NO CONTROVERSIES WANTED December column mentioned concern over certain designs dominating Antique events Old Timer Competi tion suggested rule change pro posals sent Gene Wallock Although intent column repro duce letters Gene asked print thoughts know Gene would mention dedicated mainstay Old Timer movement contributions hobby include production fine line semi kits well unselfish volun teering time resources further Society Antique Modelers Old Timer events Dear Clarence After reading column Model Aviation almost cut band off trying cut out parts last year half weve tons verbage Great Engine Con troversy now youve launched new Lets Eliminate Performance Models Undoubtedly other publications will pick up well have another black eye SAM Seeing printed name address world see please kind enough print letter next column starting Dear Clarence start models dont win contestsmodelers modeler builds models trims enters picks air launches modeler has done homework will probably end up winners circle cause creations models have per formed planned contestant competing against another contestant competitor better does make sense penalize competitor does make sense contestant isnt winners circle get off dead end start getting own act together become competitive modeler old timer modern spineless hed rather legislate ability win rather improve own performance should get out hobby An individual wishes compete contest darn fool doesnt put himself competitive posture before competes An individual wishes sport fly has unlimited opportunities doesnt compete anyone may build fly what chooses power him excitement competition trying beat best flier field model Undoubtedly Ill getting letters proposing elimination various Continued page 99 48 Model Aviation S Old Timers O Clarence Haught Tim Banasak releases 1927 Hobart Cabin powered Pond Hoosier Whirlwind compressed-air engine Weighing 16 oz. ship has 700 sq wing area Clarence says flew like ghost 1977 SAM Champs Wally Lieper pauses retrieving Lanzo rubber entry Foot re trieval recommended long chases heat Holding Garami-designed TO 049-powered Stratostreak Scott Ogburn Exceptionally Bunch-powered Folly Rod Doyle design ciimos oui ror su-secono engine run ob Schaters clean covered transparent Solar Film 6-ft model displays triangular fuselage section aft wing 1937 Zaic Yearbook product review product review product review Aeromodeller Annual 1977-78 edited Ron Moulton 144-page soft cover book latest edition famous long-running series addition 38 fully-dimensioned drawings wide range model designs dozen 3-views support technical features Annual presents comprehensive material over world Contents cover wide array subjects unique interest air modeler Price 295 pounds Argus Books Ltd Argus House 14 St James Rd Watford Herts England product review product review product review mans Stephanies Solidifier just keep things proper perspective Buy youll like Newsletters editors indulgence Id like spend few column-inches say ing thanks clubs send newsletters editors contrive free-fighters foot bills production mailing Quite bit material ends up column derived newsletters directly indirectly Newsletters parts country primary thing prevents column being strictly local affair Gertrude Stein said Oakland Cal Theres no there must have free-flight mind Im midst slicing up cate gorizing about five years worth news lettersa formidable project Simply fil ing newsletters according title month year caused lot good stuff get buried turned out Youll see results think may take awhile So keep cards newsletters coming folks appreciated Bob Meuser 4200 Gregory St Oak land CA 94619 FF Old-Timer/Haught continued page 48 models various events Ill treat objectivelyI will consider valid proposals made mention Antique should Classic Parasols Per Section 1 SAM Rules Paragraph R/C Model Spectacular exciting biggest Model Craft Show yet presenting panorama models planes helicopters cars boats Also U-control free-flight models Model demonstrations will again attract thousands indoors outdoors new Long Beach Convention Center has artificial outdoor lake boat demonstrations special indoor track will allow demonstration electric model cars giant MACS Hobby Contest open 2 C Parasol would considered Pylon Model because doesnt have cabin enclosure similar fullscale aircraft know Parasol isnt Pylon model thats compete Old Timer end up non-competitive 30-Second Antique Theyre very competitive Fuel Allotment Fields its Free Flight have model contest might held once twice year become lousy investment com petitor lot fun sport flier conclusion let competitors com pete best ability let sport fliers thing schedule modelers have choice let make themselves Thermals Gene Wallock PS Bill Daniels sponsored Ohlsson 23 Cabin Model-only contest 1976 hobbyists will present 200 awards Outstanding models crafts Hundreds entries will display throughout show Show hours durng giant two-day-only show Saturday April 2210 am B pm Sunday April 23 11 am 6pm Special dealer-only hours scheduled Sunday g-i 1 am Long Beach Convention Center beautiful Long Beach CA Harbor MACS Model Crafts Shows Inc won event prizebrand-new Cam eron 23 promptly offered same prize contest 1977 won again 1978 contest will held October Lake Elsinore same prize contest open anyone Ohlsson- Cameron 23-powered cabin model hand-launched 25-second engine run 5-minute MAX 3-flights Maybe 1978 well have 7 entries Old-Timer Event Month OLD RULERS least crowds travel dont hear complaints about old-timer activity hear its usually reluctance build another persons design attitude course has tremendous asset free flight over years founders SAM marvellous May1978 99 8th Annual Model Craft Show April 22-23 Long Beach Convention Center MACS Model Craft Shows Inc information call 714 986-8570 idea expressed preamble also great insight creation special event people just have design own Basically event original de signs built 1941 AMA rules means fuselage must have minimum cross sectional area equal fuselage length times 2 divided 100 have wing loading 8 oz/sq ft power load ing 80 oz/cu engine displace ment Some contest directors will let Old Rulers fly regular categories others allow Old Rulers fly special events rate event does allow creative urge prevail Most us couldnt build models construction list live 100 years old own Odds Ends After reading idea joining booster batteries plastic six-pack beverage binders Don Jenkins Indianapolis sent actual example solution problem Don solders two pork bean cans soup can gether triangle fashion soldered wire carrying handle Just drop booster pork bean can fuel spare prop etc soup can head launch area Clarence Haught Rt 5 Box 16 Coeur dAlene ID 83814 FF Indoor/Tenny continued page 49 stead traditional reinforced trailing edge apply launching force ahead models center gravity source styrofoam wings tail surfaces styrofoam meat trays Al cites high price good balsa get ting him started foam can afford meat days flying sur faces shaped razor plane garnet paper surfaces balsa cluded coated mixture 50% water 50% white glue After paint has dried surfaces pol ished #600 wet dry paper Wing reinforcement two formsTissue hat shoe boxes applied tri angular pieces triangles base along leading edge area im mediately ahead bellybutton re inforced typing paper applied wet white glue about props Jim Clem Dallas Oklahoma Clem fired up Al Vaughns success styrofoam has replica Cezar Banks Nats winning Novice Pennyplane prop under construction see photo blades began cutting meat-tray foam white trays seem have density about 2 pounds per cu ft proper blade shape formed blades over metal can just countless Easy B Pennyplane blades have Now serendipity reared its head As can seen photos ribs can transferred blades blades warmed few minutes warm oven implication seems blade could formed regular prop block spar ribs carved surface resulting blades can much thinner lighter blades made good balsa yet molded-in spar ribs would materially stiffen strengthen Plumb Crazy Styled after full-size Formula planes 049-powered 17%-in span Plumb Crazy first series De signed Russ Sandusky Jerry Kramer can compete AMA Mouse Racer Class Bal sa parts machine die cut Kit includes bellcrank lead-out wire wheels formed alu minum landing gear etc Midwest Products Co 400 S Indiana Ave Hobart IN 46342 product review product review product review blades seems worth tryif does share results major area application may Pennyplane props always too small seems handle large amounts rubber needed top times blade area weight penalty may payoff Rubber Knots Perhaps often asked question about indoor model tech niques get knot hold rubber Although seems Ive al ways used memory seems tell Charlie Sotich Chicago Aero nuts shared knot years ago photo shows elements really good knot except parts havent pulled tight Both knot structure method importanteach segment knot should lubricated saliva before pulling tight Tying rubber dry will cause surface rubber scuff up cause weak spot saliva seems ideal lubricant Shortly after knot tied saliva dries out now friction helps hold knot tight Begin knot tying overhand knot both strands rubber photo section lower right has already pulled tight knoj hasnt pulled tight square knot tied top original overhand knot werent Boy Scouts square knot tied using same loose end make both sections knot Careful study photo will re veal left end two loose ends taken over under right end form first half knot middle section photo same end taken over under again formthesecondlayerofknot knot properly tied pulled tight photo can see approximate square formed two sections knot practice half knot moistened saliva pulled tight possible before tying next part Remember allow enough extra length tie knot work first overhand section down loop until loop 100 Model Aviation U APRIL 72& 91972 Friday9 am 6 pm Saturday9 am 6 pm Sunday9 am 330 pm presented by AIEAI SIGNALS R/C CLUB PO BOX 5772 TOLEDO OHIO 43613 product review product review product review
Edition: Model Aviation - 1978/05
Page Numbers: 48, 99, 100
NO CONTROVERSIES WANTED December column mentioned concern over certain designs dominating Antique events Old Timer Competi tion suggested rule change pro posals sent Gene Wallock Although intent column repro duce letters Gene asked print thoughts know Gene would mention dedicated mainstay Old Timer movement contributions hobby include production fine line semi kits well unselfish volun teering time resources further Society Antique Modelers Old Timer events Dear Clarence After reading column Model Aviation almost cut band off trying cut out parts last year half weve tons verbage Great Engine Con troversy now youve launched new Lets Eliminate Performance Models Undoubtedly other publications will pick up well have another black eye SAM Seeing printed name address world see please kind enough print letter next column starting Dear Clarence start models dont win contestsmodelers modeler builds models trims enters picks air launches modeler has done homework will probably end up winners circle cause creations models have per formed planned contestant competing against another contestant competitor better does make sense penalize competitor does make sense contestant isnt winners circle get off dead end start getting own act together become competitive modeler old timer modern spineless hed rather legislate ability win rather improve own performance should get out hobby An individual wishes compete contest darn fool doesnt put himself competitive posture before competes An individual wishes sport fly has unlimited opportunities doesnt compete anyone may build fly what chooses power him excitement competition trying beat best flier field model Undoubtedly Ill getting letters proposing elimination various Continued page 99 48 Model Aviation S Old Timers O Clarence Haught Tim Banasak releases 1927 Hobart Cabin powered Pond Hoosier Whirlwind compressed-air engine Weighing 16 oz. ship has 700 sq wing area Clarence says flew like ghost 1977 SAM Champs Wally Lieper pauses retrieving Lanzo rubber entry Foot re trieval recommended long chases heat Holding Garami-designed TO 049-powered Stratostreak Scott Ogburn Exceptionally Bunch-powered Folly Rod Doyle design ciimos oui ror su-secono engine run ob Schaters clean covered transparent Solar Film 6-ft model displays triangular fuselage section aft wing 1937 Zaic Yearbook product review product review product review Aeromodeller Annual 1977-78 edited Ron Moulton 144-page soft cover book latest edition famous long-running series addition 38 fully-dimensioned drawings wide range model designs dozen 3-views support technical features Annual presents comprehensive material over world Contents cover wide array subjects unique interest air modeler Price 295 pounds Argus Books Ltd Argus House 14 St James Rd Watford Herts England product review product review product review mans Stephanies Solidifier just keep things proper perspective Buy youll like Newsletters editors indulgence Id like spend few column-inches say ing thanks clubs send newsletters editors contrive free-fighters foot bills production mailing Quite bit material ends up column derived newsletters directly indirectly Newsletters parts country primary thing prevents column being strictly local affair Gertrude Stein said Oakland Cal Theres no there must have free-flight mind Im midst slicing up cate gorizing about five years worth news lettersa formidable project Simply fil ing newsletters according title month year caused lot good stuff get buried turned out Youll see results think may take awhile So keep cards newsletters coming folks appreciated Bob Meuser 4200 Gregory St Oak land CA 94619 FF Old-Timer/Haught continued page 48 models various events Ill treat objectivelyI will consider valid proposals made mention Antique should Classic Parasols Per Section 1 SAM Rules Paragraph R/C Model Spectacular exciting biggest Model Craft Show yet presenting panorama models planes helicopters cars boats Also U-control free-flight models Model demonstrations will again attract thousands indoors outdoors new Long Beach Convention Center has artificial outdoor lake boat demonstrations special indoor track will allow demonstration electric model cars giant MACS Hobby Contest open 2 C Parasol would considered Pylon Model because doesnt have cabin enclosure similar fullscale aircraft know Parasol isnt Pylon model thats compete Old Timer end up non-competitive 30-Second Antique Theyre very competitive Fuel Allotment Fields its Free Flight have model contest might held once twice year become lousy investment com petitor lot fun sport flier conclusion let competitors com pete best ability let sport fliers thing schedule modelers have choice let make themselves Thermals Gene Wallock PS Bill Daniels sponsored Ohlsson 23 Cabin Model-only contest 1976 hobbyists will present 200 awards Outstanding models crafts Hundreds entries will display throughout show Show hours durng giant two-day-only show Saturday April 2210 am B pm Sunday April 23 11 am 6pm Special dealer-only hours scheduled Sunday g-i 1 am Long Beach Convention Center beautiful Long Beach CA Harbor MACS Model Crafts Shows Inc won event prizebrand-new Cam eron 23 promptly offered same prize contest 1977 won again 1978 contest will held October Lake Elsinore same prize contest open anyone Ohlsson- Cameron 23-powered cabin model hand-launched 25-second engine run 5-minute MAX 3-flights Maybe 1978 well have 7 entries Old-Timer Event Month OLD RULERS least crowds travel dont hear complaints about old-timer activity hear its usually reluctance build another persons design attitude course has tremendous asset free flight over years founders SAM marvellous May1978 99 8th Annual Model Craft Show April 22-23 Long Beach Convention Center MACS Model Craft Shows Inc information call 714 986-8570 idea expressed preamble also great insight creation special event people just have design own Basically event original de signs built 1941 AMA rules means fuselage must have minimum cross sectional area equal fuselage length times 2 divided 100 have wing loading 8 oz/sq ft power load ing 80 oz/cu engine displace ment Some contest directors will let Old Rulers fly regular categories others allow Old Rulers fly special events rate event does allow creative urge prevail Most us couldnt build models construction list live 100 years old own Odds Ends After reading idea joining booster batteries plastic six-pack beverage binders Don Jenkins Indianapolis sent actual example solution problem Don solders two pork bean cans soup can gether triangle fashion soldered wire carrying handle Just drop booster pork bean can fuel spare prop etc soup can head launch area Clarence Haught Rt 5 Box 16 Coeur dAlene ID 83814 FF Indoor/Tenny continued page 49 stead traditional reinforced trailing edge apply launching force ahead models center gravity source styrofoam wings tail surfaces styrofoam meat trays Al cites high price good balsa get ting him started foam can afford meat days flying sur faces shaped razor plane garnet paper surfaces balsa cluded coated mixture 50% water 50% white glue After paint has dried surfaces pol ished #600 wet dry paper Wing reinforcement two formsTissue hat shoe boxes applied tri angular pieces triangles base along leading edge area im mediately ahead bellybutton re inforced typing paper applied wet white glue about props Jim Clem Dallas Oklahoma Clem fired up Al Vaughns success styrofoam has replica Cezar Banks Nats winning Novice Pennyplane prop under construction see photo blades began cutting meat-tray foam white trays seem have density about 2 pounds per cu ft proper blade shape formed blades over metal can just countless Easy B Pennyplane blades have Now serendipity reared its head As can seen photos ribs can transferred blades blades warmed few minutes warm oven implication seems blade could formed regular prop block spar ribs carved surface resulting blades can much thinner lighter blades made good balsa yet molded-in spar ribs would materially stiffen strengthen Plumb Crazy Styled after full-size Formula planes 049-powered 17%-in span Plumb Crazy first series De signed Russ Sandusky Jerry Kramer can compete AMA Mouse Racer Class Bal sa parts machine die cut Kit includes bellcrank lead-out wire wheels formed alu minum landing gear etc Midwest Products Co 400 S Indiana Ave Hobart IN 46342 product review product review product review blades seems worth tryif does share results major area application may Pennyplane props always too small seems handle large amounts rubber needed top times blade area weight penalty may payoff Rubber Knots Perhaps often asked question about indoor model tech niques get knot hold rubber Although seems Ive al ways used memory seems tell Charlie Sotich Chicago Aero nuts shared knot years ago photo shows elements really good knot except parts havent pulled tight Both knot structure method importanteach segment knot should lubricated saliva before pulling tight Tying rubber dry will cause surface rubber scuff up cause weak spot saliva seems ideal lubricant Shortly after knot tied saliva dries out now friction helps hold knot tight Begin knot tying overhand knot both strands rubber photo section lower right has already pulled tight knoj hasnt pulled tight square knot tied top original overhand knot werent Boy Scouts square knot tied using same loose end make both sections knot Careful study photo will re veal left end two loose ends taken over under right end form first half knot middle section photo same end taken over under again formthesecondlayerofknot knot properly tied pulled tight photo can see approximate square formed two sections knot practice half knot moistened saliva pulled tight possible before tying next part Remember allow enough extra length tie knot work first overhand section down loop until loop 100 Model Aviation U APRIL 72& 91972 Friday9 am 6 pm Saturday9 am 6 pm Sunday9 am 330 pm presented by AIEAI SIGNALS R/C CLUB PO BOX 5772 TOLEDO OHIO 43613 product review product review product review
Edition: Model Aviation - 1978/05
Page Numbers: 48, 99, 100
NO CONTROVERSIES WANTED December column mentioned concern over certain designs dominating Antique events Old Timer Competi tion suggested rule change pro posals sent Gene Wallock Although intent column repro duce letters Gene asked print thoughts know Gene would mention dedicated mainstay Old Timer movement contributions hobby include production fine line semi kits well unselfish volun teering time resources further Society Antique Modelers Old Timer events Dear Clarence After reading column Model Aviation almost cut band off trying cut out parts last year half weve tons verbage Great Engine Con troversy now youve launched new Lets Eliminate Performance Models Undoubtedly other publications will pick up well have another black eye SAM Seeing printed name address world see please kind enough print letter next column starting Dear Clarence start models dont win contestsmodelers modeler builds models trims enters picks air launches modeler has done homework will probably end up winners circle cause creations models have per formed planned contestant competing against another contestant competitor better does make sense penalize competitor does make sense contestant isnt winners circle get off dead end start getting own act together become competitive modeler old timer modern spineless hed rather legislate ability win rather improve own performance should get out hobby An individual wishes compete contest darn fool doesnt put himself competitive posture before competes An individual wishes sport fly has unlimited opportunities doesnt compete anyone may build fly what chooses power him excitement competition trying beat best flier field model Undoubtedly Ill getting letters proposing elimination various Continued page 99 48 Model Aviation S Old Timers O Clarence Haught Tim Banasak releases 1927 Hobart Cabin powered Pond Hoosier Whirlwind compressed-air engine Weighing 16 oz. ship has 700 sq wing area Clarence says flew like ghost 1977 SAM Champs Wally Lieper pauses retrieving Lanzo rubber entry Foot re trieval recommended long chases heat Holding Garami-designed TO 049-powered Stratostreak Scott Ogburn Exceptionally Bunch-powered Folly Rod Doyle design ciimos oui ror su-secono engine run ob Schaters clean covered transparent Solar Film 6-ft model displays triangular fuselage section aft wing 1937 Zaic Yearbook product review product review product review Aeromodeller Annual 1977-78 edited Ron Moulton 144-page soft cover book latest edition famous long-running series addition 38 fully-dimensioned drawings wide range model designs dozen 3-views support technical features Annual presents comprehensive material over world Contents cover wide array subjects unique interest air modeler Price 295 pounds Argus Books Ltd Argus House 14 St James Rd Watford Herts England product review product review product review mans Stephanies Solidifier just keep things proper perspective Buy youll like Newsletters editors indulgence Id like spend few column-inches say ing thanks clubs send newsletters editors contrive free-fighters foot bills production mailing Quite bit material ends up column derived newsletters directly indirectly Newsletters parts country primary thing prevents column being strictly local affair Gertrude Stein said Oakland Cal Theres no there must have free-flight mind Im midst slicing up cate gorizing about five years worth news lettersa formidable project Simply fil ing newsletters according title month year caused lot good stuff get buried turned out Youll see results think may take awhile So keep cards newsletters coming folks appreciated Bob Meuser 4200 Gregory St Oak land CA 94619 FF Old-Timer/Haught continued page 48 models various events Ill treat objectivelyI will consider valid proposals made mention Antique should Classic Parasols Per Section 1 SAM Rules Paragraph R/C Model Spectacular exciting biggest Model Craft Show yet presenting panorama models planes helicopters cars boats Also U-control free-flight models Model demonstrations will again attract thousands indoors outdoors new Long Beach Convention Center has artificial outdoor lake boat demonstrations special indoor track will allow demonstration electric model cars giant MACS Hobby Contest open 2 C Parasol would considered Pylon Model because doesnt have cabin enclosure similar fullscale aircraft know Parasol isnt Pylon model thats compete Old Timer end up non-competitive 30-Second Antique Theyre very competitive Fuel Allotment Fields its Free Flight have model contest might held once twice year become lousy investment com petitor lot fun sport flier conclusion let competitors com pete best ability let sport fliers thing schedule modelers have choice let make themselves Thermals Gene Wallock PS Bill Daniels sponsored Ohlsson 23 Cabin Model-only contest 1976 hobbyists will present 200 awards Outstanding models crafts Hundreds entries will display throughout show Show hours durng giant two-day-only show Saturday April 2210 am B pm Sunday April 23 11 am 6pm Special dealer-only hours scheduled Sunday g-i 1 am Long Beach Convention Center beautiful Long Beach CA Harbor MACS Model Crafts Shows Inc won event prizebrand-new Cam eron 23 promptly offered same prize contest 1977 won again 1978 contest will held October Lake Elsinore same prize contest open anyone Ohlsson- Cameron 23-powered cabin model hand-launched 25-second engine run 5-minute MAX 3-flights Maybe 1978 well have 7 entries Old-Timer Event Month OLD RULERS least crowds travel dont hear complaints about old-timer activity hear its usually reluctance build another persons design attitude course has tremendous asset free flight over years founders SAM marvellous May1978 99 8th Annual Model Craft Show April 22-23 Long Beach Convention Center MACS Model Craft Shows Inc information call 714 986-8570 idea expressed preamble also great insight creation special event people just have design own Basically event original de signs built 1941 AMA rules means fuselage must have minimum cross sectional area equal fuselage length times 2 divided 100 have wing loading 8 oz/sq ft power load ing 80 oz/cu engine displace ment Some contest directors will let Old Rulers fly regular categories others allow Old Rulers fly special events rate event does allow creative urge prevail Most us couldnt build models construction list live 100 years old own Odds Ends After reading idea joining booster batteries plastic six-pack beverage binders Don Jenkins Indianapolis sent actual example solution problem Don solders two pork bean cans soup can gether triangle fashion soldered wire carrying handle Just drop booster pork bean can fuel spare prop etc soup can head launch area Clarence Haught Rt 5 Box 16 Coeur dAlene ID 83814 FF Indoor/Tenny continued page 49 stead traditional reinforced trailing edge apply launching force ahead models center gravity source styrofoam wings tail surfaces styrofoam meat trays Al cites high price good balsa get ting him started foam can afford meat days flying sur faces shaped razor plane garnet paper surfaces balsa cluded coated mixture 50% water 50% white glue After paint has dried surfaces pol ished #600 wet dry paper Wing reinforcement two formsTissue hat shoe boxes applied tri angular pieces triangles base along leading edge area im mediately ahead bellybutton re inforced typing paper applied wet white glue about props Jim Clem Dallas Oklahoma Clem fired up Al Vaughns success styrofoam has replica Cezar Banks Nats winning Novice Pennyplane prop under construction see photo blades began cutting meat-tray foam white trays seem have density about 2 pounds per cu ft proper blade shape formed blades over metal can just countless Easy B Pennyplane blades have Now serendipity reared its head As can seen photos ribs can transferred blades blades warmed few minutes warm oven implication seems blade could formed regular prop block spar ribs carved surface resulting blades can much thinner lighter blades made good balsa yet molded-in spar ribs would materially stiffen strengthen Plumb Crazy Styled after full-size Formula planes 049-powered 17%-in span Plumb Crazy first series De signed Russ Sandusky Jerry Kramer can compete AMA Mouse Racer Class Bal sa parts machine die cut Kit includes bellcrank lead-out wire wheels formed alu minum landing gear etc Midwest Products Co 400 S Indiana Ave Hobart IN 46342 product review product review product review blades seems worth tryif does share results major area application may Pennyplane props always too small seems handle large amounts rubber needed top times blade area weight penalty may payoff Rubber Knots Perhaps often asked question about indoor model tech niques get knot hold rubber Although seems Ive al ways used memory seems tell Charlie Sotich Chicago Aero nuts shared knot years ago photo shows elements really good knot except parts havent pulled tight Both knot structure method importanteach segment knot should lubricated saliva before pulling tight Tying rubber dry will cause surface rubber scuff up cause weak spot saliva seems ideal lubricant Shortly after knot tied saliva dries out now friction helps hold knot tight Begin knot tying overhand knot both strands rubber photo section lower right has already pulled tight knoj hasnt pulled tight square knot tied top original overhand knot werent Boy Scouts square knot tied using same loose end make both sections knot Careful study photo will re veal left end two loose ends taken over under right end form first half knot middle section photo same end taken over under again formthesecondlayerofknot knot properly tied pulled tight photo can see approximate square formed two sections knot practice half knot moistened saliva pulled tight possible before tying next part Remember allow enough extra length tie knot work first overhand section down loop until loop 100 Model Aviation U APRIL 72& 91972 Friday9 am 6 pm Saturday9 am 6 pm Sunday9 am 330 pm presented by AIEAI SIGNALS R/C CLUB PO BOX 5772 TOLEDO OHIO 43613 product review product review product review