NEW ES 100 THP DESIGN TAILORED HELICAL PITCH DEVELOPEDTOGIVE MAXIMUM THRUST AT 4 CYCLE ENGINE RPM ALLTHELATEST TECHNIQUES USED ON OUR PRO SERIES 3 SEE BELOW DIAPITCH THP 1266/2778 136778 14B778 1561 16618 PRO SERIES 3 NEW HIGH TECH AIRFOIL SECTION 10T020%INCREASE IN THRUST MFG OF SELECT HARD MAPLE WOOD WILL NOT FATIGUE LIKE SYNTHETICS FUEL PROOF HIGH LUSTER FINISH DIAPITCH 53/i34 634 72833456 8334568 845687 94566A77 104566A7 106W8W 106EW 1146774778 ii 5W ii 6EW 11 67 12 4W 12 5W 12 56 13 56 14 56 15 56 16 4N 16 618 RC PYLON RACING SERIES 500 DIA PITCH 1 5N 5%N 8I 6778 SERIES 400C 8 66777/ 9 77A7/ W WIDE BLADE EW EXTRA WIDE M hiAAAAW r x Nm Williams flies Mahwah New Jersey New Jersey Nets basketball star C Buck Williams learns fly RC under tutelage Mahwah Model Club instructors George Gera Hank Lewis Buck has since traded Portland Trail Blazers Enclosed photos took basketball star Buck Williams during 1989 flying season Mahwah Unfortunately dont have both us together thats loss Buck joined us early January 89 process building trainer local hobby shop steered him organization keep short Buck trained instructors about four five weeks started flying last week April soloed beginning real summer lost him traded Portland well never forget gentleman off field assisted local projects like Mahwah Library plane-building flying contest Delta Darts other ways know still owns home vicinity truly hope hell rejoin us retires NBA meanwhile hope somebody Portland Oregon picks up great person gives him some flying time out Im spouting off because hes star know him great individual great friend also Joseph J Karpowich Mahwah New Jersey Fox Mfg assists club spring 1987 Mr Duke Fox Fox Manufacturing Company gave away several Fox 40 Deluxe engines selected aeromodeling clubs engines given away used powering clubs trainer aircraft club Valley RC Flying Club AMA No 633 Harrisonburg Virginia lucky recipients have used engine extensively over years course teaching people safely successfully fly RC aircraft engine after having used much recently began show definite signs wear tear returned Mr Fox inspection repair got back pleasantly surprised learn work done including installation new parts free charge wish publicly thank Mr Fox generosity club service dedication sport aeromodeling believe someone stature deserves recognition supporting model aviation grass roots level Chester L Williams Secretary Valley RC Flying Club Dayton Virginia modeling world lost good friend Duke Fox passed away RMcM Air Forcewhere September issue nice article entitled Force Spring workmanship builders did planes remarkable have question addressed story however did annual gathering take place Id like attend next year knowing what month held makes hard plan trip Douglas C Pizac San Dimas California Continued page 196 CORRECTION production error several pares Due October order information following will explain find lost material Charlie Johnsons CL Combat column should continue page 44 page 183 page 183 page 158 thereafter noted Dick Perrys CL Navy Carrier~ column should continue bottom page 154 page 181 bot tom page 181 page 182 flows correctly onto page 183 Dave Linstrums Indoor Nationals re port continues noted bottom page 180 page 184 regret inconvenience error has caused 6 Model Aviation THE LEADER IN COMPETITION PROPELLERS p p I No 701 Jumpin Geo$725 AC gigh performance Sportster especially designed fun fly events Weighs 3-lb spans 485-in 40-45 power No 702 Heinkel HE 18$200 FF Scale model advanced 1924 German monoplane trainer HiLine Mni-6 geared electric motor powered three 100 mil batteries Weighs 121 grams spans 28-in No 447112A Miss America AC Old-Timer WA Texaco model 009 glow 2-channels$650 No 538Slmitar SlowMotion 15 AC Toilleos tying wing 15 engines spano 60 onex 3-ch AC$350 No 578Schweizer 1-26B AC Goarter-ocale Sailplane spans 125 0 Two plan olleeto$1475 No 581Gee Sea Model Y AC Golden Age Racer opaxo 7215 scole 6t power plan oheens$1175 No 588Mariah AC Slope-Soadog Sailplane opano 4lio ooeo 2 AC channeloS425 No 583TayIorcraft RC Sport Susie ligbtplane boildo standard 2-plocer clipped-wing air show slonter Spoos either 704 58/a 35140 two-otmke 40/48 foor-otinke engine Two plan sheets no docomentation$1000 No 598Coronet 150 AC-Assist Old-Timer enlarged 150% spano 72 uses 40size 4-slroke/30-oize 2-stmke$850 No 603Sparrow Hawk P-30 FF Competition abhor-power plane won t7 Nats Spans 30 in$225 No 619Keith Rider R4 FF Scale Golden Age racer robber powor spans 16 in$300 No 620Gimlet 40 AC Sport/Pattem plane spans Ot 40/50 engine 2 sheets$1100 No 624Keleher Leric AC Qoarter-scale homeboilt spans 00 60/00 4-stroke power 2 plan sheets no doc$1100 No 626Sweepee AC Sport/Pattem canards forward-swept wing spoos 64 uses 40 power 2 plan sheets$1300 No 628Prime Cut AC Sport/Aembatic plane spans 00 uses Quadra 35/40-size power Two plan sheetsS1300 No 630Original Fly Baby AC Old-Timer spans 72 in. ones 19/25 2-cycle 40 4-cycle power 2 plan sheets$1150 No 641LII Ole Reliable AC Old-Timer sport tier spans 50% WA enginesS575 No 644Bellanca columbia AC Schoolyard Scale tar 2 AC channels WA engine Wingspan 46 in$575 No 646winter Itawk FF Robber-power Coupe dHiner competition plane spans 47 in$375 No 65047/88 AC Special AC Aembatic sport plane 40 power spans 61 3 plan sheetsS1075 No 652Der Fledennaus AC Law-wing sport plane 20/25 power spans 55 inS675 No 654Tamacat AC Trainer/spsrtster styled like P14 spans 00 40/61 power Fnor plan sheets$1525 No BBSAetmetar PF AMA Class A/B Gas plane spans 07 uses 325/350cc power$800 No 657Super Squire AC Trainer 35140 2-stroke 53 4-stroke power spans 5614 in$750 No 659Boom Box FF Wakefield Robber compe00on plane spans 54 inS400 No 661Embry-Omatic FF Embryo Endurance robber-pawer plane spans 20 in$200 No 663Pea Patch AC Sportster spans 60 uses 40150 4-stroke power 2 plan sheetsS000 No 684Stuka Stunt CL WA Stunter semiscale spans 37rA inS500 No 665Conacientious Oblactor FF Mulnibill Rubber competition plane spans SOW tatS575 No 668Blita AC Sportater spans 40 in. rises hot 28/32 power 2 plan sheets*1075 No 667AT-fl CL Semiscale pmtle Stunner 35/40 power spans 47 in$575 No 669Roto Raven AC Sailplane unique twist-wing control Spano 76-in Requims elenos mising$650 No 671Casana Cardinal PP Reminder Scale sport tier fsr WA power spans 39W-in$575 No 672Kmckerjac AC opdated nemion pioneer sport plane spans 74-in two plan sheets$1375 No 674Krumpler AC 075-powered Electric semi-scale bi-winger spans 39-inS575 No 675BDP1 FF twin-tailed sport flier Cos 02 Pee Wee engine spans 25-in$225 No 676Hiliner AC twin-electdc high-wing Sport ship designed Hiline Imp-tO motor Has tdcycle gear asd spans 40 55400 No 677Thunderbird CL Stunter 20-35 power Two plan oheets drawn odginal 1962 veco kit Spans 54 in$075 No 678Bean Box PF Want Coast Sostoqion Outdoor design Spans 16/a in$150 No 679Big Dingol Large AC Sporister spano OS Per 120-24 power Two plan sheets$1700 No 680Beiieevs winner Rossias FAI CL Combat ship spans 47 in$475 No 6811969 Bade 904 PF Rubber Scale model spans 16W in$325 No 682B T Vintage Trainer AC Reminder-Scale Sportster 20-size engines Spans 47% two plan sheets$1150 No 683Michaels Mustang CL Sport Scale P-Si WA engines Spans 21 is$325 No 684Staggerwing Beach 3-Chonnel AC Schoolyard-Scale bi-wing Sportoter 049 power Spans 32-in$375 No 685Akro-Bat CL Stunter high-parfonoance 049 engines Spans 32-in$230 No 686Poller AC Pattem-type sport plane 2- 4-cycle power Spans 65-in$725 No 687windsock Non-tying Protle P-St used wiodnane Spsns 30-in$575 No 688Stealth Glider PP robberband-launched foam/balsa Canard Catapot/Steath Glider combe Spans 9W-in$200 No 689Thomas Morse Scout 54C AC A-scale biplane 90 power Spans 63-in 3 plan sheets$1975 No 690P829 Twin Muatang CL Protle Sporlater twin MWS 25 dlesels Spans 48-in 2 plan sheets$1050 No 6911927 HL2 PP Susie model Polish homebait 0-0 woO motor robber C02 Spans 29-in$225 No6923 Mater Scooter AC High Performonce Sailplane Spans 110-in 2 plan sheets$1150 No 693Cardinel Classic CL Sport Stenter 35 power Spans 50-in$575 No 694Airnasater AC Canord Sportster two 40 push-pull engines 00 pusher tractor Spans 66-in 2 plas sheets . $1475 No 695Spirit 06 St Louis CL Scale roplica 1525 power Spano 48-in$575 No 696Pole Cat PP P-30 Class AMA Sanior rocord holder Spans 31-In$225 No 697Tigerkltten B AC lligb-perfnnoaoce Sport Aerobatic design 00/15 Cobalt electric power Spans 54-in plan sheet plus toe-page inetroctloo booldet$1000 No 696Novacione CL One-design multi-enent Sport tler 35 power Spans 42-in$400 No 699 Top Cat 90L-1 PP Rubber PAl Indoor Stick Gliderholder AMA Cat PlO & Stick National Recards Spans 13125-in Two plan skeets$300 No 700 Randys Dime AC economical neroatile Sport Trainer ideal 10 power Weighs 33-os. spans 50-is$575 0 nj 5CsJ 0 V ssc 01 no 5 3 0 O co 01 00~ 0 00 0 0 V3 01 55 0 -0o N 0 5 Jo 01510 -01 0 55 no 00 010* C5 00 v 010 _ O -Io 01 e5as 0 960 C -00 C 01CITY Os LL 0 reTi numbers of plans wish order best handling please include quests payment some other service plans order 447539578581588593598603 619620624626628630641644 646650652654655657659661 663664665666667669671672 0 2674675676677678679680681 -682683684685686687688689 690691692693694695696697 698699700701702 Plan price inCludes first Class postage US delivery Air Mail over 300 miles orders non-US address lease add $250 Air Mail osta e handlin Ian Make check money order le US funds drawn US bank Model Aviation AMA 1810 Samuel Morse Dr Reston \JA 22090 Please allow 3 6 weeks delivery Please print CarefullyEnclosed $ ______________________ NAME ________________________________________________ AMA No _________________ STREET ZIP L2TATE Letters Editor Continued page 6 RC Combat attracts members Editors note letter written Dr Sandy Frank Weatheiford Texas Sandy tells us has received almost 100 letters similar expressing interest RCCA Radio Control Combat Association read interest letter editor Model Aviation am interested becoming member charter otherwise recently assembled Kombat 40 Enya 45 CX tuned pipe flies well now am search others dogfight idea aerial combat made immediate sense saw Airplane Factory ad have no doubt will soon see sanctioned events planes Rules will have formulated course As relative newcomer hobby flying three years input might limited am willing help way can am curious about what kind doctor notice life member AMA assume newcomer hobby information am mechanical engineer Lehigh class 78 running own air conditioning business build special refrigeration machinery computer controlled screw machines 1000 hp service large AC systems repaired main AC Cunard Princess Malta before headed Persian Gulf R&R duty Because background RC flying perfect hobby will striving over years understand detail model flight control engines Please let know progressing RCCA may fit Benjamin Bailey Rumson New Jersey Ed note Dr Sandy Frank psychologist RMcM Sandpaper/Mcllrath Continued page 188 sanding board again inspect work ribs have unwanted flat spots protect strips masking tape before resuming little practice youll soon learn quick accurate damage-free work delicate structures tools techniques certainly arent new Perhaps already use someor allof yourself give try may discover hidden talent old-fashioned paper thinks its tool 196 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1991/11
Page Numbers: 6, 196
NEW ES 100 THP DESIGN TAILORED HELICAL PITCH DEVELOPEDTOGIVE MAXIMUM THRUST AT 4 CYCLE ENGINE RPM ALLTHELATEST TECHNIQUES USED ON OUR PRO SERIES 3 SEE BELOW DIAPITCH THP 1266/2778 136778 14B778 1561 16618 PRO SERIES 3 NEW HIGH TECH AIRFOIL SECTION 10T020%INCREASE IN THRUST MFG OF SELECT HARD MAPLE WOOD WILL NOT FATIGUE LIKE SYNTHETICS FUEL PROOF HIGH LUSTER FINISH DIAPITCH 53/i34 634 72833456 8334568 845687 94566A77 104566A7 106W8W 106EW 1146774778 ii 5W ii 6EW 11 67 12 4W 12 5W 12 56 13 56 14 56 15 56 16 4N 16 618 RC PYLON RACING SERIES 500 DIA PITCH 1 5N 5%N 8I 6778 SERIES 400C 8 66777/ 9 77A7/ W WIDE BLADE EW EXTRA WIDE M hiAAAAW r x Nm Williams flies Mahwah New Jersey New Jersey Nets basketball star C Buck Williams learns fly RC under tutelage Mahwah Model Club instructors George Gera Hank Lewis Buck has since traded Portland Trail Blazers Enclosed photos took basketball star Buck Williams during 1989 flying season Mahwah Unfortunately dont have both us together thats loss Buck joined us early January 89 process building trainer local hobby shop steered him organization keep short Buck trained instructors about four five weeks started flying last week April soloed beginning real summer lost him traded Portland well never forget gentleman off field assisted local projects like Mahwah Library plane-building flying contest Delta Darts other ways know still owns home vicinity truly hope hell rejoin us retires NBA meanwhile hope somebody Portland Oregon picks up great person gives him some flying time out Im spouting off because hes star know him great individual great friend also Joseph J Karpowich Mahwah New Jersey Fox Mfg assists club spring 1987 Mr Duke Fox Fox Manufacturing Company gave away several Fox 40 Deluxe engines selected aeromodeling clubs engines given away used powering clubs trainer aircraft club Valley RC Flying Club AMA No 633 Harrisonburg Virginia lucky recipients have used engine extensively over years course teaching people safely successfully fly RC aircraft engine after having used much recently began show definite signs wear tear returned Mr Fox inspection repair got back pleasantly surprised learn work done including installation new parts free charge wish publicly thank Mr Fox generosity club service dedication sport aeromodeling believe someone stature deserves recognition supporting model aviation grass roots level Chester L Williams Secretary Valley RC Flying Club Dayton Virginia modeling world lost good friend Duke Fox passed away RMcM Air Forcewhere September issue nice article entitled Force Spring workmanship builders did planes remarkable have question addressed story however did annual gathering take place Id like attend next year knowing what month held makes hard plan trip Douglas C Pizac San Dimas California Continued page 196 CORRECTION production error several pares Due October order information following will explain find lost material Charlie Johnsons CL Combat column should continue page 44 page 183 page 183 page 158 thereafter noted Dick Perrys CL Navy Carrier~ column should continue bottom page 154 page 181 bot tom page 181 page 182 flows correctly onto page 183 Dave Linstrums Indoor Nationals re port continues noted bottom page 180 page 184 regret inconvenience error has caused 6 Model Aviation THE LEADER IN COMPETITION PROPELLERS p p I No 701 Jumpin Geo$725 AC gigh performance Sportster especially designed fun fly events Weighs 3-lb spans 485-in 40-45 power No 702 Heinkel HE 18$200 FF Scale model advanced 1924 German monoplane trainer HiLine Mni-6 geared electric motor powered three 100 mil batteries Weighs 121 grams spans 28-in No 447112A Miss America AC Old-Timer WA Texaco model 009 glow 2-channels$650 No 538Slmitar SlowMotion 15 AC Toilleos tying wing 15 engines spano 60 onex 3-ch AC$350 No 578Schweizer 1-26B AC Goarter-ocale Sailplane spans 125 0 Two plan olleeto$1475 No 581Gee Sea Model Y AC Golden Age Racer opaxo 7215 scole 6t power plan oheens$1175 No 588Mariah AC Slope-Soadog Sailplane opano 4lio ooeo 2 AC channeloS425 No 583TayIorcraft RC Sport Susie ligbtplane boildo standard 2-plocer clipped-wing air show slonter Spoos either 704 58/a 35140 two-otmke 40/48 foor-otinke engine Two plan sheets no docomentation$1000 No 598Coronet 150 AC-Assist Old-Timer enlarged 150% spano 72 uses 40size 4-slroke/30-oize 2-stmke$850 No 603Sparrow Hawk P-30 FF Competition abhor-power plane won t7 Nats Spans 30 in$225 No 619Keith Rider R4 FF Scale Golden Age racer robber powor spans 16 in$300 No 620Gimlet 40 AC Sport/Pattem plane spans Ot 40/50 engine 2 sheets$1100 No 624Keleher Leric AC Qoarter-scale homeboilt spans 00 60/00 4-stroke power 2 plan sheets no doc$1100 No 626Sweepee AC Sport/Pattem canards forward-swept wing spoos 64 uses 40 power 2 plan sheets$1300 No 628Prime Cut AC Sport/Aembatic plane spans 00 uses Quadra 35/40-size power Two plan sheetsS1300 No 630Original Fly Baby AC Old-Timer spans 72 in. ones 19/25 2-cycle 40 4-cycle power 2 plan sheets$1150 No 641LII Ole Reliable AC Old-Timer sport tier spans 50% WA enginesS575 No 644Bellanca columbia AC Schoolyard Scale tar 2 AC channels WA engine Wingspan 46 in$575 No 646winter Itawk FF Robber-power Coupe dHiner competition plane spans 47 in$375 No 65047/88 AC Special AC Aembatic sport plane 40 power spans 61 3 plan sheetsS1075 No 652Der Fledennaus AC Law-wing sport plane 20/25 power spans 55 inS675 No 654Tamacat AC Trainer/spsrtster styled like P14 spans 00 40/61 power Fnor plan sheets$1525 No BBSAetmetar PF AMA Class A/B Gas plane spans 07 uses 325/350cc power$800 No 657Super Squire AC Trainer 35140 2-stroke 53 4-stroke power spans 5614 in$750 No 659Boom Box FF Wakefield Robber compe00on plane spans 54 inS400 No 661Embry-Omatic FF Embryo Endurance robber-pawer plane spans 20 in$200 No 663Pea Patch AC Sportster spans 60 uses 40150 4-stroke power 2 plan sheetsS000 No 684Stuka Stunt CL WA Stunter semiscale spans 37rA inS500 No 665Conacientious Oblactor FF Mulnibill Rubber competition plane spans SOW tatS575 No 668Blita AC Sportater spans 40 in. rises hot 28/32 power 2 plan sheets*1075 No 667AT-fl CL Semiscale pmtle Stunner 35/40 power spans 47 in$575 No 669Roto Raven AC Sailplane unique twist-wing control Spano 76-in Requims elenos mising$650 No 671Casana Cardinal PP Reminder Scale sport tier fsr WA power spans 39W-in$575 No 672Kmckerjac AC opdated nemion pioneer sport plane spans 74-in two plan sheets$1375 No 674Krumpler AC 075-powered Electric semi-scale bi-winger spans 39-inS575 No 675BDP1 FF twin-tailed sport flier Cos 02 Pee Wee engine spans 25-in$225 No 676Hiliner AC twin-electdc high-wing Sport ship designed Hiline Imp-tO motor Has tdcycle gear asd spans 40 55400 No 677Thunderbird CL Stunter 20-35 power Two plan oheets drawn odginal 1962 veco kit Spans 54 in$075 No 678Bean Box PF Want Coast Sostoqion Outdoor design Spans 16/a in$150 No 679Big Dingol Large AC Sporister spano OS Per 120-24 power Two plan sheets$1700 No 680Beiieevs winner Rossias FAI CL Combat ship spans 47 in$475 No 6811969 Bade 904 PF Rubber Scale model spans 16W in$325 No 682B T Vintage Trainer AC Reminder-Scale Sportster 20-size engines Spans 47% two plan sheets$1150 No 683Michaels Mustang CL Sport Scale P-Si WA engines Spans 21 is$325 No 684Staggerwing Beach 3-Chonnel AC Schoolyard-Scale bi-wing Sportoter 049 power Spans 32-in$375 No 685Akro-Bat CL Stunter high-parfonoance 049 engines Spans 32-in$230 No 686Poller AC Pattem-type sport plane 2- 4-cycle power Spans 65-in$725 No 687windsock Non-tying Protle P-St used wiodnane Spsns 30-in$575 No 688Stealth Glider PP robberband-launched foam/balsa Canard Catapot/Steath Glider combe Spans 9W-in$200 No 689Thomas Morse Scout 54C AC A-scale biplane 90 power Spans 63-in 3 plan sheets$1975 No 690P829 Twin Muatang CL Protle Sporlater twin MWS 25 dlesels Spans 48-in 2 plan sheets$1050 No 6911927 HL2 PP Susie model Polish homebait 0-0 woO motor robber C02 Spans 29-in$225 No6923 Mater Scooter AC High Performonce Sailplane Spans 110-in 2 plan sheets$1150 No 693Cardinel Classic CL Sport Stenter 35 power Spans 50-in$575 No 694Airnasater AC Canord Sportster two 40 push-pull engines 00 pusher tractor Spans 66-in 2 plas sheets . $1475 No 695Spirit 06 St Louis CL Scale roplica 1525 power Spano 48-in$575 No 696Pole Cat PP P-30 Class AMA Sanior rocord holder Spans 31-In$225 No 697Tigerkltten B AC lligb-perfnnoaoce Sport Aerobatic design 00/15 Cobalt electric power Spans 54-in plan sheet plus toe-page inetroctloo booldet$1000 No 696Novacione CL One-design multi-enent Sport tler 35 power Spans 42-in$400 No 699 Top Cat 90L-1 PP Rubber PAl Indoor Stick Gliderholder AMA Cat PlO & Stick National Recards Spans 13125-in Two plan skeets$300 No 700 Randys Dime AC economical neroatile Sport Trainer ideal 10 power Weighs 33-os. spans 50-is$575 0 nj 5CsJ 0 V ssc 01 no 5 3 0 O co 01 00~ 0 00 0 0 V3 01 55 0 -0o N 0 5 Jo 01510 -01 0 55 no 00 010* C5 00 v 010 _ O -Io 01 e5as 0 960 C -00 C 01CITY Os LL 0 reTi numbers of plans wish order best handling please include quests payment some other service plans order 447539578581588593598603 619620624626628630641644 646650652654655657659661 663664665666667669671672 0 2674675676677678679680681 -682683684685686687688689 690691692693694695696697 698699700701702 Plan price inCludes first Class postage US delivery Air Mail over 300 miles orders non-US address lease add $250 Air Mail osta e handlin Ian Make check money order le US funds drawn US bank Model Aviation AMA 1810 Samuel Morse Dr Reston \JA 22090 Please allow 3 6 weeks delivery Please print CarefullyEnclosed $ ______________________ NAME ________________________________________________ AMA No _________________ STREET ZIP L2TATE Letters Editor Continued page 6 RC Combat attracts members Editors note letter written Dr Sandy Frank Weatheiford Texas Sandy tells us has received almost 100 letters similar expressing interest RCCA Radio Control Combat Association read interest letter editor Model Aviation am interested becoming member charter otherwise recently assembled Kombat 40 Enya 45 CX tuned pipe flies well now am search others dogfight idea aerial combat made immediate sense saw Airplane Factory ad have no doubt will soon see sanctioned events planes Rules will have formulated course As relative newcomer hobby flying three years input might limited am willing help way can am curious about what kind doctor notice life member AMA assume newcomer hobby information am mechanical engineer Lehigh class 78 running own air conditioning business build special refrigeration machinery computer controlled screw machines 1000 hp service large AC systems repaired main AC Cunard Princess Malta before headed Persian Gulf R&R duty Because background RC flying perfect hobby will striving over years understand detail model flight control engines Please let know progressing RCCA may fit Benjamin Bailey Rumson New Jersey Ed note Dr Sandy Frank psychologist RMcM Sandpaper/Mcllrath Continued page 188 sanding board again inspect work ribs have unwanted flat spots protect strips masking tape before resuming little practice youll soon learn quick accurate damage-free work delicate structures tools techniques certainly arent new Perhaps already use someor allof yourself give try may discover hidden talent old-fashioned paper thinks its tool 196 Model Aviation