need modiing Stealth Combat wont fun other variety practically match ends midair suggestion would start off slowly doing wingovers playing leapfrog using other simple maneuvers Stand right next opponent dont run around flap arms use wrist-action flying youll able fly consecutive loops around oppo nents lines getting tied up style looked impressive during diesel days Europe theyd 20 consecutive insides followed same number outsides keep lines clear running 100-yard dash around circle wildly waving arms around thereby snagging opponents lines lockingthem together during tangle ever formal contest using such models flying style think adopting Cartier Five-Round System would best bet Everyone flies least five rounds points matches added together highest combined score placing first such mellow models pilots tuned fun might possible pilot fly 10 matches day C artier System sit down day after two mid-airs both pilots Out completely either model cut away may very harsh rules banzai-type flying has strongly discouraged event will just another 70-mph-midair meet Ive very little experience muffled Combat engines others flying mufflers have good engine suggest please let know about can make smart purchases start Charlie Johnson 3716 Ingraham St San Diego CA 92109 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 leasing line slider could also use flexible line pushrod-and-bellcrank arrange ment connected tail hook lines would released tail hook falls essential once line guide released must immediately move fully aft stay common method achiev ing effect use rubberband move line guide also possible use drag lines accomplish same thing bellcrank position must well aft center gravity method work reliably combination bellcrank mounted balance point free-sliding line guide out spring move aft will result line guide moves back forth flight potentially serious control problems result Some models oscillate rather badly low speed Smooth application power can help prevent te oscillations starting getting proper combination lead-out position outboard wing tip weight particular model can significantly reduce tendency general terms models improve line sweep increases Also models improve tip weight increased may because seems logical solution first thing people try Some models have im proved opposite corrections adjustable tip weight lead-out stops appropriate Increases line sweep usually require less tip weight satisfactory low speed flight New address Ive settled new home although spend time deployed unit Malmstrom Air Force Base MT time read should home modeling gear unpacked able answer mail Richard L Perry 10035 Deadwood Ave Ellsworth AEB SD 57706 Cessna 206 Continued page 72 Astro 035 think 02 035 have same outside diameter 035 being bit longer will need good charger Either use recommended charger motor some research find com patible Electrics fun simple use clean need pay careful attention Continued page 171 KOBBYHIOEAWAYHOBBYHItIEAWAyHOB8YKIDEAWAYHOBByIIIOEAWAY 22 long [v32][b-1-10-1-10]] A, span 1e CONCORDE gshot glider kit PP S_ FAMOUS BRITISH DIESELS LOG-DIESEL HANDBOOK pp HOBBY HIDEWAYDELAVANIL 244-7389 61734 0 HaBeYHiDEAwAyHOeByelDEawayHOsByeiDEAwayyessynlaEAw 168 Model Aviation PRESENTING FL INGER THE ULTIMATE SMALL SAILPLANE HANDLAUNCH HI-STARTorSLOPE WINGSPAN 57 WEIGHT l2oz MACHINE CUT PARTS DEALERS&DIST INQUIRIES INVITEDFLINGER LJMP 110 $2995 ELECTRA L ITE-ICARUS-PANTERA METEOR-ELECTRICUS-WHISTLER PR ELUDE-COMET LARRY JOLLY MODEL PRODUCTS 5501 W COMO SANTA ANA CALIFORNIA 92703 714 826 6861 PUZZLED CALL MATT No time build Mitt hill hove time. mad know 1 Complete Call 9am -8pm lEST 2 Semi-Assembled609-395-1672 ready cover sanded Mitts Model Building PS lox W 1 Stockton DrIve Cranhury NJ 63512 Rate cards available free Send SASE 4-1/8x 9-1/2 else build Curs Boots RON CHIDGEYS TIGER TAIL 4 805 sq Basic Kit tile Pihil. F.. F. C. S Ply SCIShIC diecy tram CAJUN RIG PRODUCTS toir Lafayette LA urn 318 232-7MG