Aerobaiks THIS MONTH will put finishing touches modifications stand ard Nobler come up Bob Gie seke version standard Bob hastened add letter its oneman ship has done well other fliers Tommy Morgan won Senior 68 Nationals Joe Musumeci Jr has done well Force Moment Arms Obviously over 15 versions built Bob has experi mented different ones World Championship plane keeps using has front moment arm 9 rear moment arm 14 Looking Nobler kit will note dis tances 8 14/4 Fuselage outline fuselage has changed give bit side area make straight line maneuvers look better can draw Gieseke Nob ler side view drawing four parallel lines base line draw parallel line 4/s depth fuselage leading edge wing forward height fuselage cockpit 5 does taper back tail height fin-rudder bottom fuselage 7 fuse lage bottom block made piece wood slight break bevel ottom block just below flaps Bob stated trouble getting right profile areas 1966 ship straightline bottom getting little fuselage wind bounces straight wind thought less area back ship would help did looks better too Fuselage side area important peo ple think terms wind acts right angles vertical ex tension rudder top block Bobs airplanes piece spinner rudder Some waste obviously works best ac cording Bob youve ever seen Bobs planes up close will note coming out top fuselage about 2 nose ring cooling hole Bob has used about 10 air planes Bob stated Heat rises therefore use help cool engine compart ment during practice sessions besides looks neat Bob Gialdini something like Olympics except much neater looking groove extending back almost cockpit nose block cooling vent starts underneath Fox crankcase angles up back through top block landing gear mounted fuse lage stock just like kit Bob wrote Actually landing gear bulk head vertical have notch out leading edge wing little clear landing gear wire Thats close fits track wheels just same kit Despite appearance Bobs ships sit level using distinctive Gieseke tailwheel Bob com mented ground handling character istics planes doubt have ever negative angle attack Ive measured couple ships since sub ject came up couple years ago Zero angle correct never found negative 2 degrees yet anyway Looks neg ative careful measuring shows zero about 1 degree positive Actually nega tive attack makes difficult get off ground Control system Bob uses straight I-to ratio control hookup lust like Nobler plans tried 2/3-tO-l used old Ares Stiletto found plane jumped too much corners suit him Using Top Flite 3-inch bellcrank Bob bushes holes leadout wire places 1/8 copper tube through hole flat washers epoxied side bellcrank flexible Pylon leadout wire epoxied side Y8 tubing wire/tub ing assembly rotates bellcrank hole Bob uses brass tubing nylon inserts bushings flap elevator horns Whereas fliers simply solder tub ing horn after drilling No 29 hole horn Bob also solders washer either side flap horn Bob uses 3/32-in pushrods guide Teflon drilled 3/32-in hole Bob further comments control hook ups Best type plane make sure elevator horn hole close closer elevator hole drilled horn use holes come re-drilling bushing try get little higher elevator horn plane seems responsive equal flap elevator maybe 2-3 degrees elevator flap flap elevator makes sluggish corners Also flap elevator size en ters picture can change No slop bellcrank like put some slop elevator bushing about /8to -in play end elevator hooked up No 38 40 drill size gives about right amount play elevator Any slop flap horn bellcrank disas trous Epoxy washers pushrods melt nylon bushings flap elevator horns Nylon inserts bushcontinued page 86 January1977 31 Above Bob Anna Mae Gieseke 1975 Nats Paul continues analysis month famed Gieseke Nobler Right Landing gear installation Below winner 75 Nats Note dorsal fin maintains parallel fuse lage outlinesdid improve characteristics photographs Wynn Paul NEW FORD TRI MOTOR 1195 TIGER MOTH 1295 Unique because such amazing scale dpt kits relatively ~ som~" ways suchIedg1§ 1fljFIedgli t yoU reW0 chaflfle Wail ttII see 0tber t Oh sprifl0~ yourclearly shown . rugnly detailed Plastic Parts thata touch realism-in-miniature NEW Zi MESSERSCHMITT 495 ZERO ready bolt placeComplete control system less handle lines decals landing gear wheels etc makes building cinch assembly literally minutes can use nn 049 engine needs about 50 flights prepare him competition Plans Bobs meager supply gone Plans should available February 1977 Tom Dixon $500 plans will drawn dimensions given two Model viation articles Write Tom 9025 Hurst Court Jones boro GA 30236 Incidentally Tom has flown several Gieseke Noblers planes follow generally what Bob has outlined wingspan 515 -span flaps Tom also likes put 1/32-in doubler inside fuselage trailing edge wing stiffness folks find yourself set Nobler plans systematically go through de tails mentioned order some plans Tom Dixon too can have Gieseke Nobler 1976 Nationals least five putt-putting around Gary McClellan Joe Musumeci Jr Roger Barrett two beautiful ones Bill Fitzgerald outfitted stabilator information Preci sion Aerobatics Model Pilots Assoc comments write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Dr Lex ington KY4OSO4 writing advertisers mention read about MA Nifty control line models Theyre easiest ones world assembleall wood no tissue coveringonly 6 9 parts depending model ex cept Biplanes have few Genuine Nylon motor mount THEYRE AT YOUR DEALER GET OVER AND SEE THEM NOW CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 31 ings work better Teflon Make bush ings flaps least 1/4 long long can use Wear rate greatly re duced longer bushing Used steel bushings years good results Lubricate bushings vaseline graphitemix graphite vaseline until wont hold anymore cover horn bushing Finishing Bob uses very small quantitites glue epoxy building no fi berglass Using Aero-Gloss products builds up finish traditional way prefers use Japanese tissue cov ering does double-cover first wing panel lightening holes fuselage usually uses Aero-Gloss Stearman Red finish molds own canopies much like stock kit Lately has using Epoxolite fillets too much either adds weight Flying Recently Bob has used 59-ft lines has used same type large E-Z Just handle some time Now comes kicker back really practicing probably got 350 flights before going Nats FAI tryouts could probably fly brick Orwick 50 times least turn decent pattern Nowdays Bob feels once plane trimmed RC Soaring/Pruss continued page 24 stumbling block means end also Fred gives us few hints eight-hour slope flight feel C-size nicads sure way en during receiver servos giving up ghost solution usually requires larger standard class ship Weaver used four alkaline Everready pencells standard Aquila Before flight voltage six volts dropped 53 after eight hours transmitter did use eight C-cell ni cads Fred admits case over kill contest work twohour thermal task Fred used White Trash distance goal return tried original design Lucky Lady ship weighed 6 lbs 14 oz included ballast Wing loading 10 oz/sq ft Fred estimates ship flew about 25 mph wasnt thermalling Other specs wingspan 152 wing area 1606 sq aspect ratio 14-1 airfoil 8/2% flat bottom high point 35% dry weight 5 lbs 14 oz As others have claimed Fred also says tasks goal return fun rewarding eight hours slope make sure can endure Suntan lotion water sand wiches AM/FM radio tapes lounge chair witnesses sense humor Attesting Weaver still alive end eight hours Chris Christen Jon Lowe Tom Christian Jerry Arana Tired building fuselages tails matter fuselages build look like first half started roll second half decided stay straight level Build flying wings Well thats cure-all gent West Coast Dave Jones Western Plan Service has some interesting designs catalog lists conventional looking birds thats grabber 99-inch flying wing called Raven Area 1505 sq 45 ounces gives wing loading 43 oz/sq ft Some interesting features include three-piece wing center section built flat tip panels account slightly third wing span provide polyhedral panels plug detach easy transporting Elevator rudder controls rudder split down center tween leading edge trailing edge third function splits open acts speed brake scribe has seen model Raven fly 1976 LSF Tournament impressed its maneuverabil ity its thermalling ability Catalogs 50 refundable plan purchase Plans Raven $560 fair 86 Model Aviation PAN 345w SCALE 34 Pd tis WAN SS~ aqgIt Afl INNERS L
Edition: Model Aviation - 1977/01
Page Numbers: 31, 86
Aerobaiks THIS MONTH will put finishing touches modifications stand ard Nobler come up Bob Gie seke version standard Bob hastened add letter its oneman ship has done well other fliers Tommy Morgan won Senior 68 Nationals Joe Musumeci Jr has done well Force Moment Arms Obviously over 15 versions built Bob has experi mented different ones World Championship plane keeps using has front moment arm 9 rear moment arm 14 Looking Nobler kit will note dis tances 8 14/4 Fuselage outline fuselage has changed give bit side area make straight line maneuvers look better can draw Gieseke Nob ler side view drawing four parallel lines base line draw parallel line 4/s depth fuselage leading edge wing forward height fuselage cockpit 5 does taper back tail height fin-rudder bottom fuselage 7 fuse lage bottom block made piece wood slight break bevel ottom block just below flaps Bob stated trouble getting right profile areas 1966 ship straightline bottom getting little fuselage wind bounces straight wind thought less area back ship would help did looks better too Fuselage side area important peo ple think terms wind acts right angles vertical ex tension rudder top block Bobs airplanes piece spinner rudder Some waste obviously works best ac cording Bob youve ever seen Bobs planes up close will note coming out top fuselage about 2 nose ring cooling hole Bob has used about 10 air planes Bob stated Heat rises therefore use help cool engine compart ment during practice sessions besides looks neat Bob Gialdini something like Olympics except much neater looking groove extending back almost cockpit nose block cooling vent starts underneath Fox crankcase angles up back through top block landing gear mounted fuse lage stock just like kit Bob wrote Actually landing gear bulk head vertical have notch out leading edge wing little clear landing gear wire Thats close fits track wheels just same kit Despite appearance Bobs ships sit level using distinctive Gieseke tailwheel Bob com mented ground handling character istics planes doubt have ever negative angle attack Ive measured couple ships since sub ject came up couple years ago Zero angle correct never found negative 2 degrees yet anyway Looks neg ative careful measuring shows zero about 1 degree positive Actually nega tive attack makes difficult get off ground Control system Bob uses straight I-to ratio control hookup lust like Nobler plans tried 2/3-tO-l used old Ares Stiletto found plane jumped too much corners suit him Using Top Flite 3-inch bellcrank Bob bushes holes leadout wire places 1/8 copper tube through hole flat washers epoxied side bellcrank flexible Pylon leadout wire epoxied side Y8 tubing wire/tub ing assembly rotates bellcrank hole Bob uses brass tubing nylon inserts bushings flap elevator horns Whereas fliers simply solder tub ing horn after drilling No 29 hole horn Bob also solders washer either side flap horn Bob uses 3/32-in pushrods guide Teflon drilled 3/32-in hole Bob further comments control hook ups Best type plane make sure elevator horn hole close closer elevator hole drilled horn use holes come re-drilling bushing try get little higher elevator horn plane seems responsive equal flap elevator maybe 2-3 degrees elevator flap flap elevator makes sluggish corners Also flap elevator size en ters picture can change No slop bellcrank like put some slop elevator bushing about /8to -in play end elevator hooked up No 38 40 drill size gives about right amount play elevator Any slop flap horn bellcrank disas trous Epoxy washers pushrods melt nylon bushings flap elevator horns Nylon inserts bushcontinued page 86 January1977 31 Above Bob Anna Mae Gieseke 1975 Nats Paul continues analysis month famed Gieseke Nobler Right Landing gear installation Below winner 75 Nats Note dorsal fin maintains parallel fuse lage outlinesdid improve characteristics photographs Wynn Paul NEW FORD TRI MOTOR 1195 TIGER MOTH 1295 Unique because such amazing scale dpt kits relatively ~ som~" ways suchIedg1§ 1fljFIedgli t yoU reW0 chaflfle Wail ttII see 0tber t Oh sprifl0~ yourclearly shown . rugnly detailed Plastic Parts thata touch realism-in-miniature NEW Zi MESSERSCHMITT 495 ZERO ready bolt placeComplete control system less handle lines decals landing gear wheels etc makes building cinch assembly literally minutes can use nn 049 engine needs about 50 flights prepare him competition Plans Bobs meager supply gone Plans should available February 1977 Tom Dixon $500 plans will drawn dimensions given two Model viation articles Write Tom 9025 Hurst Court Jones boro GA 30236 Incidentally Tom has flown several Gieseke Noblers planes follow generally what Bob has outlined wingspan 515 -span flaps Tom also likes put 1/32-in doubler inside fuselage trailing edge wing stiffness folks find yourself set Nobler plans systematically go through de tails mentioned order some plans Tom Dixon too can have Gieseke Nobler 1976 Nationals least five putt-putting around Gary McClellan Joe Musumeci Jr Roger Barrett two beautiful ones Bill Fitzgerald outfitted stabilator information Preci sion Aerobatics Model Pilots Assoc comments write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Dr Lex ington KY4OSO4 writing advertisers mention read about MA Nifty control line models Theyre easiest ones world assembleall wood no tissue coveringonly 6 9 parts depending model ex cept Biplanes have few Genuine Nylon motor mount THEYRE AT YOUR DEALER GET OVER AND SEE THEM NOW CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 31 ings work better Teflon Make bush ings flaps least 1/4 long long can use Wear rate greatly re duced longer bushing Used steel bushings years good results Lubricate bushings vaseline graphitemix graphite vaseline until wont hold anymore cover horn bushing Finishing Bob uses very small quantitites glue epoxy building no fi berglass Using Aero-Gloss products builds up finish traditional way prefers use Japanese tissue cov ering does double-cover first wing panel lightening holes fuselage usually uses Aero-Gloss Stearman Red finish molds own canopies much like stock kit Lately has using Epoxolite fillets too much either adds weight Flying Recently Bob has used 59-ft lines has used same type large E-Z Just handle some time Now comes kicker back really practicing probably got 350 flights before going Nats FAI tryouts could probably fly brick Orwick 50 times least turn decent pattern Nowdays Bob feels once plane trimmed RC Soaring/Pruss continued page 24 stumbling block means end also Fred gives us few hints eight-hour slope flight feel C-size nicads sure way en during receiver servos giving up ghost solution usually requires larger standard class ship Weaver used four alkaline Everready pencells standard Aquila Before flight voltage six volts dropped 53 after eight hours transmitter did use eight C-cell ni cads Fred admits case over kill contest work twohour thermal task Fred used White Trash distance goal return tried original design Lucky Lady ship weighed 6 lbs 14 oz included ballast Wing loading 10 oz/sq ft Fred estimates ship flew about 25 mph wasnt thermalling Other specs wingspan 152 wing area 1606 sq aspect ratio 14-1 airfoil 8/2% flat bottom high point 35% dry weight 5 lbs 14 oz As others have claimed Fred also says tasks goal return fun rewarding eight hours slope make sure can endure Suntan lotion water sand wiches AM/FM radio tapes lounge chair witnesses sense humor Attesting Weaver still alive end eight hours Chris Christen Jon Lowe Tom Christian Jerry Arana Tired building fuselages tails matter fuselages build look like first half started roll second half decided stay straight level Build flying wings Well thats cure-all gent West Coast Dave Jones Western Plan Service has some interesting designs catalog lists conventional looking birds thats grabber 99-inch flying wing called Raven Area 1505 sq 45 ounces gives wing loading 43 oz/sq ft Some interesting features include three-piece wing center section built flat tip panels account slightly third wing span provide polyhedral panels plug detach easy transporting Elevator rudder controls rudder split down center tween leading edge trailing edge third function splits open acts speed brake scribe has seen model Raven fly 1976 LSF Tournament impressed its maneuverabil ity its thermalling ability Catalogs 50 refundable plan purchase Plans Raven $560 fair 86 Model Aviation PAN 345w SCALE 34 Pd tis WAN SS~ aqgIt Afl INNERS L