RAT RACE dying going have something about before its too late past few years have seen steady de cline Rat Race participation virtually parts country until local meets just isnt flown Too fast Too complex Too expensive Unsafe Yes probably reasons Lets look areas little closer Too fast Read part letter got Bill Pardue Vice Chairman CLCB couplers out Rat Race winning top-end speeds still appear 150-160 mph range lot whipping goes real strong pro flyers has become part game makes rough newcomers Did some clocking best traffic seven laps right after passing full second faster seven laps approached consistent 1400 lap race sub-pilot less experi ence ran consistent speed same speed other pilot ap proaching pass point Rat Racing has become strong mans event Very few pilots can get last second out full race what takes win event will wear Out weak inexperienced pilot few strong men will fly winners Now stop think what reaction would starting Rat Race against sort competition unless strong men pilot Ill bet would Well lets see what control line tiddley winks has offer leads ... Unsafe Again read piece letter John Kilsdonk Mid-West has always very active Racing events Lately however events have greatly diminished especially Rat Race major reasons two-fold pilot situa tion prevalent second prob lem appears availability cost engines pilot situation bad area twoand allows races run least disaster Weve tried train pilots have much luck todays requirements two circle cant monkey around new guys flying 150-mph rat teaching him moves etc Training him 120 lets say doesnt work either because pull coordination etc different good pilots old ones. So weve got slow em down No matter its done its going popular OK problem pilots What else Heres letter Bill Pardue biggest concern Racing right now leadout construction Am also concerned leadouts other events Quite few fellows now running lines way to-the bellcrank using M-line buttons have proposal make officially OK Most now claim OK grounds equal reason two-line construction shown wrapped instead soldered con nections Soldered will break first have corrosion either flux trapped moisture will cause rust Also have very rigid point solder stops can cause bends concentrate point handling Yes things take place Mono-line Mono-line safety factor much greater two-line safety factor allows us get opinion two-line system must have lines sized take total load line advocate one-line pulltest must have confidence ship will stay lines case previously damaged line breaks remaining line must hold ship control systems subject some stop case emergency Some shut-offs activated until full up down WRL pulled ship hanging line momentarily moment takes lines sized take full load line have safety fac tors presently lines good condition what weaken soldered ends have lines themselves taking beat ing wing tip bearing point normally large flexible leadouts take beating can echo agreement Bills words have Im sure readers several near misses last couple years caused improperly prepared and/or cared lines line size requirement Rat Racing does leave much margin Look numbers two lb Rat flying 150 mph has calculated pull due centrifugal force about 50 lbs 75 percent mm tensile strength 018 music wire 68 lbs pull test 32 Gs 64 lbs doesnt take great visionary powers see what control lines experience during shut off full load suddenly put line fact majority fly-aways Ive seen occurred during shut off get rust minor bends lines normal use safety margin lines just goes away hides Enough safety Im sure get idea am concerned Now to.. Too Complex Too Expensive What does take build competitive Combat ship Slow Combat whatever Yes said Coincontinued page 78 September 1975 35 Racing Bill Lee Rat Race enthusiasts concerned big pilot has advantage over smaller man What thinkafter viewing pictures CL Racing continued page 35 bat nothing less single trip reasonably well-stocked hobby shop Nemesis Supertigre G21 35 can pur chased built out virtually good hobby shop same true Slow Combat Slow Rat large degree Stunt apologies Al what situation prospective Rat Race Goodyear flyer Nothing Thats right nothing Because reasonably well-stocked hobby shop wont have kit good Rat Maybe theyll have mag pan two engines Forget Virtually stuff necessary build good Rat either have build up yourself buy some source heard about somewhere hope engine availability joke base retail price Schneurle-ported 40s now market double what good Combat 35 will cost can find shop has sell anyhow now comes kicker Can build competitive Rat stock engine seriously doubt getting re worked going cost money Some racers Texas claim have spent money four-figure area get stay competi tive wonder Rat going way dinosaur event supposed poor mans team race weve come long way Baby Well weve done lot complaining what constructive thoughts have think con sensus has weve got slow down Rat Race Again pieces some letters John Kilsdonks off-the-cuff evaluation slowing down Rats should have future consideration I Limit fuel. FAI fuel may something will probably hinder restarting May slow down much end Sure would make lot cheaper though 2 Line diameter. Maybe. Presents take off problems feel needed increased safety. WRL 3 Line length. Would probably eliminate some flying sites 4 Profile fuselages. maybe 5 Big wings. maybe 6 Reduce engine displacement 29. No probably would ruin event due lack availability engines 7 Eliminate cowls help Uncowled engines probably wont take much nitro 8 40-size Goodyear. 2 profile twowheeled Goodyear three pit stopshas possibilities addition some thoughts John Joe Klause Durham NC writes Switch 35-size engines plenty market will help little bit decrease speed WANTED ideas happenings hints/kinks how-to sketches photos news etc Send columnist category concernedat address shown column photo idea printed Model Aviation will pay $5 contributor IIPEANUT SCALE II NS ACCESSORIES Complete catalog 25c Peck -Pijmeis PO BOX 2498- AM LA MESA CAUF 92041 2 Require two-wheel landing gear wheel forward mid-point fuselage least six inches apart simply prevents some guys putting two thin wheels strut mounting two very small wheels anhedral stabilizer having wheel forward now have 3 Eliminate pressure fuel systems can hear screams about now Amen WRL suggestions may may popular feel important thing get discussion going among active racing mem bers Bill Pardue suggested towing 12 dia para chute something What think race crazy things called Rats ones should doing talking Ive heard few subject want hear Maybe can make just enough changes King racing events keep dying Lets give try Control Line Racing Advisory Committee will reading first time some time July Im writing middle May what Im about talk about has already some action AMA CL Contest Board badly need control-line racing ad visory committee CLCB rules pro posals flooded AMA year indica tive need knowledgeable advisory group subject control line racing story Rat Race points up need Let pass some correspondence subject Bill Pardue rpose letter . again urge form Racing Advisory Committee CLCB now have such advisory committees representing Speed Combat Navy Carrier Aerobatics time Racing fellows e dare complain abour racing rules either get passed dont like fail pass wanted passed no way 11 members CLCB know very much about events have deal personal opinion appointment advisory com mittees allowed Contest Board Procedures best way under present system have individual areas interest have firm voice CLCB. Others around country have voiced similar opinion John Kilsdonk has taken bull horns proposed Contest Board sixman Racing Advisory Committee author ized CLCB Chairman Jean Pailet early June seeking advice board con cerning proposed appointments assum ing no objections raised committee likely will functioning time issue readers hands address 3522 Tamarisk Lane Mis souri City Tex 77459 Hot Stuff Replacement Tubing Teflon ap plicators use Hot Stuff come 18inch lengths protective packet available dealers distributors Manufacturer also has price change Hot Stuff $800 unit two bottles $570 unit Tubing priced 50 cents Satellite City 9486 Sandusky Ave Box 1935 Arleta Calif 91331 78 Model Aviation ATTENTION HOBBY SHOPS can make money selling Model Aviation magazine profit because Direct sales eliminate middleman Write letterhead full detailsor order letterhead purchase order magazines wish sent store month Youll billed copies sent full provisions crediting unsold copies account Model Aviation Magazine Hobby Shop Service 80615th St NW Suite 620 Washington DC 20005
Edition: Model Aviation - 1975/09
Page Numbers: 35, 78
RAT RACE dying going have something about before its too late past few years have seen steady de cline Rat Race participation virtually parts country until local meets just isnt flown Too fast Too complex Too expensive Unsafe Yes probably reasons Lets look areas little closer Too fast Read part letter got Bill Pardue Vice Chairman CLCB couplers out Rat Race winning top-end speeds still appear 150-160 mph range lot whipping goes real strong pro flyers has become part game makes rough newcomers Did some clocking best traffic seven laps right after passing full second faster seven laps approached consistent 1400 lap race sub-pilot less experi ence ran consistent speed same speed other pilot ap proaching pass point Rat Racing has become strong mans event Very few pilots can get last second out full race what takes win event will wear Out weak inexperienced pilot few strong men will fly winners Now stop think what reaction would starting Rat Race against sort competition unless strong men pilot Ill bet would Well lets see what control line tiddley winks has offer leads ... Unsafe Again read piece letter John Kilsdonk Mid-West has always very active Racing events Lately however events have greatly diminished especially Rat Race major reasons two-fold pilot situa tion prevalent second prob lem appears availability cost engines pilot situation bad area twoand allows races run least disaster Weve tried train pilots have much luck todays requirements two circle cant monkey around new guys flying 150-mph rat teaching him moves etc Training him 120 lets say doesnt work either because pull coordination etc different good pilots old ones. So weve got slow em down No matter its done its going popular OK problem pilots What else Heres letter Bill Pardue biggest concern Racing right now leadout construction Am also concerned leadouts other events Quite few fellows now running lines way to-the bellcrank using M-line buttons have proposal make officially OK Most now claim OK grounds equal reason two-line construction shown wrapped instead soldered con nections Soldered will break first have corrosion either flux trapped moisture will cause rust Also have very rigid point solder stops can cause bends concentrate point handling Yes things take place Mono-line Mono-line safety factor much greater two-line safety factor allows us get opinion two-line system must have lines sized take total load line advocate one-line pulltest must have confidence ship will stay lines case previously damaged line breaks remaining line must hold ship control systems subject some stop case emergency Some shut-offs activated until full up down WRL pulled ship hanging line momentarily moment takes lines sized take full load line have safety fac tors presently lines good condition what weaken soldered ends have lines themselves taking beat ing wing tip bearing point normally large flexible leadouts take beating can echo agreement Bills words have Im sure readers several near misses last couple years caused improperly prepared and/or cared lines line size requirement Rat Racing does leave much margin Look numbers two lb Rat flying 150 mph has calculated pull due centrifugal force about 50 lbs 75 percent mm tensile strength 018 music wire 68 lbs pull test 32 Gs 64 lbs doesnt take great visionary powers see what control lines experience during shut off full load suddenly put line fact majority fly-aways Ive seen occurred during shut off get rust minor bends lines normal use safety margin lines just goes away hides Enough safety Im sure get idea am concerned Now to.. Too Complex Too Expensive What does take build competitive Combat ship Slow Combat whatever Yes said Coincontinued page 78 September 1975 35 Racing Bill Lee Rat Race enthusiasts concerned big pilot has advantage over smaller man What thinkafter viewing pictures CL Racing continued page 35 bat nothing less single trip reasonably well-stocked hobby shop Nemesis Supertigre G21 35 can pur chased built out virtually good hobby shop same true Slow Combat Slow Rat large degree Stunt apologies Al what situation prospective Rat Race Goodyear flyer Nothing Thats right nothing Because reasonably well-stocked hobby shop wont have kit good Rat Maybe theyll have mag pan two engines Forget Virtually stuff necessary build good Rat either have build up yourself buy some source heard about somewhere hope engine availability joke base retail price Schneurle-ported 40s now market double what good Combat 35 will cost can find shop has sell anyhow now comes kicker Can build competitive Rat stock engine seriously doubt getting re worked going cost money Some racers Texas claim have spent money four-figure area get stay competi tive wonder Rat going way dinosaur event supposed poor mans team race weve come long way Baby Well weve done lot complaining what constructive thoughts have think con sensus has weve got slow down Rat Race Again pieces some letters John Kilsdonks off-the-cuff evaluation slowing down Rats should have future consideration I Limit fuel. FAI fuel may something will probably hinder restarting May slow down much end Sure would make lot cheaper though 2 Line diameter. Maybe. Presents take off problems feel needed increased safety. WRL 3 Line length. Would probably eliminate some flying sites 4 Profile fuselages. maybe 5 Big wings. maybe 6 Reduce engine displacement 29. No probably would ruin event due lack availability engines 7 Eliminate cowls help Uncowled engines probably wont take much nitro 8 40-size Goodyear. 2 profile twowheeled Goodyear three pit stopshas possibilities addition some thoughts John Joe Klause Durham NC writes Switch 35-size engines plenty market will help little bit decrease speed WANTED ideas happenings hints/kinks how-to sketches photos news etc Send columnist category concernedat address shown column photo idea printed Model Aviation will pay $5 contributor IIPEANUT SCALE II NS ACCESSORIES Complete catalog 25c Peck -Pijmeis PO BOX 2498- AM LA MESA CAUF 92041 2 Require two-wheel landing gear wheel forward mid-point fuselage least six inches apart simply prevents some guys putting two thin wheels strut mounting two very small wheels anhedral stabilizer having wheel forward now have 3 Eliminate pressure fuel systems can hear screams about now Amen WRL suggestions may may popular feel important thing get discussion going among active racing mem bers Bill Pardue suggested towing 12 dia para chute something What think race crazy things called Rats ones should doing talking Ive heard few subject want hear Maybe can make just enough changes King racing events keep dying Lets give try Control Line Racing Advisory Committee will reading first time some time July Im writing middle May what Im about talk about has already some action AMA CL Contest Board badly need control-line racing ad visory committee CLCB rules pro posals flooded AMA year indica tive need knowledgeable advisory group subject control line racing story Rat Race points up need Let pass some correspondence subject Bill Pardue rpose letter . again urge form Racing Advisory Committee CLCB now have such advisory committees representing Speed Combat Navy Carrier Aerobatics time Racing fellows e dare complain abour racing rules either get passed dont like fail pass wanted passed no way 11 members CLCB know very much about events have deal personal opinion appointment advisory com mittees allowed Contest Board Procedures best way under present system have individual areas interest have firm voice CLCB. Others around country have voiced similar opinion John Kilsdonk has taken bull horns proposed Contest Board sixman Racing Advisory Committee author ized CLCB Chairman Jean Pailet early June seeking advice board con cerning proposed appointments assum ing no objections raised committee likely will functioning time issue readers hands address 3522 Tamarisk Lane Mis souri City Tex 77459 Hot Stuff Replacement Tubing Teflon ap plicators use Hot Stuff come 18inch lengths protective packet available dealers distributors Manufacturer also has price change Hot Stuff $800 unit two bottles $570 unit Tubing priced 50 cents Satellite City 9486 Sandusky Ave Box 1935 Arleta Calif 91331 78 Model Aviation ATTENTION HOBBY SHOPS can make money selling Model Aviation magazine profit because Direct sales eliminate middleman Write letterhead full detailsor order letterhead purchase order magazines wish sent store month Youll billed copies sent full provisions crediting unsold copies account Model Aviation Magazine Hobby Shop Service 80615th St NW Suite 620 Washington DC 20005