OLD TIMERS Clarence Haught PROP IT UP What size propeller use frequent point discussion old-timers gather Ive attempted little personal survey during last few contests reached no conclusions rule seems use prop works best course involves lots experimenting General rules prop selec tion modern glow engines necessarily apply ignition engines Ignition engines develop maximum power much lower rpm newer glow engines talking about original engines conversions typically 6000 8000 rpm long-stroke vintage engine capable swinging relatively large diameter higher pitch propellers An O&R 23 will turn 10-6 prop its rated rpm 7500the same prop commonly used Fox 35 CL Stunt Glow 40s flown AMA Class C often equipped 10-4 props legendary Brown Jr put out its rated power 6000 rpm 14-8 prop own rule thumb run large prop engine will swing its rated rpm Most ignition engines will run fast anyhow prop too big will bog down engine Try largest practical diameter both efficiency flywheel action Propeller performance differs greatly between brands experimentation best answer ship trimmed flying good Continued page 116 44 Model Aviation Leather glove protects Mitch Posts finger coaxes Orwick 64 engineto life Comet Sailplane designed Carl Goldberg has single wheel retracting landing gear Sub rudders stabilizer act skids aiding smooth takeoffs Nice metal engine mounts add classic look Photo Dick Stauffer Tom Van Hoose Crown Point IN launches Anderson 65powered Sailplane atthe Septemberl9 Old Timers Ignition Flyout held Bong AFB WI Photo Dick Stauffer Terry Kimert says havent Southern old-timers sent photo Coley Reynolds Atwood Triumph 51-powered Buzzard Bombshell Maggie White Miss Rebel Rally holds plane P Clark photo Anderson Pylon design gaining popularity around country version built Ed Rangus about drug aloft howling Orwick 64a much sought-after ignition engine Thats DT fuse lighter Eds mouth Photo Dick Stauffer e Nominees must known handful modelers f A nominee can model builder designer author educator manufacturer enthusiast etc some tangible way associated model aviation Send nominations J Italiano 1655 Revere Drive Brookfield WI 53005 Bob Meuser 4200 Gregory Street Oakland CA 94619 FF Old-Timers/Haught Continued page 44 still wish experiment always go back test flight procedures Use short engine runs work up full power gradually Changing props often changes torque affects power pattern Some fliers including myself like nylon props added flywheel effect must admit dont look right old-timer sometimes tend flex vibrate lower speeds ignition engines Nylon props seldom break during minor mis haps tend cause damage other parts such engine logs mounts Wood props usually break before damaging engine 1mM Strips Balsa Fuzz-Freew/out Adjustments Small -$1000 Large lshownl-$2000 Please add $100 postage P Kits ature RenIiu GEE BEE shown $525 please ad $100 Catalog /n See Y D.., DUBOIS 0 Box c Acushnet MA 027431 .....DEALER INQUIRIES INVITED course run much smoother provided properly balanced old-time designs have propeller protecting landing gear wood props last flights so-called good old days couldnt run down local hobby shop purchase near-perfect prop modeler carve own whatever material avail able want really authentic may want try prop carving Arthur Suhr W 218 N 5866 Maclynn Court Menomonee Falls WI 53051 among other offerings sells 1935 Brown Jr instruction book includes separate sheet prop carving 14 diameter 8 pitch propeller Cost $200 postpaid Also book Air Age Gas Models published Model Airplane News has article carving true pitch gas model props Gentlemens OT IILG Joe Kresnak writing Michigan Antique Modelers Newsletter promoting Old-Timer Hand Launch Glider event old-time modelers Joe doesnt want insult anyone calling old sohe has devised alternate title Gentlemen gentleman Joes definition must born before 1943 Sounds fair personally gave up HLG back 1971 saw Canadian Juniors Western Free Flight Championships getting twice altitude launch could get couple responses Joes informal survey Ill give old rubber arms go because can still throw ball across street can hardly throw ball first third base HLG still much fun kid sounds like fun Bob Larsh 455 Whitcomb Ave Indianapolis IN 46224 has plans 32 OT HLGs buck stamp will get two samples catalog also good ones Zaic yearbooks cottage industries 4-Ks Models 4202 W 172nd St Torrance CA 90504 has added old-timers kit line recent list includes Buzzard Bombshell Baby Bombshell Korda Wakefield Denny Plane Jr 72 span 41 Lamb Climber 4-Ks also handle analine dye coloring tissue tinting clear dope red yellow blue also produce several modern FF designs well built 4-Ks Korda pleased kit took USFFC Taft year trimmed six flights winding new motor first official burst 167 actual turns 12 strands A-in FAI destroyed fuselage Oh well report fly Aerodyne 3154 Falcon Pomona CA 91767 producing line prepared fuels including two special formulas ignition engines High Octane Ignition special blend legal SAM competition formulated help eliminate plug fouling works quite well converted glow engines Low Octane Ignition designed primarily original ignition engines Aerodyne also offers non-tautening nitrate dope thinner particular interest NGK CM-6 spark plugs rethreaded 10mm %24 plugs work fine engines Fe plug hole have heavier electrodes slightly larger old Champions available Clarence Haught Rt 5 Box 16 Cocur dAlene ID 83814 Flying Aces Nats/Warner Continued page 49 minute under homemade bedsheet sunshade over ogle model jump car just before shower hits try stuff couple flights quick quits run over say hello old friendthats went So much Thank God its three whole days no particular order what happen ing fly ready observe what can between hope dont too poorly eyes such great bunch fly again Bill Stroman comes up exhibit FAC Nats participation button has just saved life button covering heart has stopped Allan Schanzles catapult jet model hi-start creased about quarter inch Shades old Hopalong Cassidy bulletstopping trick silver dollar shirt pocket Pres Brunings gorgeous B-26 Marauder flies over realistic planes would ever want see Cheers applause Bob Thompson black cape helmet goggles displays WW II entry Japanese biplane has two large holes eaten local grasshoppers love silver tissue Bob Clemens backs over lovely red Comper Swift accidently chucks trash 11 6 Model Aviation NO NONSENSE BALSA STRIPPERS REPUBLIC SEABEE MR Gs PRODUCTS 1100 Michigan Box 161 Marysville MI 48040 Wing Span 70 Complete Hardware Epoxy Glass Retractable Gear 40 Powered Factors
Edition: Model Aviation - 1980/11
Page Numbers: 44, 116
OLD TIMERS Clarence Haught PROP IT UP What size propeller use frequent point discussion old-timers gather Ive attempted little personal survey during last few contests reached no conclusions rule seems use prop works best course involves lots experimenting General rules prop selec tion modern glow engines necessarily apply ignition engines Ignition engines develop maximum power much lower rpm newer glow engines talking about original engines conversions typically 6000 8000 rpm long-stroke vintage engine capable swinging relatively large diameter higher pitch propellers An O&R 23 will turn 10-6 prop its rated rpm 7500the same prop commonly used Fox 35 CL Stunt Glow 40s flown AMA Class C often equipped 10-4 props legendary Brown Jr put out its rated power 6000 rpm 14-8 prop own rule thumb run large prop engine will swing its rated rpm Most ignition engines will run fast anyhow prop too big will bog down engine Try largest practical diameter both efficiency flywheel action Propeller performance differs greatly between brands experimentation best answer ship trimmed flying good Continued page 116 44 Model Aviation Leather glove protects Mitch Posts finger coaxes Orwick 64 engineto life Comet Sailplane designed Carl Goldberg has single wheel retracting landing gear Sub rudders stabilizer act skids aiding smooth takeoffs Nice metal engine mounts add classic look Photo Dick Stauffer Tom Van Hoose Crown Point IN launches Anderson 65powered Sailplane atthe Septemberl9 Old Timers Ignition Flyout held Bong AFB WI Photo Dick Stauffer Terry Kimert says havent Southern old-timers sent photo Coley Reynolds Atwood Triumph 51-powered Buzzard Bombshell Maggie White Miss Rebel Rally holds plane P Clark photo Anderson Pylon design gaining popularity around country version built Ed Rangus about drug aloft howling Orwick 64a much sought-after ignition engine Thats DT fuse lighter Eds mouth Photo Dick Stauffer e Nominees must known handful modelers f A nominee can model builder designer author educator manufacturer enthusiast etc some tangible way associated model aviation Send nominations J Italiano 1655 Revere Drive Brookfield WI 53005 Bob Meuser 4200 Gregory Street Oakland CA 94619 FF Old-Timers/Haught Continued page 44 still wish experiment always go back test flight procedures Use short engine runs work up full power gradually Changing props often changes torque affects power pattern Some fliers including myself like nylon props added flywheel effect must admit dont look right old-timer sometimes tend flex vibrate lower speeds ignition engines Nylon props seldom break during minor mis haps tend cause damage other parts such engine logs mounts Wood props usually break before damaging engine 1mM Strips Balsa Fuzz-Freew/out Adjustments Small -$1000 Large lshownl-$2000 Please add $100 postage P Kits ature RenIiu GEE BEE shown $525 please ad $100 Catalog /n See Y D.., DUBOIS 0 Box c Acushnet MA 027431 .....DEALER INQUIRIES INVITED course run much smoother provided properly balanced old-time designs have propeller protecting landing gear wood props last flights so-called good old days couldnt run down local hobby shop purchase near-perfect prop modeler carve own whatever material avail able want really authentic may want try prop carving Arthur Suhr W 218 N 5866 Maclynn Court Menomonee Falls WI 53051 among other offerings sells 1935 Brown Jr instruction book includes separate sheet prop carving 14 diameter 8 pitch propeller Cost $200 postpaid Also book Air Age Gas Models published Model Airplane News has article carving true pitch gas model props Gentlemens OT IILG Joe Kresnak writing Michigan Antique Modelers Newsletter promoting Old-Timer Hand Launch Glider event old-time modelers Joe doesnt want insult anyone calling old sohe has devised alternate title Gentlemen gentleman Joes definition must born before 1943 Sounds fair personally gave up HLG back 1971 saw Canadian Juniors Western Free Flight Championships getting twice altitude launch could get couple responses Joes informal survey Ill give old rubber arms go because can still throw ball across street can hardly throw ball first third base HLG still much fun kid sounds like fun Bob Larsh 455 Whitcomb Ave Indianapolis IN 46224 has plans 32 OT HLGs buck stamp will get two samples catalog also good ones Zaic yearbooks cottage industries 4-Ks Models 4202 W 172nd St Torrance CA 90504 has added old-timers kit line recent list includes Buzzard Bombshell Baby Bombshell Korda Wakefield Denny Plane Jr 72 span 41 Lamb Climber 4-Ks also handle analine dye coloring tissue tinting clear dope red yellow blue also produce several modern FF designs well built 4-Ks Korda pleased kit took USFFC Taft year trimmed six flights winding new motor first official burst 167 actual turns 12 strands A-in FAI destroyed fuselage Oh well report fly Aerodyne 3154 Falcon Pomona CA 91767 producing line prepared fuels including two special formulas ignition engines High Octane Ignition special blend legal SAM competition formulated help eliminate plug fouling works quite well converted glow engines Low Octane Ignition designed primarily original ignition engines Aerodyne also offers non-tautening nitrate dope thinner particular interest NGK CM-6 spark plugs rethreaded 10mm %24 plugs work fine engines Fe plug hole have heavier electrodes slightly larger old Champions available Clarence Haught Rt 5 Box 16 Cocur dAlene ID 83814 Flying Aces Nats/Warner Continued page 49 minute under homemade bedsheet sunshade over ogle model jump car just before shower hits try stuff couple flights quick quits run over say hello old friendthats went So much Thank God its three whole days no particular order what happen ing fly ready observe what can between hope dont too poorly eyes such great bunch fly again Bill Stroman comes up exhibit FAC Nats participation button has just saved life button covering heart has stopped Allan Schanzles catapult jet model hi-start creased about quarter inch Shades old Hopalong Cassidy bulletstopping trick silver dollar shirt pocket Pres Brunings gorgeous B-26 Marauder flies over realistic planes would ever want see Cheers applause Bob Thompson black cape helmet goggles displays WW II entry Japanese biplane has two large holes eaten local grasshoppers love silver tissue Bob Clemens backs over lovely red Comper Swift accidently chucks trash 11 6 Model Aviation NO NONSENSE BALSA STRIPPERS REPUBLIC SEABEE MR Gs PRODUCTS 1100 Michigan Box 161 Marysville MI 48040 Wing Span 70 Complete Hardware Epoxy Glass Retractable Gear 40 Powered Factors