Radio Control SPORT AEROBA TICS Ron Van Putte SNOWED UNDER column May 1983 issue request information Flat Top Stormer precipitated ava lanche information about Doug Spreng both versions Stormer Gene Mathis Daphne AL sent fat envelope stuffed data pictures Nick Zelinka Coral Gables FL sent thicker ma nila envelope pictures plans copy magazine contained original article also got letters over including ones Maurice Franklin Oceanside CA containing recent pictures Doug Spreng Flat Top Stormer Al Strickland Lake Havasu City AZ sent Dougs current address 163 Opos sum Dr Lake Havasu City AZ 86403 What caught attention based response request information about 20 r-old airplane design must bunch people interested era RC favorite columns Just Fun old pro Bill Winter Bills column always chock full memories love bit Appar ently lot us around Id like include pictures stories about old-time RC Pattern column now again will try use pictures stories can get please send anything think others might like see about RC Way Ill return submissions sent soon pictures negatives returned magazine staff start about pictures information Bob Dunham Ed Kazmirski Tom Brett Back situation hand what follows boiled-down version infor mation received Stormer quite few variations article original Stormer published April 1961 American Modeler magazine plans also available Hobby Helpers Group Plan 562 Unfortunately far know Hobby Helpers out business plans also available John Pond Old Time Plan Service PO Box 3215 San Jose CA 95156 Flat Top Stormer available either 60-in 64-in wing tips 44 Model Aviation Twenty years ago Bob Dunnam flows Ed Kazmirskis modified Taurus Californias Mile Square flying site radio Ed holding probably prototype Orbit analog proportional set Taurus originally flew 12-channel reeds Photo Nicholas Zelinka Coral Gables FL Nick Zelinka son Frank Veco 45-powered Flat Top Stormer Look size transmitter foreground Its 12-ch Kraft set Photo N Zelinka 1g63 Doug Spreng designer Stormer holds Maurice Franklins tail-dragger Flat Top Stormer Camp Pendleton CA Doug wound up taking plane home after flying session add another six span powered Lee Veco 45 would cost lot cash days stabilizer could built rectangular tapered Maurice Franklin built few years ago installed K&B 40 claims fine barnstorming airplane weighing 5/2 lb made mistake letting Doug Spreng fly Camp Pen dleton Oceanside CA flying field Spreng went home airplane Mau rice also built another Flat Top Stormer installed OS 60 four-cycle engine flew fine until OS replaced Redshift 61/tuned-pipe combination airplane became rocketuntil came apart air Apparently stressed kind power feels would sell like mad anyone kitted based responses received hes probably right last two years ever since finishing new Phoenix 8 contest flying has frustrated bad engine runs tried thing figure out what causing engine overheat run lean Com pounding situation several con tributors problem primary cause Originally appeared problem caused foaming fuel bad card favorite glow plugs fuel pump leaked air some bad main bearings two engines confused problem made take long get back real causefuel foaming Fuel foaming sneaky problem very difficult get rid engines use RC Pattern cause much vibration fuel foams must use large fuel tanks because piped engines drink much fuel makes tanks tight fit nose fuselage little room left padding isolate tank vi bration Fuel pumps dont work well foaming fuel engines like less typical flight starts out like nothing wrong followed gradual leaning out overheating engine two years unusual complete Pattern flight least excuse doing poorly contests wanted fly pattern beaten better pilotsnot pilots engines ran got bad group Pattern fliers 1982 Pensacola FL Fiesta Five Flags Contest took up collection buy new engine sure engine wasnt fault Continued page 163 10181jJlng P~B ~ln9 i/ 10y4•f yjltlO 60 8 lbS i uW aeObat~ourstrOWe pare0j tve reW erioS idea got per 60 cU60 oU vte aIW 50 YJ jerV6 oO 8orW r aVCe TteIpvrl3i COSIgn 1ci DASOI CBse COrP SStj0ra 619 72A August 1983 45 Gene Mathis self-proclaimed worlds foremost Stormer fan took picture 1963shows Stormer Taurus Gene Daphne AL always has Stormer flying condition ~jln9 p0sjgneaTbYf 5port BIPI8fl 00A052 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX AMA Membership55 AceRClnc47 Aero Tech RC150 Air Design84 Airtronics2 Phase Art144 American RC Helicopters141 Americas Hobby Center25 Astro Flight54 Balsa USA6-7 Bavarian Precision Products158 Behrens Plan Service160 Dave Brown Products76 Bru Line Industries84 Byron Originals4351 Carlberg Companies136 Carolina-Taffinder162 Johnnie Casburn Mfg23 Chaiies RC Goodies84 Circus Hobbles94-100 Cleveland Model & Supply153 Eric Clutton153 Condor Hobbies137 Consumers Guide RC Aircraft Prod. Consumers Hobby Corp156-157 Coverite162 DA Enterprises D&D Engineering DG Products DGA Designs 0GM Industries Detroit Expo Dougs Hobby Shop ro Products Dynathrust Props Addis Elmore Fab-Tek Inc FAI Model Supply FHS Supply Flite Line Products Flyline Models 16 144 160 163 155 18-19 26 - 148 145 140 151 - 10 161 159 4 11 142-143 154 9 150 77 133 69 Fourmost Products69 Fox Mfg Co145 Full Command Systems37 Futaba Corp America29 Gator RC Products158 Carl Goldberg Models159 Gorham Model Products14 Great Lakes Model & Mold Co16 Great Planes Mod Mfg CoInside Front Cover Grish Brothers140 Art Gross Enterprises159 Hardware Systems Historic Aviation Hobby Barn Hobby Horn Hobby Lobby International Hobby Radio Shop Hobby Shack Horizon Model Crafts Hotel Harrington indy RC Sales J-5 Enterprises Hi Johnson Model Products K&B Manufacturing Co K&S Engineering Kraft Systems Kustom Kraftsmanship Leisure Electronics Lone Star Models MACS Products152 Majestic Models150 McDaniel RC Service163 Jim Messers Quality Model Products Midwest Products85 Mills Airplane Models76 Miniature Aircraft Supply149 Model Rectifier Corp side Back Cover Mutchiers Hobbies146-147 Nor-Cal Avionics37 159 151 45 145 152 155 Ohio Superstar P Productions P&G Metal Products Pacer Technology & Resources Pacific Air Pica Products Polks Hobby RC Kits Mfg RF Enterprises RJL Industries RLF Products Radio South Repla-Tech International Richardson Precision Machining Robbe Modelisport Norm Rosenstock Roush Mfg Co 28 154 137 17 144 15 27 69 85 94 136 - 137 155 140 134-135 137 - 49 51 148 155 93 28 13 148 14 162 160 154 54 158 24 1 153 SR Batteries S&W Hobby Supply Co Saf-Flite Models 138-139 Satellite City Sheldons Hobby Shop 54 Sig Manufacturing Co 76 Sonic-Tronics Squadron-Signal Publications St Croix Park Falls Ltd Swanson Associates T&D Fiberglass Tatone Products Taylor-Craft Ltd Tide Distributors Inc Top Flite Models Tower Hobbies WE Technical Services136 Williams Brothers4 Windsor Propeller Co8 World EnginesBack Cover Xplorer Enterprises51 Zenith Aviation Books5 Nick Ziroli Models10 152 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX tion other two positions straight up offno mixing Rudder/Aileron Neither positions will get trouble Rudder/Elevator mix gives Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder Down Elevator Down Elevator Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder understand iis V-tailed aircraft doesnt belong its present exposed position fix Ive glued hardwood wedge switch using CyA glue cannot moved Rudder/Elevator position 1 hope will save others simi lar disastrous accident Mine unique experience mixer switches Ive heard other crashes similar Im beginner either Ive logged over 250 hours RC model pilot time last five half years See Nats' record Dougs notepaper features in-flight photograph A-scale Druine Turbulent offers plans Doug also offers plans OS2U Kingfisher powered two cu Quadra model ended up trees due ihe mixed-up mixer switch Time now go mow lawn Maybe should think about buying some sheep Have safe month John Preston 70/2 Elvira Ct Falls Church VA 22042 RC Aerobatics/Van Putte Continued page 45 donated hatful money contest nothing tried cured problem year decided attack foaming problem different way Besides putting much padding possible between tank fuselage adding antifoaming compound Dow Corning DB-l00 fuel placed old-style large Sullivan filters fuel line under neath engine theory small reservoir close engine would allow fuel stop foaming engine could draw nonfoaming fuel Apparently theory works because engine has running great ever since Now needle valve has some authority again feel comfortable adjusting engine just begins break two-cycle Just case larger reservoir turns out necessary also plan try Sullivan one-oz slantAugust 1983 163 Astounding not attainabie plastics.. very light weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete Portable power glow plugs fits shin pooket Using HeadlockTM adapter allows stay plug oat get iota propeller Rechargeable op 10119 times 511 day warracty No wore bulky batteries cables Order say NI-STARTFR either 115 2213 12 colt fast charger Instructions isoladed Also acailable charger See yaar deeler Order direct tram us visa ft Mastercard accepted Please specify type charger Add 51511 postage IUSAI NI-if L lilfo. $2195 NIHI-1E 225 o. $2195 NI-lILlA 120 adap $21ggNI-HL-1Nc Na charger $1295 laseeGleedandee Dr Iloredon VA221171 USA 79243551355 1/I Scale 11L5 @1/2 Scale S1O See Dealer add Used rAA Intercat Froina Sods Dollar direct order handling NyS Resideets acts % Sales tanI front tank later now filter works fine suspect fuel foaming might giving engine problems big filter works might answer problems too talking several top Masterclass fliers other lower-level fliers know engines has become clear using fuel low oil percentages using 15% oil few using 10% far cry 20 22% oil mixtures engine columnists have telling us necessary right dont know Perhaps part answer difference philosophy Master-class Pattern fliers generally know set up engines properly rarely get lean air often have mixture control alle viate lean needle valve setting other hand lean engine runs sport fliers uneommon engine columnists may trying protect fliers get lean runs destroying engines recommending oil content fuel actually necessary Id like someone really knows engines tell us straight story let us decide what oil per centage use about Before get off subject fuel Id like tell about recent experience FHS Red Max fuel 10 years made own home-brew fuel using 10% nitro methane 20% Klotz oil methanol nitro drum prices $1 000 e out home-brew market started getting drums identical mixture FHS Clover SC Since same fuel course ran just same home-brew ordered last drum fellow club member Ed Moorman AMA associate VP District 5 suggested try ing some Red Max 5% nitro fuel uses FHS synthetic oil lieu Klotz said very pleasant surprise would store Well didand hes right cant tell difference per formance fuel cheaper $2 gal lon appears have improved fuel economy 16-oz tank used almost empty end Pattern flight now has about four oz left Scottish-born 225239262282291299302 310mother would proud Ron Van Putre Ill Sleepy Oako Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 69 0 presented October 23-27 1983 pro 2 gram will feature hands-on workshops highly skilled craftsman have restored masterpieces National Air Space Museums collection For detailed information about unique j opportunity please contact Selected Studies A&I 1190 Smithsonian Institution Wash tngton DC 20560 call 202 57-2475 sf Send items Bill Boss 77-06 269th St - New Hyde Park NY J1040 No 415 Hawker Hurricane Mk I$1175 RC Electric-powered Sport Scale 15 motor 3-4 channels Two sheets No 416 Stunfire 60$700 CL Big 62-in span Stunter 60 power No 417 Sportwgon Jr$300 RC Rudder-only sport flier 02 power use pulse-proportional Ne 13142. Ba Medet V 40-poarneed AC stand-off scale ot ot great oldtone racers$500 No100511900 CL Stunt roodel McDonald amer 1976 1980 1962 FAt Wold Champs$375 No 22504 Retiable AC 70 version 35 old-tirrer REM controls 19 25 $421 Ne 230mIs. Bled AC Ken todlards lOrttation plane 4Ch 10 262Crasitweet CL Crash-prod trainer 2 ares 1530 3540 125 No 202Gee B. RC Granger Wilhans eragniliceol Model Z 40 engine $796 No 291Cap 20 40-powered scale AC 01 French aerobatic plane Low wing tail dragger 2 sheets $750 No200Ga Bee Se Spocistee AC r4scale hy HatIhe br 91 power Prototype span 309 212 sheets $1175 No 361Ussi F-tO AC Sarpotus 049 decled Ian sport lIner 2-cl Balsa wings Ito lose stroctsre$271 No 2901936 P154 Biplane AC Open Scale 35 40 4-cS Wrrs3spao 56 inn 1 6 scale Tao sheets$425 No 314Drake Its AC Kerr Widards 9prog boat tsr 3-cS 1 SpOwer Fly land mintS reorsoahle 9ear$371 No 320Taylm Cub AC Doe Srnll s Scheolpard-Scale 049s 2 3 CS Spans 50 inn $396 No 332Zeplsyc AC Small 2-CS glider hard-lasnch tow Iherreal slope soaring $300 No 343Wap Vt FF Mihe 51 s Nats-wrnninn9 Outdoor HLG$100 No 340Owetep AC Traroer Sas omy 10910159 Opirry quaSles 3-oh 10 25 power No 364Maclye AC l3ranrt 155-ins spot Saiplano uses 3 AC channels 6 No 396Pieces FF Indoor Easy B Nobber-power coetcst mincer W Van Corder$100 No 362Sneect AC Halt-A Pylon Macer spori Pier Arlerne eleontat control saw wm9$200 No 306SmaIac AC Wrtlards 40-erza tlyng boat 4-cS Slrap-on gnat landelane 2 shIs$1100 No 306Space Slttotlte II AC Larger itngtrooed cerston 01 lIon glider tsr 3-cs No271CAP-21 AC Grad-Scale ol Frartch aeohatrc crah spars 7145 Osadra power 2 sheets dec$1496 No 371Stcato-Stceait AC 04-loran oersron 01 Gararnss larnoan dl FF design lot TA power 2-ce$196 No 372NoigIerlon AC Low-winy tn-gear sportstcr power 4-cS. No 375SnapeIsop Tale AC Workhorse atrilty sped ship br twIn 35-4045 cS Foam wings lnfls 12 Sn 2 56th$1100 No 377WIgacaete CL Spert-Storaer tot Prohle lasela4e sireet wings Ilaps No 379Mc Speb NI AC Fly Sport Pylon Nor Spotisoran Patter, sheet spoO Uses 4-ch 25-40 per$500 No 371Mewebsee CL Catebal slrp ar lange 5994 sopor pertormen 1 No 380Whets Hawk 500 FF Hot Class AB Gas corottetiSon shrp tan 15-23 power Nats-wrerreg deorge137$ No 362Nary FIle FF Ausher-pomec sports 11w captures ISe Golden Age Ilanor Spans 26 $200 No 303CIIlel 02 AC Fly 5 sleek Nntn-wmntong Sailplane AMA Mod SId Unliroded classes$796 No 366Skeitac SIP AC Esans lawman desinge returns 60-sr Pattern plane Retracts loam wing$500 Ne 360Isaac 200 PC Sport Scale rpkica 01 championship Aerebalic Oier Uses 40 power 4-5 cM 2 Is$1075 No 309US Male AC Huge gentle-Sping brylane traIner sped Specs 80 nn 60 engine 3-cS Ton shin$1496 No 300iir Quickie CL Hats-warning Scale Racan HOT 15 power . $225 No 302Ctsetatoplsee AC Sport Scale peracrcitistt Two-cM set Soles no torso moons dm15 steer chole. $425 No 362tSA Klesd Kltsg AC Aedaced mederrinOed omase 01 1935 deugo Old Timer 3m 3 ch 6 No394PlaIn. 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Radio Control SPORT AEROBA TICS Ron Van Putte SNOWED UNDER column May 1983 issue request information Flat Top Stormer precipitated ava lanche information about Doug Spreng both versions Stormer Gene Mathis Daphne AL sent fat envelope stuffed data pictures Nick Zelinka Coral Gables FL sent thicker ma nila envelope pictures plans copy magazine contained original article also got letters over including ones Maurice Franklin Oceanside CA containing recent pictures Doug Spreng Flat Top Stormer Al Strickland Lake Havasu City AZ sent Dougs current address 163 Opos sum Dr Lake Havasu City AZ 86403 What caught attention based response request information about 20 r-old airplane design must bunch people interested era RC favorite columns Just Fun old pro Bill Winter Bills column always chock full memories love bit Appar ently lot us around Id like include pictures stories about old-time RC Pattern column now again will try use pictures stories can get please send anything think others might like see about RC Way Ill return submissions sent soon pictures negatives returned magazine staff start about pictures information Bob Dunham Ed Kazmirski Tom Brett Back situation hand what follows boiled-down version infor mation received Stormer quite few variations article original Stormer published April 1961 American Modeler magazine plans also available Hobby Helpers Group Plan 562 Unfortunately far know Hobby Helpers out business plans also available John Pond Old Time Plan Service PO Box 3215 San Jose CA 95156 Flat Top Stormer available either 60-in 64-in wing tips 44 Model Aviation Twenty years ago Bob Dunnam flows Ed Kazmirskis modified Taurus Californias Mile Square flying site radio Ed holding probably prototype Orbit analog proportional set Taurus originally flew 12-channel reeds Photo Nicholas Zelinka Coral Gables FL Nick Zelinka son Frank Veco 45-powered Flat Top Stormer Look size transmitter foreground Its 12-ch Kraft set Photo N Zelinka 1g63 Doug Spreng designer Stormer holds Maurice Franklins tail-dragger Flat Top Stormer Camp Pendleton CA Doug wound up taking plane home after flying session add another six span powered Lee Veco 45 would cost lot cash days stabilizer could built rectangular tapered Maurice Franklin built few years ago installed K&B 40 claims fine barnstorming airplane weighing 5/2 lb made mistake letting Doug Spreng fly Camp Pen dleton Oceanside CA flying field Spreng went home airplane Mau rice also built another Flat Top Stormer installed OS 60 four-cycle engine flew fine until OS replaced Redshift 61/tuned-pipe combination airplane became rocketuntil came apart air Apparently stressed kind power feels would sell like mad anyone kitted based responses received hes probably right last two years ever since finishing new Phoenix 8 contest flying has frustrated bad engine runs tried thing figure out what causing engine overheat run lean Com pounding situation several con tributors problem primary cause Originally appeared problem caused foaming fuel bad card favorite glow plugs fuel pump leaked air some bad main bearings two engines confused problem made take long get back real causefuel foaming Fuel foaming sneaky problem very difficult get rid engines use RC Pattern cause much vibration fuel foams must use large fuel tanks because piped engines drink much fuel makes tanks tight fit nose fuselage little room left padding isolate tank vi bration Fuel pumps dont work well foaming fuel engines like less typical flight starts out like nothing wrong followed gradual leaning out overheating engine two years unusual complete Pattern flight least excuse doing poorly contests wanted fly pattern beaten better pilotsnot pilots engines ran got bad group Pattern fliers 1982 Pensacola FL Fiesta Five Flags Contest took up collection buy new engine sure engine wasnt fault Continued page 163 10181jJlng P~B ~ln9 i/ 10y4•f yjltlO 60 8 lbS i uW aeObat~ourstrOWe pare0j tve reW erioS idea got per 60 cU60 oU vte aIW 50 YJ jerV6 oO 8orW r aVCe TteIpvrl3i COSIgn 1ci DASOI CBse COrP SStj0ra 619 72A August 1983 45 Gene Mathis self-proclaimed worlds foremost Stormer fan took picture 1963shows Stormer Taurus Gene Daphne AL always has Stormer flying condition ~jln9 p0sjgneaTbYf 5port BIPI8fl 00A052 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX AMA Membership55 AceRClnc47 Aero Tech RC150 Air Design84 Airtronics2 Phase Art144 American RC Helicopters141 Americas Hobby Center25 Astro Flight54 Balsa USA6-7 Bavarian Precision Products158 Behrens Plan Service160 Dave Brown Products76 Bru Line Industries84 Byron Originals4351 Carlberg Companies136 Carolina-Taffinder162 Johnnie Casburn Mfg23 Chaiies RC Goodies84 Circus Hobbles94-100 Cleveland Model & Supply153 Eric Clutton153 Condor Hobbies137 Consumers Guide RC Aircraft Prod. Consumers Hobby Corp156-157 Coverite162 DA Enterprises D&D Engineering DG Products DGA Designs 0GM Industries Detroit Expo Dougs Hobby Shop ro Products Dynathrust Props Addis Elmore Fab-Tek Inc FAI Model Supply FHS Supply Flite Line Products Flyline Models 16 144 160 163 155 18-19 26 - 148 145 140 151 - 10 161 159 4 11 142-143 154 9 150 77 133 69 Fourmost Products69 Fox Mfg Co145 Full Command Systems37 Futaba Corp America29 Gator RC Products158 Carl Goldberg Models159 Gorham Model Products14 Great Lakes Model & Mold Co16 Great Planes Mod Mfg CoInside Front Cover Grish Brothers140 Art Gross Enterprises159 Hardware Systems Historic Aviation Hobby Barn Hobby Horn Hobby Lobby International Hobby Radio Shop Hobby Shack Horizon Model Crafts Hotel Harrington indy RC Sales J-5 Enterprises Hi Johnson Model Products K&B Manufacturing Co K&S Engineering Kraft Systems Kustom Kraftsmanship Leisure Electronics Lone Star Models MACS Products152 Majestic Models150 McDaniel RC Service163 Jim Messers Quality Model Products Midwest Products85 Mills Airplane Models76 Miniature Aircraft Supply149 Model Rectifier Corp side Back Cover Mutchiers Hobbies146-147 Nor-Cal Avionics37 159 151 45 145 152 155 Ohio Superstar P Productions P&G Metal Products Pacer Technology & Resources Pacific Air Pica Products Polks Hobby RC Kits Mfg RF Enterprises RJL Industries RLF Products Radio South Repla-Tech International Richardson Precision Machining Robbe Modelisport Norm Rosenstock Roush Mfg Co 28 154 137 17 144 15 27 69 85 94 136 - 137 155 140 134-135 137 - 49 51 148 155 93 28 13 148 14 162 160 154 54 158 24 1 153 SR Batteries S&W Hobby Supply Co Saf-Flite Models 138-139 Satellite City Sheldons Hobby Shop 54 Sig Manufacturing Co 76 Sonic-Tronics Squadron-Signal Publications St Croix Park Falls Ltd Swanson Associates T&D Fiberglass Tatone Products Taylor-Craft Ltd Tide Distributors Inc Top Flite Models Tower Hobbies WE Technical Services136 Williams Brothers4 Windsor Propeller Co8 World EnginesBack Cover Xplorer Enterprises51 Zenith Aviation Books5 Nick Ziroli Models10 152 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX tion other two positions straight up offno mixing Rudder/Aileron Neither positions will get trouble Rudder/Elevator mix gives Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder Down Elevator Down Elevator Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder understand iis V-tailed aircraft doesnt belong its present exposed position fix Ive glued hardwood wedge switch using CyA glue cannot moved Rudder/Elevator position 1 hope will save others simi lar disastrous accident Mine unique experience mixer switches Ive heard other crashes similar Im beginner either Ive logged over 250 hours RC model pilot time last five half years See Nats' record Dougs notepaper features in-flight photograph A-scale Druine Turbulent offers plans Doug also offers plans OS2U Kingfisher powered two cu Quadra model ended up trees due ihe mixed-up mixer switch Time now go mow lawn Maybe should think about buying some sheep Have safe month John Preston 70/2 Elvira Ct Falls Church VA 22042 RC Aerobatics/Van Putte Continued page 45 donated hatful money contest nothing tried cured problem year decided attack foaming problem different way Besides putting much padding possible between tank fuselage adding antifoaming compound Dow Corning DB-l00 fuel placed old-style large Sullivan filters fuel line under neath engine theory small reservoir close engine would allow fuel stop foaming engine could draw nonfoaming fuel Apparently theory works because engine has running great ever since Now needle valve has some authority again feel comfortable adjusting engine just begins break two-cycle Just case larger reservoir turns out necessary also plan try Sullivan one-oz slantAugust 1983 163 Astounding not attainabie plastics.. very light weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete Portable power glow plugs fits shin pooket Using HeadlockTM adapter allows stay plug oat get iota propeller Rechargeable op 10119 times 511 day warracty No wore bulky batteries cables Order say NI-STARTFR either 115 2213 12 colt fast charger Instructions isoladed Also acailable charger See yaar deeler Order direct tram us visa ft Mastercard accepted Please specify type charger Add 51511 postage IUSAI NI-if L lilfo. $2195 NIHI-1E 225 o. $2195 NI-lILlA 120 adap $21ggNI-HL-1Nc Na charger $1295 laseeGleedandee Dr Iloredon VA221171 USA 79243551355 1/I Scale 11L5 @1/2 Scale S1O See Dealer add Used rAA Intercat Froina Sods Dollar direct order handling NyS Resideets acts % Sales tanI front tank later now filter works fine suspect fuel foaming might giving engine problems big filter works might answer problems too talking several top Masterclass fliers other lower-level fliers know engines has become clear using fuel low oil percentages using 15% oil few using 10% far cry 20 22% oil mixtures engine columnists have telling us necessary right dont know Perhaps part answer difference philosophy Master-class Pattern fliers generally know set up engines properly rarely get lean air often have mixture control alle viate lean needle valve setting other hand lean engine runs sport fliers uneommon engine columnists may trying protect fliers get lean runs destroying engines recommending oil content fuel actually necessary Id like someone really knows engines tell us straight story let us decide what oil per centage use about Before get off subject fuel Id like tell about recent experience FHS Red Max fuel 10 years made own home-brew fuel using 10% nitro methane 20% Klotz oil methanol nitro drum prices $1 000 e out home-brew market started getting drums identical mixture FHS Clover SC Since same fuel course ran just same home-brew ordered last drum fellow club member Ed Moorman AMA associate VP District 5 suggested try ing some Red Max 5% nitro fuel uses FHS synthetic oil lieu Klotz said very pleasant surprise would store Well didand hes right cant tell difference per formance fuel cheaper $2 gal lon appears have improved fuel economy 16-oz tank used almost empty end Pattern flight now has about four oz left Scottish-born 225239262282291299302 310mother would proud Ron Van Putre Ill Sleepy Oako Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 69 0 presented October 23-27 1983 pro 2 gram will feature hands-on workshops highly skilled craftsman have restored masterpieces National Air Space Museums collection For detailed information about unique j opportunity please contact Selected Studies A&I 1190 Smithsonian Institution Wash tngton DC 20560 call 202 57-2475 sf Send items Bill Boss 77-06 269th St - New Hyde Park NY J1040 No 415 Hawker Hurricane Mk I$1175 RC Electric-powered Sport Scale 15 motor 3-4 channels Two sheets No 416 Stunfire 60$700 CL Big 62-in span Stunter 60 power No 417 Sportwgon Jr$300 RC Rudder-only sport flier 02 power use pulse-proportional Ne 13142. Ba Medet V 40-poarneed AC stand-off scale ot ot great oldtone racers$500 No100511900 CL Stunt roodel McDonald amer 1976 1980 1962 FAt Wold Champs$375 No 22504 Retiable AC 70 version 35 old-tirrer REM controls 19 25 $421 Ne 230mIs. Bled AC Ken todlards lOrttation plane 4Ch 10 262Crasitweet CL Crash-prod trainer 2 ares 1530 3540 125 No 202Gee B. RC Granger Wilhans eragniliceol Model Z 40 engine $796 No 291Cap 20 40-powered scale AC 01 French aerobatic plane Low wing tail dragger 2 sheets $750 No200Ga Bee Se Spocistee AC r4scale hy HatIhe br 91 power Prototype span 309 212 sheets $1175 No 361Ussi F-tO AC Sarpotus 049 decled Ian sport lIner 2-cl Balsa wings Ito lose stroctsre$271 No 2901936 P154 Biplane AC Open Scale 35 40 4-cS Wrrs3spao 56 inn 1 6 scale Tao sheets$425 No 314Drake Its AC Kerr Widards 9prog boat tsr 3-cS 1 SpOwer Fly land mintS reorsoahle 9ear$371 No 320Taylm Cub AC Doe Srnll s Scheolpard-Scale 049s 2 3 CS Spans 50 inn $396 No 332Zeplsyc AC Small 2-CS glider hard-lasnch tow Iherreal slope soaring $300 No 343Wap Vt FF Mihe 51 s Nats-wrnninn9 Outdoor HLG$100 No 340Owetep AC Traroer Sas omy 10910159 Opirry quaSles 3-oh 10 25 power No 364Maclye AC l3ranrt 155-ins spot Saiplano uses 3 AC channels 6 No 396Pieces FF Indoor Easy B Nobber-power coetcst mincer W Van Corder$100 No 362Sneect AC Halt-A Pylon Macer spori Pier Arlerne eleontat control saw wm9$200 No 306SmaIac AC Wrtlards 40-erza tlyng boat 4-cS Slrap-on gnat landelane 2 shIs$1100 No 306Space Slttotlte II AC Larger itngtrooed cerston 01 lIon glider tsr 3-cs No271CAP-21 AC Grad-Scale ol Frartch aeohatrc crah spars 7145 Osadra power 2 sheets dec$1496 No 371Stcato-Stceait AC 04-loran oersron 01 Gararnss larnoan dl FF design lot TA power 2-ce$196 No 372NoigIerlon AC Low-winy tn-gear sportstcr power 4-cS. No 375SnapeIsop Tale AC Workhorse atrilty sped ship br twIn 35-4045 cS Foam wings lnfls 12 Sn 2 56th$1100 No 377WIgacaete CL Spert-Storaer tot Prohle lasela4e sireet wings Ilaps No 379Mc Speb NI AC Fly Sport Pylon Nor Spotisoran Patter, sheet spoO Uses 4-ch 25-40 per$500 No 371Mewebsee CL Catebal slrp ar lange 5994 sopor pertormen 1 No 380Whets Hawk 500 FF Hot Class AB Gas corottetiSon shrp tan 15-23 power Nats-wrerreg deorge137$ No 362Nary FIle FF Ausher-pomec sports 11w captures ISe Golden Age Ilanor Spans 26 $200 No 303CIIlel 02 AC Fly 5 sleek Nntn-wmntong Sailplane AMA Mod SId Unliroded classes$796 No 366Skeitac SIP AC Esans lawman desinge returns 60-sr Pattern plane Retracts loam wing$500 Ne 360Isaac 200 PC Sport Scale rpkica 01 championship Aerebalic Oier Uses 40 power 4-5 cM 2 Is$1075 No 309US Male AC Huge gentle-Sping brylane traIner sped Specs 80 nn 60 engine 3-cS Ton shin$1496 No 300iir Quickie CL Hats-warning Scale Racan HOT 15 power . $225 No 302Ctsetatoplsee AC Sport Scale peracrcitistt Two-cM set Soles no torso moons dm15 steer chole. $425 No 362tSA Klesd Kltsg AC Aedaced mederrinOed omase 01 1935 deugo Old Timer 3m 3 ch 6 No394PlaIn. Crow H FF HIgh-pedorerance Outdoor Hand Laanched Glider .. $175 No366Offy Baby CL Racer Mouse Scale Plass storm Coo Black Wrdoa Spans t8 5-la 175 No 396Lee-RicIseed PP Electrtc-powored 520 Scale ol ring-wing 0565 05 No 397BeN PPM-I Aleacsda CL SpotS Scale protde horn lor pusher rend-calse 049s 0325 No 306Ga Bee B-i AC Hattkes steal 14-scale spans 75 inn weighs 15 lb $es 90 larger Four slrts no doc$2225 $47S No 396 ZapIcy 1100 AC AMA Clana S SaIlplane tsr 3-channel AC goat No 406Mall-Stow CL Rat-Race-style Stunt trainer 30-power Protrle$500 No 461ROyal Lance PP Basic compeldise model AMA Class Asses stasdard-pedormanctt 15 engems$596 No 400ApaFF tombs Rubber Scale 01 Armstrneg-Whitwodh research biplane trom mrd-Twnnbes$475 No 403Cab Fboalplarse AC Sport Scale tsr 049-10-size engams 4-cS AC 1-3 Iloats rca class$056 No 404Pocke-wuIl ISO CL PridrIe Scale ton power leaturec unique engine mosnt tsr realism . $200 No 405Regent Queen lIre SkIes AC Fan-tape biplane tsr 40- 60 power 4-channels 2 sheets$1350 No 456 Piper Coasanche CL Sport Scale sans hen 25s tInoOle control 2 sheets $425 $425 No 407 fleeIng XF50-1 AC Sport Scale br pemer 2-3 channels $450 No 406 No-Vol-Er AC electec-pewar sport Ore 2-channel 05 motor 09 Fokker Ople Itt PF Scale 01 early monoplane trainan lot 049 power Three sheets plus dOcomentatrOn $420 No 41$PabSt Pixie AC Scale 01 lactose EAA plane tot 40 power 4 ch Build sport Preciseet2 shI dac $1356 No411Hutton Bag CL CO-2-powered Stunter br ledoor Ilyreg 00 short lines $175 No 412MosquIto AC Sped Scale twie 505 tO engines 4 ch AC 25 No413Boneora CL Prolile tue-scale StarrIer lot lb 25 engines Has laps tn-gear V tail 5325 No 414ElectrIc Sparkp AC eleorric-pewered tue titer 1005 motor 3-cS AC scaled-op t939 rubberpower duorite D131193 1314326 370371 -u fl NAME STREET - I CITY STATE - tat. Circle numbers plans wish order 385386389 398399400 408409410 332343348354358362365368 372375377378379380382383 390392393394395396 401402403404405406 397 407 411412413414415416 417 Price includes firSt-clasS postage Send check money order payable Model Aviation AMA 1810 Samuel Morse Dr ResiGn VA 22090 Please print carefully Enclosed $ ZIP 164 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1983/08
Page Numbers: 44, 45, 163, 164
Radio Control SPORT AEROBA TICS Ron Van Putte SNOWED UNDER column May 1983 issue request information Flat Top Stormer precipitated ava lanche information about Doug Spreng both versions Stormer Gene Mathis Daphne AL sent fat envelope stuffed data pictures Nick Zelinka Coral Gables FL sent thicker ma nila envelope pictures plans copy magazine contained original article also got letters over including ones Maurice Franklin Oceanside CA containing recent pictures Doug Spreng Flat Top Stormer Al Strickland Lake Havasu City AZ sent Dougs current address 163 Opos sum Dr Lake Havasu City AZ 86403 What caught attention based response request information about 20 r-old airplane design must bunch people interested era RC favorite columns Just Fun old pro Bill Winter Bills column always chock full memories love bit Appar ently lot us around Id like include pictures stories about old-time RC Pattern column now again will try use pictures stories can get please send anything think others might like see about RC Way Ill return submissions sent soon pictures negatives returned magazine staff start about pictures information Bob Dunham Ed Kazmirski Tom Brett Back situation hand what follows boiled-down version infor mation received Stormer quite few variations article original Stormer published April 1961 American Modeler magazine plans also available Hobby Helpers Group Plan 562 Unfortunately far know Hobby Helpers out business plans also available John Pond Old Time Plan Service PO Box 3215 San Jose CA 95156 Flat Top Stormer available either 60-in 64-in wing tips 44 Model Aviation Twenty years ago Bob Dunnam flows Ed Kazmirskis modified Taurus Californias Mile Square flying site radio Ed holding probably prototype Orbit analog proportional set Taurus originally flew 12-channel reeds Photo Nicholas Zelinka Coral Gables FL Nick Zelinka son Frank Veco 45-powered Flat Top Stormer Look size transmitter foreground Its 12-ch Kraft set Photo N Zelinka 1g63 Doug Spreng designer Stormer holds Maurice Franklins tail-dragger Flat Top Stormer Camp Pendleton CA Doug wound up taking plane home after flying session add another six span powered Lee Veco 45 would cost lot cash days stabilizer could built rectangular tapered Maurice Franklin built few years ago installed K&B 40 claims fine barnstorming airplane weighing 5/2 lb made mistake letting Doug Spreng fly Camp Pen dleton Oceanside CA flying field Spreng went home airplane Mau rice also built another Flat Top Stormer installed OS 60 four-cycle engine flew fine until OS replaced Redshift 61/tuned-pipe combination airplane became rocketuntil came apart air Apparently stressed kind power feels would sell like mad anyone kitted based responses received hes probably right last two years ever since finishing new Phoenix 8 contest flying has frustrated bad engine runs tried thing figure out what causing engine overheat run lean Com pounding situation several con tributors problem primary cause Originally appeared problem caused foaming fuel bad card favorite glow plugs fuel pump leaked air some bad main bearings two engines confused problem made take long get back real causefuel foaming Fuel foaming sneaky problem very difficult get rid engines use RC Pattern cause much vibration fuel foams must use large fuel tanks because piped engines drink much fuel makes tanks tight fit nose fuselage little room left padding isolate tank vi bration Fuel pumps dont work well foaming fuel engines like less typical flight starts out like nothing wrong followed gradual leaning out overheating engine two years unusual complete Pattern flight least excuse doing poorly contests wanted fly pattern beaten better pilotsnot pilots engines ran got bad group Pattern fliers 1982 Pensacola FL Fiesta Five Flags Contest took up collection buy new engine sure engine wasnt fault Continued page 163 10181jJlng P~B ~ln9 i/ 10y4•f yjltlO 60 8 lbS i uW aeObat~ourstrOWe pare0j tve reW erioS idea got per 60 cU60 oU vte aIW 50 YJ jerV6 oO 8orW r aVCe TteIpvrl3i COSIgn 1ci DASOI CBse COrP SStj0ra 619 72A August 1983 45 Gene Mathis self-proclaimed worlds foremost Stormer fan took picture 1963shows Stormer Taurus Gene Daphne AL always has Stormer flying condition ~jln9 p0sjgneaTbYf 5port BIPI8fl 00A052 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX AMA Membership55 AceRClnc47 Aero Tech RC150 Air Design84 Airtronics2 Phase Art144 American RC Helicopters141 Americas Hobby Center25 Astro Flight54 Balsa USA6-7 Bavarian Precision Products158 Behrens Plan Service160 Dave Brown Products76 Bru Line Industries84 Byron Originals4351 Carlberg Companies136 Carolina-Taffinder162 Johnnie Casburn Mfg23 Chaiies RC Goodies84 Circus Hobbles94-100 Cleveland Model & Supply153 Eric Clutton153 Condor Hobbies137 Consumers Guide RC Aircraft Prod. Consumers Hobby Corp156-157 Coverite162 DA Enterprises D&D Engineering DG Products DGA Designs 0GM Industries Detroit Expo Dougs Hobby Shop ro Products Dynathrust Props Addis Elmore Fab-Tek Inc FAI Model Supply FHS Supply Flite Line Products Flyline Models 16 144 160 163 155 18-19 26 - 148 145 140 151 - 10 161 159 4 11 142-143 154 9 150 77 133 69 Fourmost Products69 Fox Mfg Co145 Full Command Systems37 Futaba Corp America29 Gator RC Products158 Carl Goldberg Models159 Gorham Model Products14 Great Lakes Model & Mold Co16 Great Planes Mod Mfg CoInside Front Cover Grish Brothers140 Art Gross Enterprises159 Hardware Systems Historic Aviation Hobby Barn Hobby Horn Hobby Lobby International Hobby Radio Shop Hobby Shack Horizon Model Crafts Hotel Harrington indy RC Sales J-5 Enterprises Hi Johnson Model Products K&B Manufacturing Co K&S Engineering Kraft Systems Kustom Kraftsmanship Leisure Electronics Lone Star Models MACS Products152 Majestic Models150 McDaniel RC Service163 Jim Messers Quality Model Products Midwest Products85 Mills Airplane Models76 Miniature Aircraft Supply149 Model Rectifier Corp side Back Cover Mutchiers Hobbies146-147 Nor-Cal Avionics37 159 151 45 145 152 155 Ohio Superstar P Productions P&G Metal Products Pacer Technology & Resources Pacific Air Pica Products Polks Hobby RC Kits Mfg RF Enterprises RJL Industries RLF Products Radio South Repla-Tech International Richardson Precision Machining Robbe Modelisport Norm Rosenstock Roush Mfg Co 28 154 137 17 144 15 27 69 85 94 136 - 137 155 140 134-135 137 - 49 51 148 155 93 28 13 148 14 162 160 154 54 158 24 1 153 SR Batteries S&W Hobby Supply Co Saf-Flite Models 138-139 Satellite City Sheldons Hobby Shop 54 Sig Manufacturing Co 76 Sonic-Tronics Squadron-Signal Publications St Croix Park Falls Ltd Swanson Associates T&D Fiberglass Tatone Products Taylor-Craft Ltd Tide Distributors Inc Top Flite Models Tower Hobbies WE Technical Services136 Williams Brothers4 Windsor Propeller Co8 World EnginesBack Cover Xplorer Enterprises51 Zenith Aviation Books5 Nick Ziroli Models10 152 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX tion other two positions straight up offno mixing Rudder/Aileron Neither positions will get trouble Rudder/Elevator mix gives Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder Down Elevator Down Elevator Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder understand iis V-tailed aircraft doesnt belong its present exposed position fix Ive glued hardwood wedge switch using CyA glue cannot moved Rudder/Elevator position 1 hope will save others simi lar disastrous accident Mine unique experience mixer switches Ive heard other crashes similar Im beginner either Ive logged over 250 hours RC model pilot time last five half years See Nats' record Dougs notepaper features in-flight photograph A-scale Druine Turbulent offers plans Doug also offers plans OS2U Kingfisher powered two cu Quadra model ended up trees due ihe mixed-up mixer switch Time now go mow lawn Maybe should think about buying some sheep Have safe month John Preston 70/2 Elvira Ct Falls Church VA 22042 RC Aerobatics/Van Putte Continued page 45 donated hatful money contest nothing tried cured problem year decided attack foaming problem different way Besides putting much padding possible between tank fuselage adding antifoaming compound Dow Corning DB-l00 fuel placed old-style large Sullivan filters fuel line under neath engine theory small reservoir close engine would allow fuel stop foaming engine could draw nonfoaming fuel Apparently theory works because engine has running great ever since Now needle valve has some authority again feel comfortable adjusting engine just begins break two-cycle Just case larger reservoir turns out necessary also plan try Sullivan one-oz slantAugust 1983 163 Astounding not attainabie plastics.. very light weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete Portable power glow plugs fits shin pooket Using HeadlockTM adapter allows stay plug oat get iota propeller Rechargeable op 10119 times 511 day warracty No wore bulky batteries cables Order say NI-STARTFR either 115 2213 12 colt fast charger Instructions isoladed Also acailable charger See yaar deeler Order direct tram us visa ft Mastercard accepted Please specify type charger Add 51511 postage IUSAI NI-if L lilfo. $2195 NIHI-1E 225 o. $2195 NI-lILlA 120 adap $21ggNI-HL-1Nc Na charger $1295 laseeGleedandee Dr Iloredon VA221171 USA 79243551355 1/I Scale 11L5 @1/2 Scale S1O See Dealer add Used rAA Intercat Froina Sods Dollar direct order handling NyS Resideets acts % Sales tanI front tank later now filter works fine suspect fuel foaming might giving engine problems big filter works might answer problems too talking several top Masterclass fliers other lower-level fliers know engines has become clear using fuel low oil percentages using 15% oil few using 10% far cry 20 22% oil mixtures engine columnists have telling us necessary right dont know Perhaps part answer difference philosophy Master-class Pattern fliers generally know set up engines properly rarely get lean air often have mixture control alle viate lean needle valve setting other hand lean engine runs sport fliers uneommon engine columnists may trying protect fliers get lean runs destroying engines recommending oil content fuel actually necessary Id like someone really knows engines tell us straight story let us decide what oil per centage use about Before get off subject fuel Id like tell about recent experience FHS Red Max fuel 10 years made own home-brew fuel using 10% nitro methane 20% Klotz oil methanol nitro drum prices $1 000 e out home-brew market started getting drums identical mixture FHS Clover SC Since same fuel course ran just same home-brew ordered last drum fellow club member Ed Moorman AMA associate VP District 5 suggested try ing some Red Max 5% nitro fuel uses FHS synthetic oil lieu Klotz said very pleasant surprise would store Well didand hes right cant tell difference per formance fuel cheaper $2 gal lon appears have improved fuel economy 16-oz tank used almost empty end Pattern flight now has about four oz left Scottish-born 225239262282291299302 310mother would proud Ron Van Putre Ill Sleepy Oako Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 69 0 presented October 23-27 1983 pro 2 gram will feature hands-on workshops highly skilled craftsman have restored masterpieces National Air Space Museums collection For detailed information about unique j opportunity please contact Selected Studies A&I 1190 Smithsonian Institution Wash tngton DC 20560 call 202 57-2475 sf Send items Bill Boss 77-06 269th St - New Hyde Park NY J1040 No 415 Hawker Hurricane Mk I$1175 RC Electric-powered Sport Scale 15 motor 3-4 channels Two sheets No 416 Stunfire 60$700 CL Big 62-in span Stunter 60 power No 417 Sportwgon Jr$300 RC Rudder-only sport flier 02 power use pulse-proportional Ne 13142. Ba Medet V 40-poarneed AC stand-off scale ot ot great oldtone racers$500 No100511900 CL Stunt roodel McDonald amer 1976 1980 1962 FAt Wold Champs$375 No 22504 Retiable AC 70 version 35 old-tirrer REM controls 19 25 $421 Ne 230mIs. Bled AC Ken todlards lOrttation plane 4Ch 10 262Crasitweet CL Crash-prod trainer 2 ares 1530 3540 125 No 202Gee B. RC Granger Wilhans eragniliceol Model Z 40 engine $796 No 291Cap 20 40-powered scale AC 01 French aerobatic plane Low wing tail dragger 2 sheets $750 No200Ga Bee Se Spocistee AC r4scale hy HatIhe br 91 power Prototype span 309 212 sheets $1175 No 361Ussi F-tO AC Sarpotus 049 decled Ian sport lIner 2-cl Balsa wings Ito lose stroctsre$271 No 2901936 P154 Biplane AC Open Scale 35 40 4-cS Wrrs3spao 56 inn 1 6 scale Tao sheets$425 No 314Drake Its AC Kerr Widards 9prog boat tsr 3-cS 1 SpOwer Fly land mintS reorsoahle 9ear$371 No 320Taylm Cub AC Doe Srnll s Scheolpard-Scale 049s 2 3 CS Spans 50 inn $396 No 332Zeplsyc AC Small 2-CS glider hard-lasnch tow Iherreal slope soaring $300 No 343Wap Vt FF Mihe 51 s Nats-wrnninn9 Outdoor HLG$100 No 340Owetep AC Traroer Sas omy 10910159 Opirry quaSles 3-oh 10 25 power No 364Maclye AC l3ranrt 155-ins spot Saiplano uses 3 AC channels 6 No 396Pieces FF Indoor Easy B Nobber-power coetcst mincer W Van Corder$100 No 362Sneect AC Halt-A Pylon Macer spori Pier Arlerne eleontat control saw wm9$200 No 306SmaIac AC Wrtlards 40-erza tlyng boat 4-cS Slrap-on gnat landelane 2 shIs$1100 No 306Space Slttotlte II AC Larger itngtrooed cerston 01 lIon glider tsr 3-cs No271CAP-21 AC Grad-Scale ol Frartch aeohatrc crah spars 7145 Osadra power 2 sheets dec$1496 No 371Stcato-Stceait AC 04-loran oersron 01 Gararnss larnoan dl FF design lot TA power 2-ce$196 No 372NoigIerlon AC Low-winy tn-gear sportstcr power 4-cS. No 375SnapeIsop Tale AC Workhorse atrilty sped ship br twIn 35-4045 cS Foam wings lnfls 12 Sn 2 56th$1100 No 377WIgacaete CL Spert-Storaer tot Prohle lasela4e sireet wings Ilaps No 379Mc Speb NI AC Fly Sport Pylon Nor Spotisoran Patter, sheet spoO Uses 4-ch 25-40 per$500 No 371Mewebsee CL Catebal slrp ar lange 5994 sopor pertormen 1 No 380Whets Hawk 500 FF Hot Class AB Gas corottetiSon shrp tan 15-23 power Nats-wrerreg deorge137$ No 362Nary FIle FF Ausher-pomec sports 11w captures ISe Golden Age Ilanor Spans 26 $200 No 303CIIlel 02 AC Fly 5 sleek Nntn-wmntong Sailplane AMA Mod SId Unliroded classes$796 No 366Skeitac SIP AC Esans lawman desinge returns 60-sr Pattern plane Retracts loam wing$500 Ne 360Isaac 200 PC Sport Scale rpkica 01 championship Aerebalic Oier Uses 40 power 4-5 cM 2 Is$1075 No 309US Male AC Huge gentle-Sping brylane traIner sped Specs 80 nn 60 engine 3-cS Ton shin$1496 No 300iir Quickie CL Hats-warning Scale Racan HOT 15 power . $225 No 302Ctsetatoplsee AC Sport Scale peracrcitistt Two-cM set Soles no torso moons dm15 steer chole. $425 No 362tSA Klesd Kltsg AC Aedaced mederrinOed omase 01 1935 deugo Old Timer 3m 3 ch 6 No394PlaIn. Crow H FF HIgh-pedorerance Outdoor Hand Laanched Glider .. $175 No366Offy Baby CL Racer Mouse Scale Plass storm Coo Black Wrdoa Spans t8 5-la 175 No 396Lee-RicIseed PP Electrtc-powored 520 Scale ol ring-wing 0565 05 No 397BeN PPM-I Aleacsda CL SpotS Scale protde horn lor pusher rend-calse 049s 0325 No 306Ga Bee B-i AC Hattkes steal 14-scale spans 75 inn weighs 15 lb $es 90 larger Four slrts no doc$2225 $47S No 396 ZapIcy 1100 AC AMA Clana S SaIlplane tsr 3-channel AC goat No 406Mall-Stow CL Rat-Race-style Stunt trainer 30-power Protrle$500 No 461ROyal Lance PP Basic compeldise model AMA Class Asses stasdard-pedormanctt 15 engems$596 No 400ApaFF tombs Rubber Scale 01 Armstrneg-Whitwodh research biplane trom mrd-Twnnbes$475 No 403Cab Fboalplarse AC Sport Scale tsr 049-10-size engams 4-cS AC 1-3 Iloats rca class$056 No 404Pocke-wuIl ISO CL PridrIe Scale ton power leaturec unique engine mosnt tsr realism . $200 No 405Regent Queen lIre SkIes AC Fan-tape biplane tsr 40- 60 power 4-channels 2 sheets$1350 No 456 Piper Coasanche CL Sport Scale sans hen 25s tInoOle control 2 sheets $425 $425 No 407 fleeIng XF50-1 AC Sport Scale br pemer 2-3 channels $450 No 406 No-Vol-Er AC electec-pewar sport Ore 2-channel 05 motor 09 Fokker Ople Itt PF Scale 01 early monoplane trainan lot 049 power Three sheets plus dOcomentatrOn $420 No 41$PabSt Pixie AC Scale 01 lactose EAA plane tot 40 power 4 ch Build sport Preciseet2 shI dac $1356 No411Hutton Bag CL CO-2-powered Stunter br ledoor Ilyreg 00 short lines $175 No 412MosquIto AC Sped Scale twie 505 tO engines 4 ch AC 25 No413Boneora CL Prolile tue-scale StarrIer lot lb 25 engines Has laps tn-gear V tail 5325 No 414ElectrIc Sparkp AC eleorric-pewered tue titer 1005 motor 3-cS AC scaled-op t939 rubberpower duorite D131193 1314326 370371 -u fl NAME STREET - I CITY STATE - tat. Circle numbers plans wish order 385386389 398399400 408409410 332343348354358362365368 372375377378379380382383 390392393394395396 401402403404405406 397 407 411412413414415416 417 Price includes firSt-clasS postage Send check money order payable Model Aviation AMA 1810 Samuel Morse Dr ResiGn VA 22090 Please print carefully Enclosed $ ZIP 164 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1983/08
Page Numbers: 44, 45, 163, 164
Radio Control SPORT AEROBA TICS Ron Van Putte SNOWED UNDER column May 1983 issue request information Flat Top Stormer precipitated ava lanche information about Doug Spreng both versions Stormer Gene Mathis Daphne AL sent fat envelope stuffed data pictures Nick Zelinka Coral Gables FL sent thicker ma nila envelope pictures plans copy magazine contained original article also got letters over including ones Maurice Franklin Oceanside CA containing recent pictures Doug Spreng Flat Top Stormer Al Strickland Lake Havasu City AZ sent Dougs current address 163 Opos sum Dr Lake Havasu City AZ 86403 What caught attention based response request information about 20 r-old airplane design must bunch people interested era RC favorite columns Just Fun old pro Bill Winter Bills column always chock full memories love bit Appar ently lot us around Id like include pictures stories about old-time RC Pattern column now again will try use pictures stories can get please send anything think others might like see about RC Way Ill return submissions sent soon pictures negatives returned magazine staff start about pictures information Bob Dunham Ed Kazmirski Tom Brett Back situation hand what follows boiled-down version infor mation received Stormer quite few variations article original Stormer published April 1961 American Modeler magazine plans also available Hobby Helpers Group Plan 562 Unfortunately far know Hobby Helpers out business plans also available John Pond Old Time Plan Service PO Box 3215 San Jose CA 95156 Flat Top Stormer available either 60-in 64-in wing tips 44 Model Aviation Twenty years ago Bob Dunnam flows Ed Kazmirskis modified Taurus Californias Mile Square flying site radio Ed holding probably prototype Orbit analog proportional set Taurus originally flew 12-channel reeds Photo Nicholas Zelinka Coral Gables FL Nick Zelinka son Frank Veco 45-powered Flat Top Stormer Look size transmitter foreground Its 12-ch Kraft set Photo N Zelinka 1g63 Doug Spreng designer Stormer holds Maurice Franklins tail-dragger Flat Top Stormer Camp Pendleton CA Doug wound up taking plane home after flying session add another six span powered Lee Veco 45 would cost lot cash days stabilizer could built rectangular tapered Maurice Franklin built few years ago installed K&B 40 claims fine barnstorming airplane weighing 5/2 lb made mistake letting Doug Spreng fly Camp Pen dleton Oceanside CA flying field Spreng went home airplane Mau rice also built another Flat Top Stormer installed OS 60 four-cycle engine flew fine until OS replaced Redshift 61/tuned-pipe combination airplane became rocketuntil came apart air Apparently stressed kind power feels would sell like mad anyone kitted based responses received hes probably right last two years ever since finishing new Phoenix 8 contest flying has frustrated bad engine runs tried thing figure out what causing engine overheat run lean Com pounding situation several con tributors problem primary cause Originally appeared problem caused foaming fuel bad card favorite glow plugs fuel pump leaked air some bad main bearings two engines confused problem made take long get back real causefuel foaming Fuel foaming sneaky problem very difficult get rid engines use RC Pattern cause much vibration fuel foams must use large fuel tanks because piped engines drink much fuel makes tanks tight fit nose fuselage little room left padding isolate tank vi bration Fuel pumps dont work well foaming fuel engines like less typical flight starts out like nothing wrong followed gradual leaning out overheating engine two years unusual complete Pattern flight least excuse doing poorly contests wanted fly pattern beaten better pilotsnot pilots engines ran got bad group Pattern fliers 1982 Pensacola FL Fiesta Five Flags Contest took up collection buy new engine sure engine wasnt fault Continued page 163 10181jJlng P~B ~ln9 i/ 10y4•f yjltlO 60 8 lbS i uW aeObat~ourstrOWe pare0j tve reW erioS idea got per 60 cU60 oU vte aIW 50 YJ jerV6 oO 8orW r aVCe TteIpvrl3i COSIgn 1ci DASOI CBse COrP SStj0ra 619 72A August 1983 45 Gene Mathis self-proclaimed worlds foremost Stormer fan took picture 1963shows Stormer Taurus Gene Daphne AL always has Stormer flying condition ~jln9 p0sjgneaTbYf 5port BIPI8fl 00A052 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX AMA Membership55 AceRClnc47 Aero Tech RC150 Air Design84 Airtronics2 Phase Art144 American RC Helicopters141 Americas Hobby Center25 Astro Flight54 Balsa USA6-7 Bavarian Precision Products158 Behrens Plan Service160 Dave Brown Products76 Bru Line Industries84 Byron Originals4351 Carlberg Companies136 Carolina-Taffinder162 Johnnie Casburn Mfg23 Chaiies RC Goodies84 Circus Hobbles94-100 Cleveland Model & Supply153 Eric Clutton153 Condor Hobbies137 Consumers Guide RC Aircraft Prod. Consumers Hobby Corp156-157 Coverite162 DA Enterprises D&D Engineering DG Products DGA Designs 0GM Industries Detroit Expo Dougs Hobby Shop ro Products Dynathrust Props Addis Elmore Fab-Tek Inc FAI Model Supply FHS Supply Flite Line Products Flyline Models 16 144 160 163 155 18-19 26 - 148 145 140 151 - 10 161 159 4 11 142-143 154 9 150 77 133 69 Fourmost Products69 Fox Mfg Co145 Full Command Systems37 Futaba Corp America29 Gator RC Products158 Carl Goldberg Models159 Gorham Model Products14 Great Lakes Model & Mold Co16 Great Planes Mod Mfg CoInside Front Cover Grish Brothers140 Art Gross Enterprises159 Hardware Systems Historic Aviation Hobby Barn Hobby Horn Hobby Lobby International Hobby Radio Shop Hobby Shack Horizon Model Crafts Hotel Harrington indy RC Sales J-5 Enterprises Hi Johnson Model Products K&B Manufacturing Co K&S Engineering Kraft Systems Kustom Kraftsmanship Leisure Electronics Lone Star Models MACS Products152 Majestic Models150 McDaniel RC Service163 Jim Messers Quality Model Products Midwest Products85 Mills Airplane Models76 Miniature Aircraft Supply149 Model Rectifier Corp side Back Cover Mutchiers Hobbies146-147 Nor-Cal Avionics37 159 151 45 145 152 155 Ohio Superstar P Productions P&G Metal Products Pacer Technology & Resources Pacific Air Pica Products Polks Hobby RC Kits Mfg RF Enterprises RJL Industries RLF Products Radio South Repla-Tech International Richardson Precision Machining Robbe Modelisport Norm Rosenstock Roush Mfg Co 28 154 137 17 144 15 27 69 85 94 136 - 137 155 140 134-135 137 - 49 51 148 155 93 28 13 148 14 162 160 154 54 158 24 1 153 SR Batteries S&W Hobby Supply Co Saf-Flite Models 138-139 Satellite City Sheldons Hobby Shop 54 Sig Manufacturing Co 76 Sonic-Tronics Squadron-Signal Publications St Croix Park Falls Ltd Swanson Associates T&D Fiberglass Tatone Products Taylor-Craft Ltd Tide Distributors Inc Top Flite Models Tower Hobbies WE Technical Services136 Williams Brothers4 Windsor Propeller Co8 World EnginesBack Cover Xplorer Enterprises51 Zenith Aviation Books5 Nick Ziroli Models10 152 ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX ADVERTISERS INDEX tion other two positions straight up offno mixing Rudder/Aileron Neither positions will get trouble Rudder/Elevator mix gives Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder Down Elevator Down Elevator Right Rudder Up Elevator Left Rudder understand iis V-tailed aircraft doesnt belong its present exposed position fix Ive glued hardwood wedge switch using CyA glue cannot moved Rudder/Elevator position 1 hope will save others simi lar disastrous accident Mine unique experience mixer switches Ive heard other crashes similar Im beginner either Ive logged over 250 hours RC model pilot time last five half years See Nats' record Dougs notepaper features in-flight photograph A-scale Druine Turbulent offers plans Doug also offers plans OS2U Kingfisher powered two cu Quadra model ended up trees due ihe mixed-up mixer switch Time now go mow lawn Maybe should think about buying some sheep Have safe month John Preston 70/2 Elvira Ct Falls Church VA 22042 RC Aerobatics/Van Putte Continued page 45 donated hatful money contest nothing tried cured problem year decided attack foaming problem different way Besides putting much padding possible between tank fuselage adding antifoaming compound Dow Corning DB-l00 fuel placed old-style large Sullivan filters fuel line under neath engine theory small reservoir close engine would allow fuel stop foaming engine could draw nonfoaming fuel Apparently theory works because engine has running great ever since Now needle valve has some authority again feel comfortable adjusting engine just begins break two-cycle Just case larger reservoir turns out necessary also plan try Sullivan one-oz slantAugust 1983 163 Astounding not attainabie plastics.. very light weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete Portable power glow plugs fits shin pooket Using HeadlockTM adapter allows stay plug oat get iota propeller Rechargeable op 10119 times 511 day warracty No wore bulky batteries cables Order say NI-STARTFR either 115 2213 12 colt fast charger Instructions isoladed Also acailable charger See yaar deeler Order direct tram us visa ft Mastercard accepted Please specify type charger Add 51511 postage IUSAI NI-if L lilfo. $2195 NIHI-1E 225 o. $2195 NI-lILlA 120 adap $21ggNI-HL-1Nc Na charger $1295 laseeGleedandee Dr Iloredon VA221171 USA 79243551355 1/I Scale 11L5 @1/2 Scale S1O See Dealer add Used rAA Intercat Froina Sods Dollar direct order handling NyS Resideets acts % Sales tanI front tank later now filter works fine suspect fuel foaming might giving engine problems big filter works might answer problems too talking several top Masterclass fliers other lower-level fliers know engines has become clear using fuel low oil percentages using 15% oil few using 10% far cry 20 22% oil mixtures engine columnists have telling us necessary right dont know Perhaps part answer difference philosophy Master-class Pattern fliers generally know set up engines properly rarely get lean air often have mixture control alle viate lean needle valve setting other hand lean engine runs sport fliers uneommon engine columnists may trying protect fliers get lean runs destroying engines recommending oil content fuel actually necessary Id like someone really knows engines tell us straight story let us decide what oil per centage use about Before get off subject fuel Id like tell about recent experience FHS Red Max fuel 10 years made own home-brew fuel using 10% nitro methane 20% Klotz oil methanol nitro drum prices $1 000 e out home-brew market started getting drums identical mixture FHS Clover SC Since same fuel course ran just same home-brew ordered last drum fellow club member Ed Moorman AMA associate VP District 5 suggested try ing some Red Max 5% nitro fuel uses FHS synthetic oil lieu Klotz said very pleasant surprise would store Well didand hes right cant tell difference per formance fuel cheaper $2 gal lon appears have improved fuel economy 16-oz tank used almost empty end Pattern flight now has about four oz left Scottish-born 225239262282291299302 310mother would proud Ron Van Putre Ill Sleepy Oako Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 69 0 presented October 23-27 1983 pro 2 gram will feature hands-on workshops highly skilled craftsman have restored masterpieces National Air Space Museums collection For detailed information about unique j opportunity please contact Selected Studies A&I 1190 Smithsonian Institution Wash tngton DC 20560 call 202 57-2475 sf Send items Bill Boss 77-06 269th St - New Hyde Park NY J1040 No 415 Hawker Hurricane Mk I$1175 RC Electric-powered Sport Scale 15 motor 3-4 channels Two sheets No 416 Stunfire 60$700 CL Big 62-in span Stunter 60 power No 417 Sportwgon Jr$300 RC Rudder-only sport flier 02 power use pulse-proportional Ne 13142. 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RC Granger Wilhans eragniliceol Model Z 40 engine $796 No 291Cap 20 40-powered scale AC 01 French aerobatic plane Low wing tail dragger 2 sheets $750 No200Ga Bee Se Spocistee AC r4scale hy HatIhe br 91 power Prototype span 309 212 sheets $1175 No 361Ussi F-tO AC Sarpotus 049 decled Ian sport lIner 2-cl Balsa wings Ito lose stroctsre$271 No 2901936 P154 Biplane AC Open Scale 35 40 4-cS Wrrs3spao 56 inn 1 6 scale Tao sheets$425 No 314Drake Its AC Kerr Widards 9prog boat tsr 3-cS 1 SpOwer Fly land mintS reorsoahle 9ear$371 No 320Taylm Cub AC Doe Srnll s Scheolpard-Scale 049s 2 3 CS Spans 50 inn $396 No 332Zeplsyc AC Small 2-CS glider hard-lasnch tow Iherreal slope soaring $300 No 343Wap Vt FF Mihe 51 s Nats-wrnninn9 Outdoor HLG$100 No 340Owetep AC Traroer Sas omy 10910159 Opirry quaSles 3-oh 10 25 power No 364Maclye AC l3ranrt 155-ins spot Saiplano uses 3 AC channels 6 No 396Pieces FF Indoor Easy B Nobber-power coetcst mincer W Van Corder$100 No 362Sneect AC Halt-A Pylon Macer spori Pier Arlerne eleontat control saw wm9$200 No 306SmaIac AC Wrtlards 40-erza tlyng boat 4-cS Slrap-on gnat landelane 2 shIs$1100 No 306Space Slttotlte II AC Larger itngtrooed cerston 01 lIon glider tsr 3-cs No271CAP-21 AC Grad-Scale ol Frartch aeohatrc crah spars 7145 Osadra power 2 sheets dec$1496 No 371Stcato-Stceait AC 04-loran oersron 01 Gararnss larnoan dl FF design lot TA power 2-ce$196 No 372NoigIerlon AC Low-winy tn-gear sportstcr power 4-cS. 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