BILL WINTERS FOMIEP An editor should take sides discussions tween readers columnists bystander since first AMA rules written long agowe have come appreciate conflicting philoso phies evolu tion endless ginner events competitive nightmares Few hundreds at-first-enthusiastic model ers turn out have skills fat wallets required seriously fly event time progress get done Although writer interested CL racing eventsbeyond spectator fascination curiosity about designshe caught up Bill Lees col umn Racing Bills observations well dissident readers apply practically everythingManhattan Pennyplane Indoor FF Power Glider Pylon writer recalls Half viewed shot arm free flight popularity Rat Race poor mans Team Race Can lieve Fast Combat bred Slow Com batthat would bolster support Youve heard saying Hell paved good intentions Pylon gave birth Quickie 500 Club Pylon similar HENOERTOON /4 reasonsby dawns early light flag still waves Half Pylon would save world takes $50 now make competitive best Half engine worldspecial bushings needle valves etc belabor obvious After watching ritualistic dances years concludes problem bigger us must better understand nature beast must determined persevere things start Simply making goodie-goodie resolutions speedily forget marks us bunch cookie-cutters nothing wrong compe tition natural order things competition breeds evolution skills technocracy order high orig inal enthusiasts drop out point finger guys al ways top cant blame either would have events can fly competitively have serious about locking simple restric tive rules so-called fun stepping stone events evolving expert grows unhappy expert may drop out disgust knows always have chance beating him has Peter Principle mentality wishes hang around kids forever order comfort him self meaningless trophies well have live him fancy machine shop fat wallet cant make him king have made progress So quits Dare say fear critics wont miss himor shed tear fun event contextyou must understand talk funare com manded devise grandfather clauses few simply cannot stand have lollypops taken away write letters stone what simple events isand will remainAgain talk serious competitive events Leave hot shots can take care themselves graduates can join better bring up ten hundred new peo ple lose few other things What now justify name progress multitudes less gifted very antithesis progress other side coin have winners Good fliers drop out some contests rather face better competitors hackers would happier set goal placing last seeing high up list can place fun challenge see well can against guys always place Some events too far gone us true well attended events allow get lost crowd improve ourselves What does matter never win anything provided have fun flying modicum skill THE Executive Council hasdirected Model Aviation publish ongoing col umn safety something close heart AMA demonstra bly safety-conscious has achieved extraordinary record putting out word mainly through clubs would well publicize mishaps kinds can learn through experi ence others hasnt done Consider fatality talk about will some nervous-Nelly agency ban activ ity People have killed flying kites riding skateboards deaths automobile greater number casualties American wars com bined harvest death accepted like incurable diseases although much has done make driving safer model airplane projects too frivolous image some people ever granted such immunity Once airlines did talk about Continued page 72 4 Model Aviation / I Vo- SCALE R/C iceand ice menace could did bring down airliners day Goodyear did want talk about de-icersa great safety measurebecause implied ice air line customers didnt like Doug Rolfe illustrated feature de-icers old AT Goodyear sent three-man task force office convince us should talk about de-icers get point deaths have occurred modeling electrocution foolish people tried fly beneath powerlines brok en propeller recently Europe humble tool balsa knife now know put fuel can immediate vicinity battery leads terminals know better carry tins fuel car trunk story related go unre ported Safety requires painstaking analysis end have engaged John Preston MC new column beginning De cember issue John works related area government active uncommonly well-informed modeler stranger media ways As part column readers solicited file accident reportsthis much overview just pranging model flying site Like modelers writer considered accidents things happen other people until big Sniffer bit us strange mishap occurred during hand-launch waved left hand too high too far forwardinto whirling prop snap ping prop hub time plastic surgery loomed battered index finger have hand-launching airplanes about 50 years remarked Preston agreed accidents composed multiple fac tors hadnt taken place some thing else could have happened An escal ation cause effect So what contributing factors accident 72 Model Aviation Openers continued page 4 Continued page 104 After hand-launching accident described panels fine wetenddry sandpaper added sides Sniffer bottom well insure solid grip Normally hand tilted forward heavier ship tilting backward may prove easier Actually surest safest way ship wellis launcher run up speed allows airplane lift off naturally Rosie Power Pod Fits COX T- 0 & Med 049 051 Engs Rubber Band Screw Mounting Eng mts upright Inverted Running time appx 4 mm Nylon injection moulded Power 3 lb airplanes total weight 3/4 OL WE ALSO MAKE BANTAM Serv D&R Sticks Connectors Bulkhead Switch mounts TXSfety SwItch l-eavy duty gear Other Access 3501-B W Moore St Santa Arm CA 92704 104 Model Aviation Colors / RED / BLACI YELLOW ORANGE Write Free Catalog Fine Products ROSI ES RIC PRODUCTS Openers/Winter continued page 72 can eliminated future ship large six feet light weight held solidly right hand left hand could have jured So left hand used help steady ship No airplane should handlaunched cannot held securely handwhether because size weight high wing loading wind did Sniffer require steadying Monokote slip pery slippery Oil rich running engine So wasnt ship wiped off between flights Carelessness laziness over-confidence wipe surface between flights what about slippery handhold first place better grip removed sec tions Monokote two sides cabin replaced fine wet-and-dry sandpaper Moistureas handsremoves bits sand ordinary paper Hefting ship noted one-hand launch ship rotates within hand bottom fuselage rest ing side back hand ringer two subconsciously placed beneath fuselage help steady grip added wet-and-dry panel bottom See pictures Moreover two hands must useda no-nothen train yourself re move forward hand down away know before get up steam dont know what say about guys can man age catapult launches Sniffer does have short nose relatively low thrust line big propeller Study thing hands surprised scant safe ty margin existsit close quarters flying alone would have real troublepractically helpless gather gear drive hospital morale never fly alone flier suffered heart attack found another latearriving flier may difficult self-disci plinebut smart man still lives Wed like inputs quickly Prestons safe ty column first done sooner can work actual case histories quickly can get word out save indignities minor scrapes perhaps some thing serious course safety holds down surance costs accidents drive sky-high Whether incident involves earmuffs face masks safety goggles fumes dust tools air planes engines whateverplease write help us fellow modelerand yourself Since discussing accident have told incredible stories guy could start engine used fuel bulb squirt fuel exhaust Fuel cy linder slow burning resultant flash fire exploded bulb fortunately such way fire path followed direction spout opening airplane covered burned through spots no jury Another friend falled start up en gine stood up engine suddenly fired up dragged crate leg Flukes accidents must emphasized dangerous sportthe record proves example doesnt hold candle zany things happen golf carts lets make safer TO ALL guys have contributed -scale Aristocrat project grateful Ten thousand people can make better mon ster editor may yet cause bet tors pool thing will finished Weve sworn give up NASAs comput ers predict sometime between June 18 1980 November 17 1155 pm Meuser chides us Sez fictitious A-scale Gee Bee would lie prone giving up before changes -scale prestige way Thanks have roughly inked drawings entire airplane gentleman pictures booklets bro chures over Real expert help Henry Haftke suggested Williams Wasp 2-in scale Warner told scale wrong reminded us Wasp much bigger engine Warner cy Look what doing song Mal Background Traditional dirty cardboard box fitted small tote fuel can boostersand junk Foreground L R Taylor Super Power Panel replaced Handles simultaneous fast charge automatic shutoff expanded-scale meter checking transmitter airborne batteries Sullivan Pylon starter left fuel pump glow driver Glow driver alone vast improvement left fuel can Du-Bro hand pump highly recommendable cheap troductory Price $8995 S 0 .I6606 S 6SS00 0 Expanded Scale Voltmeter checks bat-U Fuel PumpControl Switch spring-load tery condition both Tx Rx ill side avoid spills urn no Gb-Driver adjustable plug vol- uded tages Automatically compensates forU Starter 12 volt supply elec starter fouled plug Checks plug condition 1000 times per second Operates 12 volt battery source included Field Charger Both Tx Rx either quick-charge trickle modesU Completely Inclosed Can mounted Automatic cut-off protects Ni-Cads ht box used separately Completely Solid State Throughout d SASE Free Catalogl 0 FLASH STARTING ANEW ERA PUBLICATION UNEXCELLED POWERAROBATIC AIRPLANG 0 LOWEST DRAIN49 PAGES 8 XII HOTOS LONGER LIFEBY ROST C MORRISON IS DETAILED DRAWINGS GLOW PLUGS ff ofly $395 PLUS qyCATALOGS SIO0REPLA-TECH 2INTERNATIOPIAL INC SWANSON ASSOCIATES WiL43500 MC KENZIE HWY PT 0X 191WONON VIDA OREGON 97489 69 0UTE 29PEOUANNOCX N W ILlS linders must turn around put pushrods back would equal size h-scale Warner cylinders existed What lift tip sugges tions make 7 diameter wheels 1 dia tires So what cooks have bare-bones fuselage weighs 5 poundswe threw away weight nose form ply because ballast will needed anyway achieve CG located 25% chord SHANGRI LA 45-mile haul casualty gas shortage have flying sites com ing out ears lightly loaded crates fly So lovely greensward much nearer high schoola nice big open field neighbors have annoyed noisewe repaired veritable Lafay ette Escadrilie schoolyard-scale types lo behold appeared group Executive Council types including pres Earl Witt exec John Worth bloody orbiting Buzzard Bombshell Srull de lighted impressive flights rubber pro file Japanese Shindena canard fighter put up Aristocrat Albon Dart Diesel Talk about silent flight Ned Kragness about hundred other things didnt tell about MA story some months ago sistership mechanical trim stabilizer numerous full-scale goodies alas balky Cox seen better days Hurst Bowers put up still another Cox running rich bubbledon Dreamy Luton Minor another bubbly Cox Ace pulse rudder thing will take off smooth ground like Peanut gym hand-launched Talk about slow flight scale-like speeds As circled twi light above line fairly distant trees evoked spirit Old Warden way fly whispered Tongue hanging out replied intelligently Yeah yeah Buzzard got sky high big low-wing cruised high Council types watched knowingly said nothing Wonder what thought strange slow motion fly-in strange schoolyard Northern Virginia peaceful VPs watched building little Aristocrat Said forgotten what flying could like everyone relaxed enjoying himself flying whenever wished Hes dedicated competitorwho also wants get back things way doesnt have give up thing can add considerable pleasure hobby fun things just taking RC Scale/Wischers continued page 31 club field attached local flight strip members brought full size Varga Kachina Shinn 21 50A strip examined plane possible scale project mentioned its tiny tail surfaces being liability because nose wheel could lifted take-off rotation until considerable speed built up What appeared first thought detrimental actually desirable feature since plane must have flying speed before lift off chances snap roll takeoff landing less have similar experiences some scale models have small tail surfaces deHavilland racer mentioned earlier exam ple Old time modelers seeing its tiny tail feathers cast doubt its stability has proven case however models handling near stall has exemplary pitch stability problems have occured other models result overly sensitive elevators greater travel necessary Bob Dolly Wischer Rt 1 S-221 Lapham Peak Road Delafiel4 WI 53018 RC Helicopters/Chesney continued page 33 After initial drop-out helicopter will enter autorotation air moving up through blades will keep somewhat constant speed must keep nose down slight amount forward cyclic Keep helicopter moving forward over-control cyclic comands because cyclic input will affect rotor speed goal maintain constant rotor speed rate angle descent landing flare begins about 6 feet flare simply back stick command no collec tive used reduce rate descent forward speed helicopter Ground speed should reduced near zero As flare begins rotor will momentarily overspeed due exposing greater disc area relative wind Take advantage overspeeding increase collective pitch final soft landing altitude three feet either cyclic flares collective pitch given too early stored energy rotor could used up making landing less soft timing very important Simple Right complete rundown autorotating American K/C Commander available Mike Mas American R/C Helicopter 23811 Via Fabricante Suite 102 Mission Viejo CA 92691 youre flying Heliboy contact Gorham Associates SC Modeler Miniature Aircraft Supply information Heliboy autorotating modifications flying tips product review product review product review Super Blue Set-up Aerotrends way introducing new Super Large size Blue Line siliconehigh qualiryfuel tubing Dimensions Super Large 5/32 10 x 3/32 wall .super large tough Tough enough heavy duty fuel pumping electric fuel pumps water cooling applica tions boats spot need superior strength yet flexibility Super Blue Set-up comes prepackaged 5 lengths attached nozzle tour 41 reusable ties convenience Super Large size Blue Line also available 30 reels Re tail Super Blue Set-up $369 per pkg Super Large reel 69c per foot product review product review product review 106 Model Aviation Flight box included 4 Super Blue Set-Ups Aerotrend Products 44 West Prospect St New Haven CT 06515
Edition: Model Aviation - 1979/10
Page Numbers: 4, 72, 104, 106
BILL WINTERS FOMIEP An editor should take sides discussions tween readers columnists bystander since first AMA rules written long agowe have come appreciate conflicting philoso phies evolu tion endless ginner events competitive nightmares Few hundreds at-first-enthusiastic model ers turn out have skills fat wallets required seriously fly event time progress get done Although writer interested CL racing eventsbeyond spectator fascination curiosity about designshe caught up Bill Lees col umn Racing Bills observations well dissident readers apply practically everythingManhattan Pennyplane Indoor FF Power Glider Pylon writer recalls Half viewed shot arm free flight popularity Rat Race poor mans Team Race Can lieve Fast Combat bred Slow Com batthat would bolster support Youve heard saying Hell paved good intentions Pylon gave birth Quickie 500 Club Pylon similar HENOERTOON /4 reasonsby dawns early light flag still waves Half Pylon would save world takes $50 now make competitive best Half engine worldspecial bushings needle valves etc belabor obvious After watching ritualistic dances years concludes problem bigger us must better understand nature beast must determined persevere things start Simply making goodie-goodie resolutions speedily forget marks us bunch cookie-cutters nothing wrong compe tition natural order things competition breeds evolution skills technocracy order high orig inal enthusiasts drop out point finger guys al ways top cant blame either would have events can fly competitively have serious about locking simple restric tive rules so-called fun stepping stone events evolving expert grows unhappy expert may drop out disgust knows always have chance beating him has Peter Principle mentality wishes hang around kids forever order comfort him self meaningless trophies well have live him fancy machine shop fat wallet cant make him king have made progress So quits Dare say fear critics wont miss himor shed tear fun event contextyou must understand talk funare com manded devise grandfather clauses few simply cannot stand have lollypops taken away write letters stone what simple events isand will remainAgain talk serious competitive events Leave hot shots can take care themselves graduates can join better bring up ten hundred new peo ple lose few other things What now justify name progress multitudes less gifted very antithesis progress other side coin have winners Good fliers drop out some contests rather face better competitors hackers would happier set goal placing last seeing high up list can place fun challenge see well can against guys always place Some events too far gone us true well attended events allow get lost crowd improve ourselves What does matter never win anything provided have fun flying modicum skill THE Executive Council hasdirected Model Aviation publish ongoing col umn safety something close heart AMA demonstra bly safety-conscious has achieved extraordinary record putting out word mainly through clubs would well publicize mishaps kinds can learn through experi ence others hasnt done Consider fatality talk about will some nervous-Nelly agency ban activ ity People have killed flying kites riding skateboards deaths automobile greater number casualties American wars com bined harvest death accepted like incurable diseases although much has done make driving safer model airplane projects too frivolous image some people ever granted such immunity Once airlines did talk about Continued page 72 4 Model Aviation / I Vo- SCALE R/C iceand ice menace could did bring down airliners day Goodyear did want talk about de-icersa great safety measurebecause implied ice air line customers didnt like Doug Rolfe illustrated feature de-icers old AT Goodyear sent three-man task force office convince us should talk about de-icers get point deaths have occurred modeling electrocution foolish people tried fly beneath powerlines brok en propeller recently Europe humble tool balsa knife now know put fuel can immediate vicinity battery leads terminals know better carry tins fuel car trunk story related go unre ported Safety requires painstaking analysis end have engaged John Preston MC new column beginning De cember issue John works related area government active uncommonly well-informed modeler stranger media ways As part column readers solicited file accident reportsthis much overview just pranging model flying site Like modelers writer considered accidents things happen other people until big Sniffer bit us strange mishap occurred during hand-launch waved left hand too high too far forwardinto whirling prop snap ping prop hub time plastic surgery loomed battered index finger have hand-launching airplanes about 50 years remarked Preston agreed accidents composed multiple fac tors hadnt taken place some thing else could have happened An escal ation cause effect So what contributing factors accident 72 Model Aviation Openers continued page 4 Continued page 104 After hand-launching accident described panels fine wetenddry sandpaper added sides Sniffer bottom well insure solid grip Normally hand tilted forward heavier ship tilting backward may prove easier Actually surest safest way ship wellis launcher run up speed allows airplane lift off naturally Rosie Power Pod Fits COX T- 0 & Med 049 051 Engs Rubber Band Screw Mounting Eng mts upright Inverted Running time appx 4 mm Nylon injection moulded Power 3 lb airplanes total weight 3/4 OL WE ALSO MAKE BANTAM Serv D&R Sticks Connectors Bulkhead Switch mounts TXSfety SwItch l-eavy duty gear Other Access 3501-B W Moore St Santa Arm CA 92704 104 Model Aviation Colors / RED / BLACI YELLOW ORANGE Write Free Catalog Fine Products ROSI ES RIC PRODUCTS Openers/Winter continued page 72 can eliminated future ship large six feet light weight held solidly right hand left hand could have jured So left hand used help steady ship No airplane should handlaunched cannot held securely handwhether because size weight high wing loading wind did Sniffer require steadying Monokote slip pery slippery Oil rich running engine So wasnt ship wiped off between flights Carelessness laziness over-confidence wipe surface between flights what about slippery handhold first place better grip removed sec tions Monokote two sides cabin replaced fine wet-and-dry sandpaper Moistureas handsremoves bits sand ordinary paper Hefting ship noted one-hand launch ship rotates within hand bottom fuselage rest ing side back hand ringer two subconsciously placed beneath fuselage help steady grip added wet-and-dry panel bottom See pictures Moreover two hands must useda no-nothen train yourself re move forward hand down away know before get up steam dont know what say about guys can man age catapult launches Sniffer does have short nose relatively low thrust line big propeller Study thing hands surprised scant safe ty margin existsit close quarters flying alone would have real troublepractically helpless gather gear drive hospital morale never fly alone flier suffered heart attack found another latearriving flier may difficult self-disci plinebut smart man still lives Wed like inputs quickly Prestons safe ty column first done sooner can work actual case histories quickly can get word out save indignities minor scrapes perhaps some thing serious course safety holds down surance costs accidents drive sky-high Whether incident involves earmuffs face masks safety goggles fumes dust tools air planes engines whateverplease write help us fellow modelerand yourself Since discussing accident have told incredible stories guy could start engine used fuel bulb squirt fuel exhaust Fuel cy linder slow burning resultant flash fire exploded bulb fortunately such way fire path followed direction spout opening airplane covered burned through spots no jury Another friend falled start up en gine stood up engine suddenly fired up dragged crate leg Flukes accidents must emphasized dangerous sportthe record proves example doesnt hold candle zany things happen golf carts lets make safer TO ALL guys have contributed -scale Aristocrat project grateful Ten thousand people can make better mon ster editor may yet cause bet tors pool thing will finished Weve sworn give up NASAs comput ers predict sometime between June 18 1980 November 17 1155 pm Meuser chides us Sez fictitious A-scale Gee Bee would lie prone giving up before changes -scale prestige way Thanks have roughly inked drawings entire airplane gentleman pictures booklets bro chures over Real expert help Henry Haftke suggested Williams Wasp 2-in scale Warner told scale wrong reminded us Wasp much bigger engine Warner cy Look what doing song Mal Background Traditional dirty cardboard box fitted small tote fuel can boostersand junk Foreground L R Taylor Super Power Panel replaced Handles simultaneous fast charge automatic shutoff expanded-scale meter checking transmitter airborne batteries Sullivan Pylon starter left fuel pump glow driver Glow driver alone vast improvement left fuel can Du-Bro hand pump highly recommendable cheap troductory Price $8995 S 0 .I6606 S 6SS00 0 Expanded Scale Voltmeter checks bat-U Fuel PumpControl Switch spring-load tery condition both Tx Rx ill side avoid spills urn no Gb-Driver adjustable plug vol- uded tages Automatically compensates forU Starter 12 volt supply elec starter fouled plug Checks plug condition 1000 times per second Operates 12 volt battery source included Field Charger Both Tx Rx either quick-charge trickle modesU Completely Inclosed Can mounted Automatic cut-off protects Ni-Cads ht box used separately Completely Solid State Throughout d SASE Free Catalogl 0 FLASH STARTING ANEW ERA PUBLICATION UNEXCELLED POWERAROBATIC AIRPLANG 0 LOWEST DRAIN49 PAGES 8 XII HOTOS LONGER LIFEBY ROST C MORRISON IS DETAILED DRAWINGS GLOW PLUGS ff ofly $395 PLUS qyCATALOGS SIO0REPLA-TECH 2INTERNATIOPIAL INC SWANSON ASSOCIATES WiL43500 MC KENZIE HWY PT 0X 191WONON VIDA OREGON 97489 69 0UTE 29PEOUANNOCX N W ILlS linders must turn around put pushrods back would equal size h-scale Warner cylinders existed What lift tip sugges tions make 7 diameter wheels 1 dia tires So what cooks have bare-bones fuselage weighs 5 poundswe threw away weight nose form ply because ballast will needed anyway achieve CG located 25% chord SHANGRI LA 45-mile haul casualty gas shortage have flying sites com ing out ears lightly loaded crates fly So lovely greensward much nearer high schoola nice big open field neighbors have annoyed noisewe repaired veritable Lafay ette Escadrilie schoolyard-scale types lo behold appeared group Executive Council types including pres Earl Witt exec John Worth bloody orbiting Buzzard Bombshell Srull de lighted impressive flights rubber pro file Japanese Shindena canard fighter put up Aristocrat Albon Dart Diesel Talk about silent flight Ned Kragness about hundred other things didnt tell about MA story some months ago sistership mechanical trim stabilizer numerous full-scale goodies alas balky Cox seen better days Hurst Bowers put up still another Cox running rich bubbledon Dreamy Luton Minor another bubbly Cox Ace pulse rudder thing will take off smooth ground like Peanut gym hand-launched Talk about slow flight scale-like speeds As circled twi light above line fairly distant trees evoked spirit Old Warden way fly whispered Tongue hanging out replied intelligently Yeah yeah Buzzard got sky high big low-wing cruised high Council types watched knowingly said nothing Wonder what thought strange slow motion fly-in strange schoolyard Northern Virginia peaceful VPs watched building little Aristocrat Said forgotten what flying could like everyone relaxed enjoying himself flying whenever wished Hes dedicated competitorwho also wants get back things way doesnt have give up thing can add considerable pleasure hobby fun things just taking RC Scale/Wischers continued page 31 club field attached local flight strip members brought full size Varga Kachina Shinn 21 50A strip examined plane possible scale project mentioned its tiny tail surfaces being liability because nose wheel could lifted take-off rotation until considerable speed built up What appeared first thought detrimental actually desirable feature since plane must have flying speed before lift off chances snap roll takeoff landing less have similar experiences some scale models have small tail surfaces deHavilland racer mentioned earlier exam ple Old time modelers seeing its tiny tail feathers cast doubt its stability has proven case however models handling near stall has exemplary pitch stability problems have occured other models result overly sensitive elevators greater travel necessary Bob Dolly Wischer Rt 1 S-221 Lapham Peak Road Delafiel4 WI 53018 RC Helicopters/Chesney continued page 33 After initial drop-out helicopter will enter autorotation air moving up through blades will keep somewhat constant speed must keep nose down slight amount forward cyclic Keep helicopter moving forward over-control cyclic comands because cyclic input will affect rotor speed goal maintain constant rotor speed rate angle descent landing flare begins about 6 feet flare simply back stick command no collec tive used reduce rate descent forward speed helicopter Ground speed should reduced near zero As flare begins rotor will momentarily overspeed due exposing greater disc area relative wind Take advantage overspeeding increase collective pitch final soft landing altitude three feet either cyclic flares collective pitch given too early stored energy rotor could used up making landing less soft timing very important Simple Right complete rundown autorotating American K/C Commander available Mike Mas American R/C Helicopter 23811 Via Fabricante Suite 102 Mission Viejo CA 92691 youre flying Heliboy contact Gorham Associates SC Modeler Miniature Aircraft Supply information Heliboy autorotating modifications flying tips product review product review product review Super Blue Set-up Aerotrends way introducing new Super Large size Blue Line siliconehigh qualiryfuel tubing Dimensions Super Large 5/32 10 x 3/32 wall .super large tough Tough enough heavy duty fuel pumping electric fuel pumps water cooling applica tions boats spot need superior strength yet flexibility Super Blue Set-up comes prepackaged 5 lengths attached nozzle tour 41 reusable ties convenience Super Large size Blue Line also available 30 reels Re tail Super Blue Set-up $369 per pkg Super Large reel 69c per foot product review product review product review 106 Model Aviation Flight box included 4 Super Blue Set-Ups Aerotrend Products 44 West Prospect St New Haven CT 06515
Edition: Model Aviation - 1979/10
Page Numbers: 4, 72, 104, 106
BILL WINTERS FOMIEP An editor should take sides discussions tween readers columnists bystander since first AMA rules written long agowe have come appreciate conflicting philoso phies evolu tion endless ginner events competitive nightmares Few hundreds at-first-enthusiastic model ers turn out have skills fat wallets required seriously fly event time progress get done Although writer interested CL racing eventsbeyond spectator fascination curiosity about designshe caught up Bill Lees col umn Racing Bills observations well dissident readers apply practically everythingManhattan Pennyplane Indoor FF Power Glider Pylon writer recalls Half viewed shot arm free flight popularity Rat Race poor mans Team Race Can lieve Fast Combat bred Slow Com batthat would bolster support Youve heard saying Hell paved good intentions Pylon gave birth Quickie 500 Club Pylon similar HENOERTOON /4 reasonsby dawns early light flag still waves Half Pylon would save world takes $50 now make competitive best Half engine worldspecial bushings needle valves etc belabor obvious After watching ritualistic dances years concludes problem bigger us must better understand nature beast must determined persevere things start Simply making goodie-goodie resolutions speedily forget marks us bunch cookie-cutters nothing wrong compe tition natural order things competition breeds evolution skills technocracy order high orig inal enthusiasts drop out point finger guys al ways top cant blame either would have events can fly competitively have serious about locking simple restric tive rules so-called fun stepping stone events evolving expert grows unhappy expert may drop out disgust knows always have chance beating him has Peter Principle mentality wishes hang around kids forever order comfort him self meaningless trophies well have live him fancy machine shop fat wallet cant make him king have made progress So quits Dare say fear critics wont miss himor shed tear fun event contextyou must understand talk funare com manded devise grandfather clauses few simply cannot stand have lollypops taken away write letters stone what simple events isand will remainAgain talk serious competitive events Leave hot shots can take care themselves graduates can join better bring up ten hundred new peo ple lose few other things What now justify name progress multitudes less gifted very antithesis progress other side coin have winners Good fliers drop out some contests rather face better competitors hackers would happier set goal placing last seeing high up list can place fun challenge see well can against guys always place Some events too far gone us true well attended events allow get lost crowd improve ourselves What does matter never win anything provided have fun flying modicum skill THE Executive Council hasdirected Model Aviation publish ongoing col umn safety something close heart AMA demonstra bly safety-conscious has achieved extraordinary record putting out word mainly through clubs would well publicize mishaps kinds can learn through experi ence others hasnt done Consider fatality talk about will some nervous-Nelly agency ban activ ity People have killed flying kites riding skateboards deaths automobile greater number casualties American wars com bined harvest death accepted like incurable diseases although much has done make driving safer model airplane projects too frivolous image some people ever granted such immunity Once airlines did talk about Continued page 72 4 Model Aviation / I Vo- SCALE R/C iceand ice menace could did bring down airliners day Goodyear did want talk about de-icersa great safety measurebecause implied ice air line customers didnt like Doug Rolfe illustrated feature de-icers old AT Goodyear sent three-man task force office convince us should talk about de-icers get point deaths have occurred modeling electrocution foolish people tried fly beneath powerlines brok en propeller recently Europe humble tool balsa knife now know put fuel can immediate vicinity battery leads terminals know better carry tins fuel car trunk story related go unre ported Safety requires painstaking analysis end have engaged John Preston MC new column beginning De cember issue John works related area government active uncommonly well-informed modeler stranger media ways As part column readers solicited file accident reportsthis much overview just pranging model flying site Like modelers writer considered accidents things happen other people until big Sniffer bit us strange mishap occurred during hand-launch waved left hand too high too far forwardinto whirling prop snap ping prop hub time plastic surgery loomed battered index finger have hand-launching airplanes about 50 years remarked Preston agreed accidents composed multiple fac tors hadnt taken place some thing else could have happened An escal ation cause effect So what contributing factors accident 72 Model Aviation Openers continued page 4 Continued page 104 After hand-launching accident described panels fine wetenddry sandpaper added sides Sniffer bottom well insure solid grip Normally hand tilted forward heavier ship tilting backward may prove easier Actually surest safest way ship wellis launcher run up speed allows airplane lift off naturally Rosie Power Pod Fits COX T- 0 & Med 049 051 Engs Rubber Band Screw Mounting Eng mts upright Inverted Running time appx 4 mm Nylon injection moulded Power 3 lb airplanes total weight 3/4 OL WE ALSO MAKE BANTAM Serv D&R Sticks Connectors Bulkhead Switch mounts TXSfety SwItch l-eavy duty gear Other Access 3501-B W Moore St Santa Arm CA 92704 104 Model Aviation Colors / RED / BLACI YELLOW ORANGE Write Free Catalog Fine Products ROSI ES RIC PRODUCTS Openers/Winter continued page 72 can eliminated future ship large six feet light weight held solidly right hand left hand could have jured So left hand used help steady ship No airplane should handlaunched cannot held securely handwhether because size weight high wing loading wind did Sniffer require steadying Monokote slip pery slippery Oil rich running engine So wasnt ship wiped off between flights Carelessness laziness over-confidence wipe surface between flights what about slippery handhold first place better grip removed sec tions Monokote two sides cabin replaced fine wet-and-dry sandpaper Moistureas handsremoves bits sand ordinary paper Hefting ship noted one-hand launch ship rotates within hand bottom fuselage rest ing side back hand ringer two subconsciously placed beneath fuselage help steady grip added wet-and-dry panel bottom See pictures Moreover two hands must useda no-nothen train yourself re move forward hand down away know before get up steam dont know what say about guys can man age catapult launches Sniffer does have short nose relatively low thrust line big propeller Study thing hands surprised scant safe ty margin existsit close quarters flying alone would have real troublepractically helpless gather gear drive hospital morale never fly alone flier suffered heart attack found another latearriving flier may difficult self-disci plinebut smart man still lives Wed like inputs quickly Prestons safe ty column first done sooner can work actual case histories quickly can get word out save indignities minor scrapes perhaps some thing serious course safety holds down surance costs accidents drive sky-high Whether incident involves earmuffs face masks safety goggles fumes dust tools air planes engines whateverplease write help us fellow modelerand yourself Since discussing accident have told incredible stories guy could start engine used fuel bulb squirt fuel exhaust Fuel cy linder slow burning resultant flash fire exploded bulb fortunately such way fire path followed direction spout opening airplane covered burned through spots no jury Another friend falled start up en gine stood up engine suddenly fired up dragged crate leg Flukes accidents must emphasized dangerous sportthe record proves example doesnt hold candle zany things happen golf carts lets make safer TO ALL guys have contributed -scale Aristocrat project grateful Ten thousand people can make better mon ster editor may yet cause bet tors pool thing will finished Weve sworn give up NASAs comput ers predict sometime between June 18 1980 November 17 1155 pm Meuser chides us Sez fictitious A-scale Gee Bee would lie prone giving up before changes -scale prestige way Thanks have roughly inked drawings entire airplane gentleman pictures booklets bro chures over Real expert help Henry Haftke suggested Williams Wasp 2-in scale Warner told scale wrong reminded us Wasp much bigger engine Warner cy Look what doing song Mal Background Traditional dirty cardboard box fitted small tote fuel can boostersand junk Foreground L R Taylor Super Power Panel replaced Handles simultaneous fast charge automatic shutoff expanded-scale meter checking transmitter airborne batteries Sullivan Pylon starter left fuel pump glow driver Glow driver alone vast improvement left fuel can Du-Bro hand pump highly recommendable cheap troductory Price $8995 S 0 .I6606 S 6SS00 0 Expanded Scale Voltmeter checks bat-U Fuel PumpControl Switch spring-load tery condition both Tx Rx ill side avoid spills urn no Gb-Driver adjustable plug vol- uded tages Automatically compensates forU Starter 12 volt supply elec starter fouled plug Checks plug condition 1000 times per second Operates 12 volt battery source included Field Charger Both Tx Rx either quick-charge trickle modesU Completely Inclosed Can mounted Automatic cut-off protects Ni-Cads ht box used separately Completely Solid State Throughout d SASE Free Catalogl 0 FLASH STARTING ANEW ERA PUBLICATION UNEXCELLED POWERAROBATIC AIRPLANG 0 LOWEST DRAIN49 PAGES 8 XII HOTOS LONGER LIFEBY ROST C MORRISON IS DETAILED DRAWINGS GLOW PLUGS ff ofly $395 PLUS qyCATALOGS SIO0REPLA-TECH 2INTERNATIOPIAL INC SWANSON ASSOCIATES WiL43500 MC KENZIE HWY PT 0X 191WONON VIDA OREGON 97489 69 0UTE 29PEOUANNOCX N W ILlS linders must turn around put pushrods back would equal size h-scale Warner cylinders existed What lift tip sugges tions make 7 diameter wheels 1 dia tires So what cooks have bare-bones fuselage weighs 5 poundswe threw away weight nose form ply because ballast will needed anyway achieve CG located 25% chord SHANGRI LA 45-mile haul casualty gas shortage have flying sites com ing out ears lightly loaded crates fly So lovely greensward much nearer high schoola nice big open field neighbors have annoyed noisewe repaired veritable Lafay ette Escadrilie schoolyard-scale types lo behold appeared group Executive Council types including pres Earl Witt exec John Worth bloody orbiting Buzzard Bombshell Srull de lighted impressive flights rubber pro file Japanese Shindena canard fighter put up Aristocrat Albon Dart Diesel Talk about silent flight Ned Kragness about hundred other things didnt tell about MA story some months ago sistership mechanical trim stabilizer numerous full-scale goodies alas balky Cox seen better days Hurst Bowers put up still another Cox running rich bubbledon Dreamy Luton Minor another bubbly Cox Ace pulse rudder thing will take off smooth ground like Peanut gym hand-launched Talk about slow flight scale-like speeds As circled twi light above line fairly distant trees evoked spirit Old Warden way fly whispered Tongue hanging out replied intelligently Yeah yeah Buzzard got sky high big low-wing cruised high Council types watched knowingly said nothing Wonder what thought strange slow motion fly-in strange schoolyard Northern Virginia peaceful VPs watched building little Aristocrat Said forgotten what flying could like everyone relaxed enjoying himself flying whenever wished Hes dedicated competitorwho also wants get back things way doesnt have give up thing can add considerable pleasure hobby fun things just taking RC Scale/Wischers continued page 31 club field attached local flight strip members brought full size Varga Kachina Shinn 21 50A strip examined plane possible scale project mentioned its tiny tail surfaces being liability because nose wheel could lifted take-off rotation until considerable speed built up What appeared first thought detrimental actually desirable feature since plane must have flying speed before lift off chances snap roll takeoff landing less have similar experiences some scale models have small tail surfaces deHavilland racer mentioned earlier exam ple Old time modelers seeing its tiny tail feathers cast doubt its stability has proven case however models handling near stall has exemplary pitch stability problems have occured other models result overly sensitive elevators greater travel necessary Bob Dolly Wischer Rt 1 S-221 Lapham Peak Road Delafiel4 WI 53018 RC Helicopters/Chesney continued page 33 After initial drop-out helicopter will enter autorotation air moving up through blades will keep somewhat constant speed must keep nose down slight amount forward cyclic Keep helicopter moving forward over-control cyclic comands because cyclic input will affect rotor speed goal maintain constant rotor speed rate angle descent landing flare begins about 6 feet flare simply back stick command no collec tive used reduce rate descent forward speed helicopter Ground speed should reduced near zero As flare begins rotor will momentarily overspeed due exposing greater disc area relative wind Take advantage overspeeding increase collective pitch final soft landing altitude three feet either cyclic flares collective pitch given too early stored energy rotor could used up making landing less soft timing very important Simple Right complete rundown autorotating American K/C Commander available Mike Mas American R/C Helicopter 23811 Via Fabricante Suite 102 Mission Viejo CA 92691 youre flying Heliboy contact Gorham Associates SC Modeler Miniature Aircraft Supply information Heliboy autorotating modifications flying tips product review product review product review Super Blue Set-up Aerotrends way introducing new Super Large size Blue Line siliconehigh qualiryfuel tubing Dimensions Super Large 5/32 10 x 3/32 wall .super large tough Tough enough heavy duty fuel pumping electric fuel pumps water cooling applica tions boats spot need superior strength yet flexibility Super Blue Set-up comes prepackaged 5 lengths attached nozzle tour 41 reusable ties convenience Super Large size Blue Line also available 30 reels Re tail Super Blue Set-up $369 per pkg Super Large reel 69c per foot product review product review product review 106 Model Aviation Flight box included 4 Super Blue Set-Ups Aerotrend Products 44 West Prospect St New Haven CT 06515
Edition: Model Aviation - 1979/10
Page Numbers: 4, 72, 104, 106
BILL WINTERS FOMIEP An editor should take sides discussions tween readers columnists bystander since first AMA rules written long agowe have come appreciate conflicting philoso phies evolu tion endless ginner events competitive nightmares Few hundreds at-first-enthusiastic model ers turn out have skills fat wallets required seriously fly event time progress get done Although writer interested CL racing eventsbeyond spectator fascination curiosity about designshe caught up Bill Lees col umn Racing Bills observations well dissident readers apply practically everythingManhattan Pennyplane Indoor FF Power Glider Pylon writer recalls Half viewed shot arm free flight popularity Rat Race poor mans Team Race Can lieve Fast Combat bred Slow Com batthat would bolster support Youve heard saying Hell paved good intentions Pylon gave birth Quickie 500 Club Pylon similar HENOERTOON /4 reasonsby dawns early light flag still waves Half Pylon would save world takes $50 now make competitive best Half engine worldspecial bushings needle valves etc belabor obvious After watching ritualistic dances years concludes problem bigger us must better understand nature beast must determined persevere things start Simply making goodie-goodie resolutions speedily forget marks us bunch cookie-cutters nothing wrong compe tition natural order things competition breeds evolution skills technocracy order high orig inal enthusiasts drop out point finger guys al ways top cant blame either would have events can fly competitively have serious about locking simple restric tive rules so-called fun stepping stone events evolving expert grows unhappy expert may drop out disgust knows always have chance beating him has Peter Principle mentality wishes hang around kids forever order comfort him self meaningless trophies well have live him fancy machine shop fat wallet cant make him king have made progress So quits Dare say fear critics wont miss himor shed tear fun event contextyou must understand talk funare com manded devise grandfather clauses few simply cannot stand have lollypops taken away write letters stone what simple events isand will remainAgain talk serious competitive events Leave hot shots can take care themselves graduates can join better bring up ten hundred new peo ple lose few other things What now justify name progress multitudes less gifted very antithesis progress other side coin have winners Good fliers drop out some contests rather face better competitors hackers would happier set goal placing last seeing high up list can place fun challenge see well can against guys always place Some events too far gone us true well attended events allow get lost crowd improve ourselves What does matter never win anything provided have fun flying modicum skill THE Executive Council hasdirected Model Aviation publish ongoing col umn safety something close heart AMA demonstra bly safety-conscious has achieved extraordinary record putting out word mainly through clubs would well publicize mishaps kinds can learn through experi ence others hasnt done Consider fatality talk about will some nervous-Nelly agency ban activ ity People have killed flying kites riding skateboards deaths automobile greater number casualties American wars com bined harvest death accepted like incurable diseases although much has done make driving safer model airplane projects too frivolous image some people ever granted such immunity Once airlines did talk about Continued page 72 4 Model Aviation / I Vo- SCALE R/C iceand ice menace could did bring down airliners day Goodyear did want talk about de-icersa great safety measurebecause implied ice air line customers didnt like Doug Rolfe illustrated feature de-icers old AT Goodyear sent three-man task force office convince us should talk about de-icers get point deaths have occurred modeling electrocution foolish people tried fly beneath powerlines brok en propeller recently Europe humble tool balsa knife now know put fuel can immediate vicinity battery leads terminals know better carry tins fuel car trunk story related go unre ported Safety requires painstaking analysis end have engaged John Preston MC new column beginning De cember issue John works related area government active uncommonly well-informed modeler stranger media ways As part column readers solicited file accident reportsthis much overview just pranging model flying site Like modelers writer considered accidents things happen other people until big Sniffer bit us strange mishap occurred during hand-launch waved left hand too high too far forwardinto whirling prop snap ping prop hub time plastic surgery loomed battered index finger have hand-launching airplanes about 50 years remarked Preston agreed accidents composed multiple fac tors hadnt taken place some thing else could have happened An escal ation cause effect So what contributing factors accident 72 Model Aviation Openers continued page 4 Continued page 104 After hand-launching accident described panels fine wetenddry sandpaper added sides Sniffer bottom well insure solid grip Normally hand tilted forward heavier ship tilting backward may prove easier Actually surest safest way ship wellis launcher run up speed allows airplane lift off naturally Rosie Power Pod Fits COX T- 0 & Med 049 051 Engs Rubber Band Screw Mounting Eng mts upright Inverted Running time appx 4 mm Nylon injection moulded Power 3 lb airplanes total weight 3/4 OL WE ALSO MAKE BANTAM Serv D&R Sticks Connectors Bulkhead Switch mounts TXSfety SwItch l-eavy duty gear Other Access 3501-B W Moore St Santa Arm CA 92704 104 Model Aviation Colors / RED / BLACI YELLOW ORANGE Write Free Catalog Fine Products ROSI ES RIC PRODUCTS Openers/Winter continued page 72 can eliminated future ship large six feet light weight held solidly right hand left hand could have jured So left hand used help steady ship No airplane should handlaunched cannot held securely handwhether because size weight high wing loading wind did Sniffer require steadying Monokote slip pery slippery Oil rich running engine So wasnt ship wiped off between flights Carelessness laziness over-confidence wipe surface between flights what about slippery handhold first place better grip removed sec tions Monokote two sides cabin replaced fine wet-and-dry sandpaper Moistureas handsremoves bits sand ordinary paper Hefting ship noted one-hand launch ship rotates within hand bottom fuselage rest ing side back hand ringer two subconsciously placed beneath fuselage help steady grip added wet-and-dry panel bottom See pictures Moreover two hands must useda no-nothen train yourself re move forward hand down away know before get up steam dont know what say about guys can man age catapult launches Sniffer does have short nose relatively low thrust line big propeller Study thing hands surprised scant safe ty margin existsit close quarters flying alone would have real troublepractically helpless gather gear drive hospital morale never fly alone flier suffered heart attack found another latearriving flier may difficult self-disci plinebut smart man still lives Wed like inputs quickly Prestons safe ty column first done sooner can work actual case histories quickly can get word out save indignities minor scrapes perhaps some thing serious course safety holds down surance costs accidents drive sky-high Whether incident involves earmuffs face masks safety goggles fumes dust tools air planes engines whateverplease write help us fellow modelerand yourself Since discussing accident have told incredible stories guy could start engine used fuel bulb squirt fuel exhaust Fuel cy linder slow burning resultant flash fire exploded bulb fortunately such way fire path followed direction spout opening airplane covered burned through spots no jury Another friend falled start up en gine stood up engine suddenly fired up dragged crate leg Flukes accidents must emphasized dangerous sportthe record proves example doesnt hold candle zany things happen golf carts lets make safer TO ALL guys have contributed -scale Aristocrat project grateful Ten thousand people can make better mon ster editor may yet cause bet tors pool thing will finished Weve sworn give up NASAs comput ers predict sometime between June 18 1980 November 17 1155 pm Meuser chides us Sez fictitious A-scale Gee Bee would lie prone giving up before changes -scale prestige way Thanks have roughly inked drawings entire airplane gentleman pictures booklets bro chures over Real expert help Henry Haftke suggested Williams Wasp 2-in scale Warner told scale wrong reminded us Wasp much bigger engine Warner cy Look what doing song Mal Background Traditional dirty cardboard box fitted small tote fuel can boostersand junk Foreground L R Taylor Super Power Panel replaced Handles simultaneous fast charge automatic shutoff expanded-scale meter checking transmitter airborne batteries Sullivan Pylon starter left fuel pump glow driver Glow driver alone vast improvement left fuel can Du-Bro hand pump highly recommendable cheap troductory Price $8995 S 0 .I6606 S 6SS00 0 Expanded Scale Voltmeter checks bat-U Fuel PumpControl Switch spring-load tery condition both Tx Rx ill side avoid spills urn no Gb-Driver adjustable plug vol- uded tages Automatically compensates forU Starter 12 volt supply elec starter fouled plug Checks plug condition 1000 times per second Operates 12 volt battery source included Field Charger Both Tx Rx either quick-charge trickle modesU Completely Inclosed Can mounted Automatic cut-off protects Ni-Cads ht box used separately Completely Solid State Throughout d SASE Free Catalogl 0 FLASH STARTING ANEW ERA PUBLICATION UNEXCELLED POWERAROBATIC AIRPLANG 0 LOWEST DRAIN49 PAGES 8 XII HOTOS LONGER LIFEBY ROST C MORRISON IS DETAILED DRAWINGS GLOW PLUGS ff ofly $395 PLUS qyCATALOGS SIO0REPLA-TECH 2INTERNATIOPIAL INC SWANSON ASSOCIATES WiL43500 MC KENZIE HWY PT 0X 191WONON VIDA OREGON 97489 69 0UTE 29PEOUANNOCX N W ILlS linders must turn around put pushrods back would equal size h-scale Warner cylinders existed What lift tip sugges tions make 7 diameter wheels 1 dia tires So what cooks have bare-bones fuselage weighs 5 poundswe threw away weight nose form ply because ballast will needed anyway achieve CG located 25% chord SHANGRI LA 45-mile haul casualty gas shortage have flying sites com ing out ears lightly loaded crates fly So lovely greensward much nearer high schoola nice big open field neighbors have annoyed noisewe repaired veritable Lafay ette Escadrilie schoolyard-scale types lo behold appeared group Executive Council types including pres Earl Witt exec John Worth bloody orbiting Buzzard Bombshell Srull de lighted impressive flights rubber pro file Japanese Shindena canard fighter put up Aristocrat Albon Dart Diesel Talk about silent flight Ned Kragness about hundred other things didnt tell about MA story some months ago sistership mechanical trim stabilizer numerous full-scale goodies alas balky Cox seen better days Hurst Bowers put up still another Cox running rich bubbledon Dreamy Luton Minor another bubbly Cox Ace pulse rudder thing will take off smooth ground like Peanut gym hand-launched Talk about slow flight scale-like speeds As circled twi light above line fairly distant trees evoked spirit Old Warden way fly whispered Tongue hanging out replied intelligently Yeah yeah Buzzard got sky high big low-wing cruised high Council types watched knowingly said nothing Wonder what thought strange slow motion fly-in strange schoolyard Northern Virginia peaceful VPs watched building little Aristocrat Said forgotten what flying could like everyone relaxed enjoying himself flying whenever wished Hes dedicated competitorwho also wants get back things way doesnt have give up thing can add considerable pleasure hobby fun things just taking RC Scale/Wischers continued page 31 club field attached local flight strip members brought full size Varga Kachina Shinn 21 50A strip examined plane possible scale project mentioned its tiny tail surfaces being liability because nose wheel could lifted take-off rotation until considerable speed built up What appeared first thought detrimental actually desirable feature since plane must have flying speed before lift off chances snap roll takeoff landing less have similar experiences some scale models have small tail surfaces deHavilland racer mentioned earlier exam ple Old time modelers seeing its tiny tail feathers cast doubt its stability has proven case however models handling near stall has exemplary pitch stability problems have occured other models result overly sensitive elevators greater travel necessary Bob Dolly Wischer Rt 1 S-221 Lapham Peak Road Delafiel4 WI 53018 RC Helicopters/Chesney continued page 33 After initial drop-out helicopter will enter autorotation air moving up through blades will keep somewhat constant speed must keep nose down slight amount forward cyclic Keep helicopter moving forward over-control cyclic comands because cyclic input will affect rotor speed goal maintain constant rotor speed rate angle descent landing flare begins about 6 feet flare simply back stick command no collec tive used reduce rate descent forward speed helicopter Ground speed should reduced near zero As flare begins rotor will momentarily overspeed due exposing greater disc area relative wind Take advantage overspeeding increase collective pitch final soft landing altitude three feet either cyclic flares collective pitch given too early stored energy rotor could used up making landing less soft timing very important Simple Right complete rundown autorotating American K/C Commander available Mike Mas American R/C Helicopter 23811 Via Fabricante Suite 102 Mission Viejo CA 92691 youre flying Heliboy contact Gorham Associates SC Modeler Miniature Aircraft Supply information Heliboy autorotating modifications flying tips product review product review product review Super Blue Set-up Aerotrends way introducing new Super Large size Blue Line siliconehigh qualiryfuel tubing Dimensions Super Large 5/32 10 x 3/32 wall .super large tough Tough enough heavy duty fuel pumping electric fuel pumps water cooling applica tions boats spot need superior strength yet flexibility Super Blue Set-up comes prepackaged 5 lengths attached nozzle tour 41 reusable ties convenience Super Large size Blue Line also available 30 reels Re tail Super Blue Set-up $369 per pkg Super Large reel 69c per foot product review product review product review 106 Model Aviation Flight box included 4 Super Blue Set-Ups Aerotrend Products 44 West Prospect St New Haven CT 06515