Control Line K Scale Bill Boss OVERCOAT UNDERCOAT No am talking about what worn during cold winter months now writing columnits January about over under coatings apply paints fillers sealers use great flying creations accompanying table compatibility taken Wing Tips Newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters New York information table presented includes Aerogloss dope butyrate dope polyester resins sealers Fillers clude DuPont 30S auto primer DAP Vinyl Spackle dope-and-baby-powder polyester resins Paints include acrylic enamel lightweight very glossy acrylic lacquer lightweight semi glossy alkyd enamels heavyweight very glossy butyrate dopes very light satiny epoxy enamels moderately heavy very glossy polyurethane enamels moderately heavy high gloss quick examination chart dicates polyester resin probably compatible undercoating surface have commonly-used overcoatings appears enamels compatible top surface trim DuPont 305 DAP Vinyl Spackle fine filling repair work also see very outstand ing NO-NO overcoat use polyester resins should used over under coat except polyester resin also another caution should observed going put epoxy enamel over butyrate dope advisable spray subject coat epoxy primer will create bonding layer between dope epoxy enamel cau tion observed good chance epoxy enamel will come off masking tape used trim design outline hope presentation table 0 F J 80 P 80 F J 80 E 80 B F ALL * 80 F 80 t PATHS amelC E quer.E F J iei* FH * nOlEFG esins aneE F G Spackie.* Having trouble deciding what paint tiller sealer goes what Study table read Overcoat Undercoat column information Youll love itI comments will just thing have looking hang workshop wall know some listed items did know about before reading Wing Tips would like have larger copy table just send SASE ad dress given end column have credited Mid-Hudson Modelmasters presenting infor mation beginning column must say borrowed Corsair took Bullpen took Hangar Talk etc guess dont know really start ed big Thanks whoever put together first place Before leaving subject paints fillers let call attention new Hobbypoxy grain filler called Fast Fill named Fast Fill because dries sands fills fast Its single-component airdry material means dont mix two parts together Just open can add little thinner like Hobbypoxy thinner course brush directly bare balsa Fast Fill penetrates seals fills application Tests made material show dries quickly sands smoothly easily loading paper Two three coats needed complete grain-filling Hobbypoxy indicates Fast Fill compatible hobby paints including dopes enamels urethanes epoxies packaged half full pints use depending building needs free information entire line Hobbypoxy finishing materials Continued page 162 68 Model Aviation New product filling grain balsa prior finishing Fast Fill Hobby poxy dont mix itIt alrdries Bill has used loves column Bill Force Sweetwater NJ seems have solved reaIIsm problem scratch-built allbaisa FJ3 Fury Ducted fan model uses K&B 75cc engines spans 40 weighs 5 lb Operational features include tail hook drop fuel tank drop operational speed brakes Cockpit detail excellent Theres information column make realistic pilot faces ease MICROMARKS EXCLUSIVE 31 FLEX SHAFT TURNS ANY DREMEL MOTOTOOL INTO FLEXIBLE SHAFT MACHINE INSTANTLY LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER FLEXIBLE COMFORTABLE PEN-SIZE HANOPIECE lets work tight spots ACCEPTS ALL DREMEL ACCESSORIES AND DRILL BITS #800135thru 1/n ______ INCLUDES 4 PRECISION COLLETS AND ANGLE WRENCH Has precision bronze bearings Runs speeds up 20000 RPM #6 dial setting Dremel variable speed models 350 370 & 380 HOW TO ORDER Simply send name address & order MICROMARK Box 5112-4724 E Main St. Clinton NJ 08809 Enclose check money order $1495 Flex Shaft #14260 plus $200 insured delivery USA Moto-Tool Holder #14261 $395 postpaid purchased Flex Shaft COO add $200 per order VISA MASTER-CARD AMEX enclose account number exp date signature CALL TOLL FREE 800-225-1066 NJ 201 -464-6764 48-page tool catalog $100 FREE order pitch axis other hand para mount importance inasmuch maneuvers accomplished through vari ous rates directions pitch change will therefore consider pitch detail So talking same lan guage lets define some terms will recur throughout series First MAC Mean Aerodynamic Chord robot chord 13 tip chord 9 MAC will station wing span chord length 11 MAC technically slightly dif ferent average chord can purposes assume equal colocated MAC important since parameters discuss will refer enced position MAC Also remember tail merely smaller lifting surface therefore exhibits same aerodynamic characteristics wing including MAC CG Center Gravity important recognize CG point about outside force OUR OWN LOW COST MOTO-TOOL HOLDER ONLY $39Sppd purchased FLEX SHAFT Belt clamp werkhench wall USE WITh OUR FLEX SHAFT will act ie thrust drag lift etc Since true force momentsie tail moments pitching moments etcwill defined distance CG last differs historical Stunt practice measuring tail moments hingeline hingeline useless exercise unless comparing otherwise iden tical wing tail planforms Fore aft CG will spoken terms its location MAC CG located 15 inches leading edge 10-inch MAC 15e MAC recognized vertical spanwise location CG probably wont located defined must recognize divergences minor significant affecting pitch C/L Center Lift point MAC wings lift concen trated symmetrical airfoils C/L located 25 e MAC moves some what aft airfoil cambered deflected flaps Lift generated wing tail act respective C/Ls develop moment about CG system works just like parkyard teeter-totter force lift applied given distance fulcrum CG turning movement pitching results Aspect Ratio AR measure relationship wings span its area average chord simple tapered wings shape wings planform top view much cosmetic interest As aspect ratios get larger longer spans given area wing becomes efficient terms lift produced compared drag developed can both good bad will learn C1 Coefficient Lift nondimensional number no real value such inches pounds sex appeal etc reflects relative amount lift airfoil section generates under given set conditions Some general state ments concerning C1 given airfoil will increase increase air speed increase angle attack up point stall airflow sepa rates wings surface lift rapidly drops zero. rare occurrence competitive Stunt ship angle attack increases C1 will increase faster rate high aspect-ratios low Maximum C1 will roughly same both high low aspect ratio however low aspect ratios require higher angles attack same C1 generate greater drag per unit lift Last ly high aspect ratios stall lesser angles attack low Whew think sets stage Next month well dive right design phase see what sort options have developing Stunter thatll per form expectations Ted Fancher 158 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 68 color chart listing military scale col ors made Hobbypoxy paints write Hobbypoxy Products Division Pettit Paint Company Inc 36 Pine St PO Continued page 164 WE NOW HAVE COMPLETE LINE OF BROWN TELCO DAVIS CO-2 ENGINES INCLUDING SPARE PARTS SERVICE IROWNTEL CO A-n PEANUT$3595STANDARD TELCO$2495 CAMPUS BEE$3495TURBO 3000$3295 CAMPUS TWiN$5955TURBO 000093696 SODA CHARGER -$1295 DAVIS- COX 02CONVERSION TO CO-2$2995 NEW CATALOL No25 $150 S.LD*Imjm*me PHONE 619442-4936 UUR6W67WUUW 1019 469-6615 W BOX 2498-MA DIVISION OF BAR/RICH SALES CO 62 FAIRWAY HANNIBAL MO 63401 13141 221-8803 aster FACTURERS OF SPORT PATTERNSTINGER II PEPPERMINT PATTIE 60SPARTAN PEPPERMINT PATTIE 40SPORT/SCALE PEPPERMINT PATTIE 15HIPERBIPE 162 ModelAviation ANOTHER GREAT VALUE make face item also taken Wing Tips newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters au thored Jim Kaman Scale buff problem fabricating instrument panels like ongoing fact life least headaches production scale pilot now required competition models Philosoph ically problem whether pilot necessary desirable will set aside well assume builder committed filling cockpit something closely resembling airplane pilot does proceed Jim goes say art PAW DIESELS Englands Finest 049 35 New low low prices Send $100 list Eric Cluttoui 913 Cedar Lane Tullalioma Tenn 37388 9 Direct Sales Only U l T4Il&K YOUVE SEW TAIEW mrs AIRPLANE lT SAYS J WOOb ARTS lNCLAE gineered tcot tne Backed Service Matcfl Engines have points easy starting carburetor linkage crankcase tapped smoke adapter 6 bolt prop hub mount mounting bolts muffler engines reedy run Props tanks oil spark plugs etc available extra charge except Kioritz 37 Twin Seclis-Dolmar 34 SACHSDOL MAR 31 muffler 50 HPSlbs11 oz 34 muffler 60 HP 5 lbs 37 muffler 65 HP 5 lbs 15 oz KIORITZ 24 Work Horse 32 HP 6A lbs ugrect a. tJruy TG MFGM857 High Mountain Rd North Haledon NJ 07508Phone 1-201-427-3845 COBRA New Standard Giant Models 31 HP 5Yz lbs * 149 164 ModelAviation Box 378 Rockaway NJ 07866 instructor has reasonable success pilots papier mache carving making pilot figures using several wood like Jim methods including casting Guillow kit can sculpt faces have often presented L SILICONE 10 toot coils TUBING lD.062 092 125u S POST S/coil235 265 325 54t/GOIL LARRY DODGE AERO INC 0210 MANNINGSTILLWATER MN 55082 almost overwhelming obstacle creating illusion realism Working small sizes makes job tougher fine detail hard several suppliers scale figures larger models products available superb No need GI Joe dolls now smaller figures problem can make small pilot figures authentic faces spending hours under magnifier Remember observers will inevitably look face judge figure no matter well crafted rest pilot Jim indicates has over years done much experimenting believes has finally developed best answer problem amateur cheapest fastest way begin start suitable master usually found toy box excellent plastic toys market today finding right look exact scale snap Once body carved scale see Bill Warners FF Sport/Scale Column February 1985 MA Carve Pilot Jim Kaman take face master have chosen press carefully modeling clay Remove just carefully rocking slightly removed Check impression see clean has little no distor tion magnifying glass useful youre satisfied results repeat process until good clean im pression obtained Once satis fied impression drop thick gapfilling-type CyA glue impression tease stuff carefully cracks crevices rotating mold hand toothpick scrap wood splinter will work fine careful dig mold coax glue want idea get reas onably good coverage mold especi ally nose eye detail Avoid air bubbles caused simply dumping glue mold After glue has cured casting can removed cleaned lighter fluid toothbrush Trim away excess material glue face front carved pilots head should have left flat purpose Paint face figure matte railroad colors presto pilot Jim has also used process making facsimiles gears other small objects might used cockpit elsewhere Scale planes Send building tips ideas photos CL Scale Bill Boss 77-06 269th St New Hyde Park NY 11040 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 abatement program yet Execu tive Council muffler rules defeated initial Contest Board ballot CL-86-33 would exempt CL Navy Car rier noise abatement regulations proposed Executive Council action expected applied com petition events 1986 order allow gradual transition avoid making existing equipment obsolete immediately CL-86-35 would preserve scale out lines Camr aircraft event CL-86-32 passes requiring pipes mufflers either external model enclosed within CL-86-34 specifies Carrier models Continued page 168 wr~c heve ronu ho b bys product sm PO Box 2480 OSandusky Ohio 44870 419 627-1877 Fean its Best Deal Best May1985 165 WACO UPF-7 14 SCALE 72 120-4C OR LARGER SEND $200 FOR COMPLETE CATALOG OF FINE KITS IKON NWST PO Box 566 Auburn WA 98071 208941-8248 IM52IMP iOOW] Both require Two Channel Radio Mini Servos 250 MAN BATT wood construction include hardware needed $2500 ea includes shipping UPS COD add $200 $600 plans CA add 6% Dealer Inquiries Invited LINDSEY MICRO PRODUCTS 160-A No Fairview Ave Suite 104 Goleta CA 93117 805 683 2042 After 5 pm Pacific FU5RaA55 coeemucou FAI & AMA PAlTERN 60-61 ENGINE M SPAN 704 eq AREA WEIGIIT7 105 LBS DEPENGING ON EQUIP ASIC KIT$107 95 DiLUXE Krl 615905 t PU flit-Ia L&L MODEL PRODUCTS 513 Ua4elz 150 Aepidd 00 7 FOAM WING CORES CUSTOM FOAM CIiTrIIUG Custom Cut C-130 iuFuse 78 OCUN STATE AEHOMODEL ENGINEERING $14995 21 Jaycee er & Kit West Wag-wick El 02393Manufacturers 401 5285813__ iries Invited Coming Soon /4 Scale F8F Bearcat
Edition: Model Aviation - 1985/05
Page Numbers: 68, 162, 164, 165
Control Line K Scale Bill Boss OVERCOAT UNDERCOAT No am talking about what worn during cold winter months now writing columnits January about over under coatings apply paints fillers sealers use great flying creations accompanying table compatibility taken Wing Tips Newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters New York information table presented includes Aerogloss dope butyrate dope polyester resins sealers Fillers clude DuPont 30S auto primer DAP Vinyl Spackle dope-and-baby-powder polyester resins Paints include acrylic enamel lightweight very glossy acrylic lacquer lightweight semi glossy alkyd enamels heavyweight very glossy butyrate dopes very light satiny epoxy enamels moderately heavy very glossy polyurethane enamels moderately heavy high gloss quick examination chart dicates polyester resin probably compatible undercoating surface have commonly-used overcoatings appears enamels compatible top surface trim DuPont 305 DAP Vinyl Spackle fine filling repair work also see very outstand ing NO-NO overcoat use polyester resins should used over under coat except polyester resin also another caution should observed going put epoxy enamel over butyrate dope advisable spray subject coat epoxy primer will create bonding layer between dope epoxy enamel cau tion observed good chance epoxy enamel will come off masking tape used trim design outline hope presentation table 0 F J 80 P 80 F J 80 E 80 B F ALL * 80 F 80 t PATHS amelC E quer.E F J iei* FH * nOlEFG esins aneE F G Spackie.* Having trouble deciding what paint tiller sealer goes what Study table read Overcoat Undercoat column information Youll love itI comments will just thing have looking hang workshop wall know some listed items did know about before reading Wing Tips would like have larger copy table just send SASE ad dress given end column have credited Mid-Hudson Modelmasters presenting infor mation beginning column must say borrowed Corsair took Bullpen took Hangar Talk etc guess dont know really start ed big Thanks whoever put together first place Before leaving subject paints fillers let call attention new Hobbypoxy grain filler called Fast Fill named Fast Fill because dries sands fills fast Its single-component airdry material means dont mix two parts together Just open can add little thinner like Hobbypoxy thinner course brush directly bare balsa Fast Fill penetrates seals fills application Tests made material show dries quickly sands smoothly easily loading paper Two three coats needed complete grain-filling Hobbypoxy indicates Fast Fill compatible hobby paints including dopes enamels urethanes epoxies packaged half full pints use depending building needs free information entire line Hobbypoxy finishing materials Continued page 162 68 Model Aviation New product filling grain balsa prior finishing Fast Fill Hobby poxy dont mix itIt alrdries Bill has used loves column Bill Force Sweetwater NJ seems have solved reaIIsm problem scratch-built allbaisa FJ3 Fury Ducted fan model uses K&B 75cc engines spans 40 weighs 5 lb Operational features include tail hook drop fuel tank drop operational speed brakes Cockpit detail excellent Theres information column make realistic pilot faces ease MICROMARKS EXCLUSIVE 31 FLEX SHAFT TURNS ANY DREMEL MOTOTOOL INTO FLEXIBLE SHAFT MACHINE INSTANTLY LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER FLEXIBLE COMFORTABLE PEN-SIZE HANOPIECE lets work tight spots ACCEPTS ALL DREMEL ACCESSORIES AND DRILL BITS #800135thru 1/n ______ INCLUDES 4 PRECISION COLLETS AND ANGLE WRENCH Has precision bronze bearings Runs speeds up 20000 RPM #6 dial setting Dremel variable speed models 350 370 & 380 HOW TO ORDER Simply send name address & order MICROMARK Box 5112-4724 E Main St. Clinton NJ 08809 Enclose check money order $1495 Flex Shaft #14260 plus $200 insured delivery USA Moto-Tool Holder #14261 $395 postpaid purchased Flex Shaft COO add $200 per order VISA MASTER-CARD AMEX enclose account number exp date signature CALL TOLL FREE 800-225-1066 NJ 201 -464-6764 48-page tool catalog $100 FREE order pitch axis other hand para mount importance inasmuch maneuvers accomplished through vari ous rates directions pitch change will therefore consider pitch detail So talking same lan guage lets define some terms will recur throughout series First MAC Mean Aerodynamic Chord robot chord 13 tip chord 9 MAC will station wing span chord length 11 MAC technically slightly dif ferent average chord can purposes assume equal colocated MAC important since parameters discuss will refer enced position MAC Also remember tail merely smaller lifting surface therefore exhibits same aerodynamic characteristics wing including MAC CG Center Gravity important recognize CG point about outside force OUR OWN LOW COST MOTO-TOOL HOLDER ONLY $39Sppd purchased FLEX SHAFT Belt clamp werkhench wall USE WITh OUR FLEX SHAFT will act ie thrust drag lift etc Since true force momentsie tail moments pitching moments etcwill defined distance CG last differs historical Stunt practice measuring tail moments hingeline hingeline useless exercise unless comparing otherwise iden tical wing tail planforms Fore aft CG will spoken terms its location MAC CG located 15 inches leading edge 10-inch MAC 15e MAC recognized vertical spanwise location CG probably wont located defined must recognize divergences minor significant affecting pitch C/L Center Lift point MAC wings lift concen trated symmetrical airfoils C/L located 25 e MAC moves some what aft airfoil cambered deflected flaps Lift generated wing tail act respective C/Ls develop moment about CG system works just like parkyard teeter-totter force lift applied given distance fulcrum CG turning movement pitching results Aspect Ratio AR measure relationship wings span its area average chord simple tapered wings shape wings planform top view much cosmetic interest As aspect ratios get larger longer spans given area wing becomes efficient terms lift produced compared drag developed can both good bad will learn C1 Coefficient Lift nondimensional number no real value such inches pounds sex appeal etc reflects relative amount lift airfoil section generates under given set conditions Some general state ments concerning C1 given airfoil will increase increase air speed increase angle attack up point stall airflow sepa rates wings surface lift rapidly drops zero. rare occurrence competitive Stunt ship angle attack increases C1 will increase faster rate high aspect-ratios low Maximum C1 will roughly same both high low aspect ratio however low aspect ratios require higher angles attack same C1 generate greater drag per unit lift Last ly high aspect ratios stall lesser angles attack low Whew think sets stage Next month well dive right design phase see what sort options have developing Stunter thatll per form expectations Ted Fancher 158 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 68 color chart listing military scale col ors made Hobbypoxy paints write Hobbypoxy Products Division Pettit Paint Company Inc 36 Pine St PO Continued page 164 WE NOW HAVE COMPLETE LINE OF BROWN TELCO DAVIS CO-2 ENGINES INCLUDING SPARE PARTS SERVICE IROWNTEL CO A-n PEANUT$3595STANDARD TELCO$2495 CAMPUS BEE$3495TURBO 3000$3295 CAMPUS TWiN$5955TURBO 000093696 SODA CHARGER -$1295 DAVIS- COX 02CONVERSION TO CO-2$2995 NEW CATALOL No25 $150 S.LD*Imjm*me PHONE 619442-4936 UUR6W67WUUW 1019 469-6615 W BOX 2498-MA DIVISION OF BAR/RICH SALES CO 62 FAIRWAY HANNIBAL MO 63401 13141 221-8803 aster FACTURERS OF SPORT PATTERNSTINGER II PEPPERMINT PATTIE 60SPARTAN PEPPERMINT PATTIE 40SPORT/SCALE PEPPERMINT PATTIE 15HIPERBIPE 162 ModelAviation ANOTHER GREAT VALUE make face item also taken Wing Tips newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters au thored Jim Kaman Scale buff problem fabricating instrument panels like ongoing fact life least headaches production scale pilot now required competition models Philosoph ically problem whether pilot necessary desirable will set aside well assume builder committed filling cockpit something closely resembling airplane pilot does proceed Jim goes say art PAW DIESELS Englands Finest 049 35 New low low prices Send $100 list Eric Cluttoui 913 Cedar Lane Tullalioma Tenn 37388 9 Direct Sales Only U l T4Il&K YOUVE SEW TAIEW mrs AIRPLANE lT SAYS J WOOb ARTS lNCLAE gineered tcot tne Backed Service Matcfl Engines have points easy starting carburetor linkage crankcase tapped smoke adapter 6 bolt prop hub mount mounting bolts muffler engines reedy run Props tanks oil spark plugs etc available extra charge except Kioritz 37 Twin Seclis-Dolmar 34 SACHSDOL MAR 31 muffler 50 HPSlbs11 oz 34 muffler 60 HP 5 lbs 37 muffler 65 HP 5 lbs 15 oz KIORITZ 24 Work Horse 32 HP 6A lbs ugrect a. tJruy TG MFGM857 High Mountain Rd North Haledon NJ 07508Phone 1-201-427-3845 COBRA New Standard Giant Models 31 HP 5Yz lbs * 149 164 ModelAviation Box 378 Rockaway NJ 07866 instructor has reasonable success pilots papier mache carving making pilot figures using several wood like Jim methods including casting Guillow kit can sculpt faces have often presented L SILICONE 10 toot coils TUBING lD.062 092 125u S POST S/coil235 265 325 54t/GOIL LARRY DODGE AERO INC 0210 MANNINGSTILLWATER MN 55082 almost overwhelming obstacle creating illusion realism Working small sizes makes job tougher fine detail hard several suppliers scale figures larger models products available superb No need GI Joe dolls now smaller figures problem can make small pilot figures authentic faces spending hours under magnifier Remember observers will inevitably look face judge figure no matter well crafted rest pilot Jim indicates has over years done much experimenting believes has finally developed best answer problem amateur cheapest fastest way begin start suitable master usually found toy box excellent plastic toys market today finding right look exact scale snap Once body carved scale see Bill Warners FF Sport/Scale Column February 1985 MA Carve Pilot Jim Kaman take face master have chosen press carefully modeling clay Remove just carefully rocking slightly removed Check impression see clean has little no distor tion magnifying glass useful youre satisfied results repeat process until good clean im pression obtained Once satis fied impression drop thick gapfilling-type CyA glue impression tease stuff carefully cracks crevices rotating mold hand toothpick scrap wood splinter will work fine careful dig mold coax glue want idea get reas onably good coverage mold especi ally nose eye detail Avoid air bubbles caused simply dumping glue mold After glue has cured casting can removed cleaned lighter fluid toothbrush Trim away excess material glue face front carved pilots head should have left flat purpose Paint face figure matte railroad colors presto pilot Jim has also used process making facsimiles gears other small objects might used cockpit elsewhere Scale planes Send building tips ideas photos CL Scale Bill Boss 77-06 269th St New Hyde Park NY 11040 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 abatement program yet Execu tive Council muffler rules defeated initial Contest Board ballot CL-86-33 would exempt CL Navy Car rier noise abatement regulations proposed Executive Council action expected applied com petition events 1986 order allow gradual transition avoid making existing equipment obsolete immediately CL-86-35 would preserve scale out lines Camr aircraft event CL-86-32 passes requiring pipes mufflers either external model enclosed within CL-86-34 specifies Carrier models Continued page 168 wr~c heve ronu ho b bys product sm PO Box 2480 OSandusky Ohio 44870 419 627-1877 Fean its Best Deal Best May1985 165 WACO UPF-7 14 SCALE 72 120-4C OR LARGER SEND $200 FOR COMPLETE CATALOG OF FINE KITS IKON NWST PO Box 566 Auburn WA 98071 208941-8248 IM52IMP iOOW] Both require Two Channel Radio Mini Servos 250 MAN BATT wood construction include hardware needed $2500 ea includes shipping UPS COD add $200 $600 plans CA add 6% Dealer Inquiries Invited LINDSEY MICRO PRODUCTS 160-A No Fairview Ave Suite 104 Goleta CA 93117 805 683 2042 After 5 pm Pacific FU5RaA55 coeemucou FAI & AMA PAlTERN 60-61 ENGINE M SPAN 704 eq AREA WEIGIIT7 105 LBS DEPENGING ON EQUIP ASIC KIT$107 95 DiLUXE Krl 615905 t PU flit-Ia L&L MODEL PRODUCTS 513 Ua4elz 150 Aepidd 00 7 FOAM WING CORES CUSTOM FOAM CIiTrIIUG Custom Cut C-130 iuFuse 78 OCUN STATE AEHOMODEL ENGINEERING $14995 21 Jaycee er & Kit West Wag-wick El 02393Manufacturers 401 5285813__ iries Invited Coming Soon /4 Scale F8F Bearcat
Edition: Model Aviation - 1985/05
Page Numbers: 68, 162, 164, 165
Control Line K Scale Bill Boss OVERCOAT UNDERCOAT No am talking about what worn during cold winter months now writing columnits January about over under coatings apply paints fillers sealers use great flying creations accompanying table compatibility taken Wing Tips Newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters New York information table presented includes Aerogloss dope butyrate dope polyester resins sealers Fillers clude DuPont 30S auto primer DAP Vinyl Spackle dope-and-baby-powder polyester resins Paints include acrylic enamel lightweight very glossy acrylic lacquer lightweight semi glossy alkyd enamels heavyweight very glossy butyrate dopes very light satiny epoxy enamels moderately heavy very glossy polyurethane enamels moderately heavy high gloss quick examination chart dicates polyester resin probably compatible undercoating surface have commonly-used overcoatings appears enamels compatible top surface trim DuPont 305 DAP Vinyl Spackle fine filling repair work also see very outstand ing NO-NO overcoat use polyester resins should used over under coat except polyester resin also another caution should observed going put epoxy enamel over butyrate dope advisable spray subject coat epoxy primer will create bonding layer between dope epoxy enamel cau tion observed good chance epoxy enamel will come off masking tape used trim design outline hope presentation table 0 F J 80 P 80 F J 80 E 80 B F ALL * 80 F 80 t PATHS amelC E quer.E F J iei* FH * nOlEFG esins aneE F G Spackie.* Having trouble deciding what paint tiller sealer goes what Study table read Overcoat Undercoat column information Youll love itI comments will just thing have looking hang workshop wall know some listed items did know about before reading Wing Tips would like have larger copy table just send SASE ad dress given end column have credited Mid-Hudson Modelmasters presenting infor mation beginning column must say borrowed Corsair took Bullpen took Hangar Talk etc guess dont know really start ed big Thanks whoever put together first place Before leaving subject paints fillers let call attention new Hobbypoxy grain filler called Fast Fill named Fast Fill because dries sands fills fast Its single-component airdry material means dont mix two parts together Just open can add little thinner like Hobbypoxy thinner course brush directly bare balsa Fast Fill penetrates seals fills application Tests made material show dries quickly sands smoothly easily loading paper Two three coats needed complete grain-filling Hobbypoxy indicates Fast Fill compatible hobby paints including dopes enamels urethanes epoxies packaged half full pints use depending building needs free information entire line Hobbypoxy finishing materials Continued page 162 68 Model Aviation New product filling grain balsa prior finishing Fast Fill Hobby poxy dont mix itIt alrdries Bill has used loves column Bill Force Sweetwater NJ seems have solved reaIIsm problem scratch-built allbaisa FJ3 Fury Ducted fan model uses K&B 75cc engines spans 40 weighs 5 lb Operational features include tail hook drop fuel tank drop operational speed brakes Cockpit detail excellent Theres information column make realistic pilot faces ease MICROMARKS EXCLUSIVE 31 FLEX SHAFT TURNS ANY DREMEL MOTOTOOL INTO FLEXIBLE SHAFT MACHINE INSTANTLY LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER FLEXIBLE COMFORTABLE PEN-SIZE HANOPIECE lets work tight spots ACCEPTS ALL DREMEL ACCESSORIES AND DRILL BITS #800135thru 1/n ______ INCLUDES 4 PRECISION COLLETS AND ANGLE WRENCH Has precision bronze bearings Runs speeds up 20000 RPM #6 dial setting Dremel variable speed models 350 370 & 380 HOW TO ORDER Simply send name address & order MICROMARK Box 5112-4724 E Main St. Clinton NJ 08809 Enclose check money order $1495 Flex Shaft #14260 plus $200 insured delivery USA Moto-Tool Holder #14261 $395 postpaid purchased Flex Shaft COO add $200 per order VISA MASTER-CARD AMEX enclose account number exp date signature CALL TOLL FREE 800-225-1066 NJ 201 -464-6764 48-page tool catalog $100 FREE order pitch axis other hand para mount importance inasmuch maneuvers accomplished through vari ous rates directions pitch change will therefore consider pitch detail So talking same lan guage lets define some terms will recur throughout series First MAC Mean Aerodynamic Chord robot chord 13 tip chord 9 MAC will station wing span chord length 11 MAC technically slightly dif ferent average chord can purposes assume equal colocated MAC important since parameters discuss will refer enced position MAC Also remember tail merely smaller lifting surface therefore exhibits same aerodynamic characteristics wing including MAC CG Center Gravity important recognize CG point about outside force OUR OWN LOW COST MOTO-TOOL HOLDER ONLY $39Sppd purchased FLEX SHAFT Belt clamp werkhench wall USE WITh OUR FLEX SHAFT will act ie thrust drag lift etc Since true force momentsie tail moments pitching moments etcwill defined distance CG last differs historical Stunt practice measuring tail moments hingeline hingeline useless exercise unless comparing otherwise iden tical wing tail planforms Fore aft CG will spoken terms its location MAC CG located 15 inches leading edge 10-inch MAC 15e MAC recognized vertical spanwise location CG probably wont located defined must recognize divergences minor significant affecting pitch C/L Center Lift point MAC wings lift concen trated symmetrical airfoils C/L located 25 e MAC moves some what aft airfoil cambered deflected flaps Lift generated wing tail act respective C/Ls develop moment about CG system works just like parkyard teeter-totter force lift applied given distance fulcrum CG turning movement pitching results Aspect Ratio AR measure relationship wings span its area average chord simple tapered wings shape wings planform top view much cosmetic interest As aspect ratios get larger longer spans given area wing becomes efficient terms lift produced compared drag developed can both good bad will learn C1 Coefficient Lift nondimensional number no real value such inches pounds sex appeal etc reflects relative amount lift airfoil section generates under given set conditions Some general state ments concerning C1 given airfoil will increase increase air speed increase angle attack up point stall airflow sepa rates wings surface lift rapidly drops zero. rare occurrence competitive Stunt ship angle attack increases C1 will increase faster rate high aspect-ratios low Maximum C1 will roughly same both high low aspect ratio however low aspect ratios require higher angles attack same C1 generate greater drag per unit lift Last ly high aspect ratios stall lesser angles attack low Whew think sets stage Next month well dive right design phase see what sort options have developing Stunter thatll per form expectations Ted Fancher 158 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 68 color chart listing military scale col ors made Hobbypoxy paints write Hobbypoxy Products Division Pettit Paint Company Inc 36 Pine St PO Continued page 164 WE NOW HAVE COMPLETE LINE OF BROWN TELCO DAVIS CO-2 ENGINES INCLUDING SPARE PARTS SERVICE IROWNTEL CO A-n PEANUT$3595STANDARD TELCO$2495 CAMPUS BEE$3495TURBO 3000$3295 CAMPUS TWiN$5955TURBO 000093696 SODA CHARGER -$1295 DAVIS- COX 02CONVERSION TO CO-2$2995 NEW CATALOL No25 $150 S.LD*Imjm*me PHONE 619442-4936 UUR6W67WUUW 1019 469-6615 W BOX 2498-MA DIVISION OF BAR/RICH SALES CO 62 FAIRWAY HANNIBAL MO 63401 13141 221-8803 aster FACTURERS OF SPORT PATTERNSTINGER II PEPPERMINT PATTIE 60SPARTAN PEPPERMINT PATTIE 40SPORT/SCALE PEPPERMINT PATTIE 15HIPERBIPE 162 ModelAviation ANOTHER GREAT VALUE make face item also taken Wing Tips newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters au thored Jim Kaman Scale buff problem fabricating instrument panels like ongoing fact life least headaches production scale pilot now required competition models Philosoph ically problem whether pilot necessary desirable will set aside well assume builder committed filling cockpit something closely resembling airplane pilot does proceed Jim goes say art PAW DIESELS Englands Finest 049 35 New low low prices Send $100 list Eric Cluttoui 913 Cedar Lane Tullalioma Tenn 37388 9 Direct Sales Only U l T4Il&K YOUVE SEW TAIEW mrs AIRPLANE lT SAYS J WOOb ARTS lNCLAE gineered tcot tne Backed Service Matcfl Engines have points easy starting carburetor linkage crankcase tapped smoke adapter 6 bolt prop hub mount mounting bolts muffler engines reedy run Props tanks oil spark plugs etc available extra charge except Kioritz 37 Twin Seclis-Dolmar 34 SACHSDOL MAR 31 muffler 50 HPSlbs11 oz 34 muffler 60 HP 5 lbs 37 muffler 65 HP 5 lbs 15 oz KIORITZ 24 Work Horse 32 HP 6A lbs ugrect a. tJruy TG MFGM857 High Mountain Rd North Haledon NJ 07508Phone 1-201-427-3845 COBRA New Standard Giant Models 31 HP 5Yz lbs * 149 164 ModelAviation Box 378 Rockaway NJ 07866 instructor has reasonable success pilots papier mache carving making pilot figures using several wood like Jim methods including casting Guillow kit can sculpt faces have often presented L SILICONE 10 toot coils TUBING lD.062 092 125u S POST S/coil235 265 325 54t/GOIL LARRY DODGE AERO INC 0210 MANNINGSTILLWATER MN 55082 almost overwhelming obstacle creating illusion realism Working small sizes makes job tougher fine detail hard several suppliers scale figures larger models products available superb No need GI Joe dolls now smaller figures problem can make small pilot figures authentic faces spending hours under magnifier Remember observers will inevitably look face judge figure no matter well crafted rest pilot Jim indicates has over years done much experimenting believes has finally developed best answer problem amateur cheapest fastest way begin start suitable master usually found toy box excellent plastic toys market today finding right look exact scale snap Once body carved scale see Bill Warners FF Sport/Scale Column February 1985 MA Carve Pilot Jim Kaman take face master have chosen press carefully modeling clay Remove just carefully rocking slightly removed Check impression see clean has little no distor tion magnifying glass useful youre satisfied results repeat process until good clean im pression obtained Once satis fied impression drop thick gapfilling-type CyA glue impression tease stuff carefully cracks crevices rotating mold hand toothpick scrap wood splinter will work fine careful dig mold coax glue want idea get reas onably good coverage mold especi ally nose eye detail Avoid air bubbles caused simply dumping glue mold After glue has cured casting can removed cleaned lighter fluid toothbrush Trim away excess material glue face front carved pilots head should have left flat purpose Paint face figure matte railroad colors presto pilot Jim has also used process making facsimiles gears other small objects might used cockpit elsewhere Scale planes Send building tips ideas photos CL Scale Bill Boss 77-06 269th St New Hyde Park NY 11040 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 abatement program yet Execu tive Council muffler rules defeated initial Contest Board ballot CL-86-33 would exempt CL Navy Car rier noise abatement regulations proposed Executive Council action expected applied com petition events 1986 order allow gradual transition avoid making existing equipment obsolete immediately CL-86-35 would preserve scale out lines Camr aircraft event CL-86-32 passes requiring pipes mufflers either external model enclosed within CL-86-34 specifies Carrier models Continued page 168 wr~c heve ronu ho b bys product sm PO Box 2480 OSandusky Ohio 44870 419 627-1877 Fean its Best Deal Best May1985 165 WACO UPF-7 14 SCALE 72 120-4C OR LARGER SEND $200 FOR COMPLETE CATALOG OF FINE KITS IKON NWST PO Box 566 Auburn WA 98071 208941-8248 IM52IMP iOOW] Both require Two Channel Radio Mini Servos 250 MAN BATT wood construction include hardware needed $2500 ea includes shipping UPS COD add $200 $600 plans CA add 6% Dealer Inquiries Invited LINDSEY MICRO PRODUCTS 160-A No Fairview Ave Suite 104 Goleta CA 93117 805 683 2042 After 5 pm Pacific FU5RaA55 coeemucou FAI & AMA PAlTERN 60-61 ENGINE M SPAN 704 eq AREA WEIGIIT7 105 LBS DEPENGING ON EQUIP ASIC KIT$107 95 DiLUXE Krl 615905 t PU flit-Ia L&L MODEL PRODUCTS 513 Ua4elz 150 Aepidd 00 7 FOAM WING CORES CUSTOM FOAM CIiTrIIUG Custom Cut C-130 iuFuse 78 OCUN STATE AEHOMODEL ENGINEERING $14995 21 Jaycee er & Kit West Wag-wick El 02393Manufacturers 401 5285813__ iries Invited Coming Soon /4 Scale F8F Bearcat
Edition: Model Aviation - 1985/05
Page Numbers: 68, 162, 164, 165
Control Line K Scale Bill Boss OVERCOAT UNDERCOAT No am talking about what worn during cold winter months now writing columnits January about over under coatings apply paints fillers sealers use great flying creations accompanying table compatibility taken Wing Tips Newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters New York information table presented includes Aerogloss dope butyrate dope polyester resins sealers Fillers clude DuPont 30S auto primer DAP Vinyl Spackle dope-and-baby-powder polyester resins Paints include acrylic enamel lightweight very glossy acrylic lacquer lightweight semi glossy alkyd enamels heavyweight very glossy butyrate dopes very light satiny epoxy enamels moderately heavy very glossy polyurethane enamels moderately heavy high gloss quick examination chart dicates polyester resin probably compatible undercoating surface have commonly-used overcoatings appears enamels compatible top surface trim DuPont 305 DAP Vinyl Spackle fine filling repair work also see very outstand ing NO-NO overcoat use polyester resins should used over under coat except polyester resin also another caution should observed going put epoxy enamel over butyrate dope advisable spray subject coat epoxy primer will create bonding layer between dope epoxy enamel cau tion observed good chance epoxy enamel will come off masking tape used trim design outline hope presentation table 0 F J 80 P 80 F J 80 E 80 B F ALL * 80 F 80 t PATHS amelC E quer.E F J iei* FH * nOlEFG esins aneE F G Spackie.* Having trouble deciding what paint tiller sealer goes what Study table read Overcoat Undercoat column information Youll love itI comments will just thing have looking hang workshop wall know some listed items did know about before reading Wing Tips would like have larger copy table just send SASE ad dress given end column have credited Mid-Hudson Modelmasters presenting infor mation beginning column must say borrowed Corsair took Bullpen took Hangar Talk etc guess dont know really start ed big Thanks whoever put together first place Before leaving subject paints fillers let call attention new Hobbypoxy grain filler called Fast Fill named Fast Fill because dries sands fills fast Its single-component airdry material means dont mix two parts together Just open can add little thinner like Hobbypoxy thinner course brush directly bare balsa Fast Fill penetrates seals fills application Tests made material show dries quickly sands smoothly easily loading paper Two three coats needed complete grain-filling Hobbypoxy indicates Fast Fill compatible hobby paints including dopes enamels urethanes epoxies packaged half full pints use depending building needs free information entire line Hobbypoxy finishing materials Continued page 162 68 Model Aviation New product filling grain balsa prior finishing Fast Fill Hobby poxy dont mix itIt alrdries Bill has used loves column Bill Force Sweetwater NJ seems have solved reaIIsm problem scratch-built allbaisa FJ3 Fury Ducted fan model uses K&B 75cc engines spans 40 weighs 5 lb Operational features include tail hook drop fuel tank drop operational speed brakes Cockpit detail excellent Theres information column make realistic pilot faces ease MICROMARKS EXCLUSIVE 31 FLEX SHAFT TURNS ANY DREMEL MOTOTOOL INTO FLEXIBLE SHAFT MACHINE INSTANTLY LIGHTWEIGHT SUPER FLEXIBLE COMFORTABLE PEN-SIZE HANOPIECE lets work tight spots ACCEPTS ALL DREMEL ACCESSORIES AND DRILL BITS #800135thru 1/n ______ INCLUDES 4 PRECISION COLLETS AND ANGLE WRENCH Has precision bronze bearings Runs speeds up 20000 RPM #6 dial setting Dremel variable speed models 350 370 & 380 HOW TO ORDER Simply send name address & order MICROMARK Box 5112-4724 E Main St. Clinton NJ 08809 Enclose check money order $1495 Flex Shaft #14260 plus $200 insured delivery USA Moto-Tool Holder #14261 $395 postpaid purchased Flex Shaft COO add $200 per order VISA MASTER-CARD AMEX enclose account number exp date signature CALL TOLL FREE 800-225-1066 NJ 201 -464-6764 48-page tool catalog $100 FREE order pitch axis other hand para mount importance inasmuch maneuvers accomplished through vari ous rates directions pitch change will therefore consider pitch detail So talking same lan guage lets define some terms will recur throughout series First MAC Mean Aerodynamic Chord robot chord 13 tip chord 9 MAC will station wing span chord length 11 MAC technically slightly dif ferent average chord can purposes assume equal colocated MAC important since parameters discuss will refer enced position MAC Also remember tail merely smaller lifting surface therefore exhibits same aerodynamic characteristics wing including MAC CG Center Gravity important recognize CG point about outside force OUR OWN LOW COST MOTO-TOOL HOLDER ONLY $39Sppd purchased FLEX SHAFT Belt clamp werkhench wall USE WITh OUR FLEX SHAFT will act ie thrust drag lift etc Since true force momentsie tail moments pitching moments etcwill defined distance CG last differs historical Stunt practice measuring tail moments hingeline hingeline useless exercise unless comparing otherwise iden tical wing tail planforms Fore aft CG will spoken terms its location MAC CG located 15 inches leading edge 10-inch MAC 15e MAC recognized vertical spanwise location CG probably wont located defined must recognize divergences minor significant affecting pitch C/L Center Lift point MAC wings lift concen trated symmetrical airfoils C/L located 25 e MAC moves some what aft airfoil cambered deflected flaps Lift generated wing tail act respective C/Ls develop moment about CG system works just like parkyard teeter-totter force lift applied given distance fulcrum CG turning movement pitching results Aspect Ratio AR measure relationship wings span its area average chord simple tapered wings shape wings planform top view much cosmetic interest As aspect ratios get larger longer spans given area wing becomes efficient terms lift produced compared drag developed can both good bad will learn C1 Coefficient Lift nondimensional number no real value such inches pounds sex appeal etc reflects relative amount lift airfoil section generates under given set conditions Some general state ments concerning C1 given airfoil will increase increase air speed increase angle attack up point stall airflow sepa rates wings surface lift rapidly drops zero. rare occurrence competitive Stunt ship angle attack increases C1 will increase faster rate high aspect-ratios low Maximum C1 will roughly same both high low aspect ratio however low aspect ratios require higher angles attack same C1 generate greater drag per unit lift Last ly high aspect ratios stall lesser angles attack low Whew think sets stage Next month well dive right design phase see what sort options have developing Stunter thatll per form expectations Ted Fancher 158 Flying Cloud Isle Foster City CA 94404 CL Scale/Boss Continued page 68 color chart listing military scale col ors made Hobbypoxy paints write Hobbypoxy Products Division Pettit Paint Company Inc 36 Pine St PO Continued page 164 WE NOW HAVE COMPLETE LINE OF BROWN TELCO DAVIS CO-2 ENGINES INCLUDING SPARE PARTS SERVICE IROWNTEL CO A-n PEANUT$3595STANDARD TELCO$2495 CAMPUS BEE$3495TURBO 3000$3295 CAMPUS TWiN$5955TURBO 000093696 SODA CHARGER -$1295 DAVIS- COX 02CONVERSION TO CO-2$2995 NEW CATALOL No25 $150 S.LD*Imjm*me PHONE 619442-4936 UUR6W67WUUW 1019 469-6615 W BOX 2498-MA DIVISION OF BAR/RICH SALES CO 62 FAIRWAY HANNIBAL MO 63401 13141 221-8803 aster FACTURERS OF SPORT PATTERNSTINGER II PEPPERMINT PATTIE 60SPARTAN PEPPERMINT PATTIE 40SPORT/SCALE PEPPERMINT PATTIE 15HIPERBIPE 162 ModelAviation ANOTHER GREAT VALUE make face item also taken Wing Tips newsletter Mid-Hudson Modelmasters au thored Jim Kaman Scale buff problem fabricating instrument panels like ongoing fact life least headaches production scale pilot now required competition models Philosoph ically problem whether pilot necessary desirable will set aside well assume builder committed filling cockpit something closely resembling airplane pilot does proceed Jim goes say art PAW DIESELS Englands Finest 049 35 New low low prices Send $100 list Eric Cluttoui 913 Cedar Lane Tullalioma Tenn 37388 9 Direct Sales Only U l T4Il&K YOUVE SEW TAIEW mrs AIRPLANE lT SAYS J WOOb ARTS lNCLAE gineered tcot tne Backed Service Matcfl Engines have points easy starting carburetor linkage crankcase tapped smoke adapter 6 bolt prop hub mount mounting bolts muffler engines reedy run Props tanks oil spark plugs etc available extra charge except Kioritz 37 Twin Seclis-Dolmar 34 SACHSDOL MAR 31 muffler 50 HPSlbs11 oz 34 muffler 60 HP 5 lbs 37 muffler 65 HP 5 lbs 15 oz KIORITZ 24 Work Horse 32 HP 6A lbs ugrect a. tJruy TG MFGM857 High Mountain Rd North Haledon NJ 07508Phone 1-201-427-3845 COBRA New Standard Giant Models 31 HP 5Yz lbs * 149 164 ModelAviation Box 378 Rockaway NJ 07866 instructor has reasonable success pilots papier mache carving making pilot figures using several wood like Jim methods including casting Guillow kit can sculpt faces have often presented L SILICONE 10 toot coils TUBING lD.062 092 125u S POST S/coil235 265 325 54t/GOIL LARRY DODGE AERO INC 0210 MANNINGSTILLWATER MN 55082 almost overwhelming obstacle creating illusion realism Working small sizes makes job tougher fine detail hard several suppliers scale figures larger models products available superb No need GI Joe dolls now smaller figures problem can make small pilot figures authentic faces spending hours under magnifier Remember observers will inevitably look face judge figure no matter well crafted rest pilot Jim indicates has over years done much experimenting believes has finally developed best answer problem amateur cheapest fastest way begin start suitable master usually found toy box excellent plastic toys market today finding right look exact scale snap Once body carved scale see Bill Warners FF Sport/Scale Column February 1985 MA Carve Pilot Jim Kaman take face master have chosen press carefully modeling clay Remove just carefully rocking slightly removed Check impression see clean has little no distor tion magnifying glass useful youre satisfied results repeat process until good clean im pression obtained Once satis fied impression drop thick gapfilling-type CyA glue impression tease stuff carefully cracks crevices rotating mold hand toothpick scrap wood splinter will work fine careful dig mold coax glue want idea get reas onably good coverage mold especi ally nose eye detail Avoid air bubbles caused simply dumping glue mold After glue has cured casting can removed cleaned lighter fluid toothbrush Trim away excess material glue face front carved pilots head should have left flat purpose Paint face figure matte railroad colors presto pilot Jim has also used process making facsimiles gears other small objects might used cockpit elsewhere Scale planes Send building tips ideas photos CL Scale Bill Boss 77-06 269th St New Hyde Park NY 11040 CL Navy Carrier/Perry Continued page 69 abatement program yet Execu tive Council muffler rules defeated initial Contest Board ballot CL-86-33 would exempt CL Navy Car rier noise abatement regulations proposed Executive Council action expected applied com petition events 1986 order allow gradual transition avoid making existing equipment obsolete immediately CL-86-35 would preserve scale out lines Camr aircraft event CL-86-32 passes requiring pipes mufflers either external model enclosed within CL-86-34 specifies Carrier models Continued page 168 wr~c heve ronu ho b bys product sm PO Box 2480 OSandusky Ohio 44870 419 627-1877 Fean its Best Deal Best May1985 165 WACO UPF-7 14 SCALE 72 120-4C OR LARGER SEND $200 FOR COMPLETE CATALOG OF FINE KITS IKON NWST PO Box 566 Auburn WA 98071 208941-8248 IM52IMP iOOW] Both require Two Channel Radio Mini Servos 250 MAN BATT wood construction include hardware needed $2500 ea includes shipping UPS COD add $200 $600 plans CA add 6% Dealer Inquiries Invited LINDSEY MICRO PRODUCTS 160-A No Fairview Ave Suite 104 Goleta CA 93117 805 683 2042 After 5 pm Pacific FU5RaA55 coeemucou FAI & AMA PAlTERN 60-61 ENGINE M SPAN 704 eq AREA WEIGIIT7 105 LBS DEPENGING ON EQUIP ASIC KIT$107 95 DiLUXE Krl 615905 t PU flit-Ia L&L MODEL PRODUCTS 513 Ua4elz 150 Aepidd 00 7 FOAM WING CORES CUSTOM FOAM CIiTrIIUG Custom Cut C-130 iuFuse 78 OCUN STATE AEHOMODEL ENGINEERING $14995 21 Jaycee er & Kit West Wag-wick El 02393Manufacturers 401 5285813__ iries Invited Coming Soon /4 Scale F8F Bearcat