FREE FLIGHT OLD-TIMERS THIS TIME Im going catch up lot little things havent space lately First want deal couple errors have made may cause some confusion July column statement could confusing referring 35-inch motor Dietrich Convertable described Peck-Polymers kit instructions instructions tell make two different motors 12-strand motor 225 inches long very little slack 35inch motor braided 225 inches will no excess slack despite longer motor make 35-inch motor lay out six strands three loops 70 inches long folded half start braiding operation motor will 12 strands 35 inches long should clarify things sorry confused March column drew rough sketch torque versus turns graph demonstrate some characteristics rubber motors labeling contains some errors due haste Proofreading ones own stuff hard weeks later read something wrote errors jump off page area below solid curved line total energy motor area below dashed line power level climb theoretical model graph shows model has climb power first 50% turns last 50% will descending dashed curve illustrate inferior rubber may give turns good stuff may approach similar torque levels maximum turnsbut look little climb power Some points made importance measuring torque 50%of-turns level general futility counting turns instead measuring torque fact power comes Above Otto Curths Diamond T 23 designed 1940 never published now SAM-approved list competition John Pond has plans Below right Framework original 46-inch-span model 020 Replica size November 1993 91 / /K1 1K NV Curths Diamond T 23 Continued page 97 Bill Baker RC Electric Comet Clipper Speed 700 motor could used sport free flight see text Korman photo FF Old-Timers/Baker Continued page 91 last 10-20% turns possible before running out stretch completely BANG Use winding tube new edition Oldtimer Model Supply Catalog just out $2 PO Box 7334 Van Nuys CA 91409 will get hear some rubber flyers happy new lubricant called Sil-Glide available NAPA auto parts stores try let know what experience can pass thing have looking forward pointing out similarity rubber power Electric highest power ini tial burst after full charge gradual slowing shape discharge curve different Ni-Cd bat teries give much flatter slope after initial burst subjectively long plateau little change power slope plateau doing touch-and-goes Elec tric RC Comet Clipper know time land climb rate slows down consider compared what have trying teach about rubber increase power add cross-section rubber motor Electric add cells add duration run assuming same propeller/motor add length rubber motor increase cell capacity Electric can test-fly rubber model par tial winds electric partial charge some similarities free flight trim too free flight Scale Electric stupidly failed build provision thrust line adjustments could counter torque turn rudder right model persisted punching left exasperation really gave some right rudder amazement beautiful right spiral climb resulted until power fell off torque large geared pro peller balance right rudder crashed before time got high enough get some real speed built up Please learn mistakes Reminds story about kid attempted ROG model hit car model very light undam aged kid tried again same result struck car same spot point owner car con fronted kid Thats twice model has hit car know said kid Well what going about sez man think Ill add incidence sez kid reason put photo RC Old-Timer Comet Clipper free flight column want tell about motor am trying start new event anything like just want know want sport-fly free flights about six feet span some reason want use gas power believe Graupner Speed 700 motor distributed Hobby Lobby ideal am flying three channels RC free flight would lighter weight 44 pounds motor supplied 10 x 6 propeller will provide climb judge about like Brown Jr quite peaked out am using eight Sanyo 1400 SCR cells free flight 650 SCR cells would have about minute usable power half weight motor very inexpensive Its just suggestion some may want fly full-size six-foot Old-Timer instead 020- 049-powered replica have hesitated because cost noise gas engine time time plug MECA Model Engine Collectors Association list engine condition classifications Use terms definitions corre spond potential trading partners buyers sellers everyone will happy ENGINE CONDITION CLASSIFICATIONS NIB New-In-Box Unused original factory supplied carton box complete accessories NNew Unused complete parts originally soldhy fac tory Model Airplane Design Performance Modeler book must model airplane builder flyers library covers model airplane design performance modeler mind Instead complicated mathematics 280 pages numerous illustrations examples used Topics arranged sequence leads illustrated example design radio control model airplane Early Developments Terminology Aerodynamics Stability Control Performance Design Author Chevalierprofessor emeritus aeros p ace engineer ing 50 years model building AMA 7503 designer several RPVs consultant RPVnianufac turers NASA research scientist professional engineer commercial pilot $2495 shipping handing PITCH Toll Free Orders MC VISA & AMEX 1-800-364-BOOK CheckorM 0 Challenge Engineering Inc PO Box 67 New Baden TX 77870 TX residents add tax -- US currency November 1993 97 IJflF LAJI40 eBRASS HARDWARE LID WILL STORE 2 TRANSMITTERS THREE SLIDE OUT DRAWERS eALSO INCLUDED CONTROL PANEL FUEL PUMP 1 GAL FUEL BOTTLE 1 2V RECHARGABLE NO MAINTENANCE BATTERY eACTUAL SIZE 1&x 1&x 1P/4 Send Check Money Order $16995 0 Shipping & Handling NORTHWEST HOBBY TECHNOLOGIES 322 E St SE Auburn WA 98002 206 939-0884 R/C BEGINNERS hobby loses aboul halt its potenfial fliers because Ihey tail 10 sutcesstully solo IT ISNT THEIR FAULT ITS THE PLANES FAULT Nol lusI some buf mosl ot Ihe advertised framers impossible Ihe average beginner solo wilh seems Ihe norm trash ruin 4 5 planes before becoming successful both stupid coslly 10 med ion real tirn-otf tor oem sludenl quite unnecessary YOU COULD SOLD YOUR FIRST TIME UP Thanks 10 mosl exlensive framer flighf testing ever conducled hobby can now know advance ones fly slow hands ott stable easy enough tor Grandma lust so-so intermediale ones deserve Ihe framer label Send $350 plus 52 postage EASE-OF-FLYING RATINGS OF R/C TRAINERS Over 40 currently available Irain ers evaluated including ARFs Also grades easeof-building explains Irainer aerodynamics dares address questions poor IrainersIhan good trainers marketed does no warn aboul Guarantee money back nof say Ihaf Ihe eye-opening candid enlight ening time-saving money-saving trustration sparing RIG publication have ever read Send chock money order Jim Waterman 3818 Deerfisld Dr San Antonio TX 78218 iPLAJ o#x ~3iYO44~ 04 HOWAItDUOIEVAUBIPX 4tSPANDAU U bciVICKERS NT ma ne ncnrnJ.Lfl n s.n,na,.. MODELER THE FINEST DETAIL FOR DISPLAY OR SCALE FLYING MODELS IN 2 & 3 SCALES FOR MORE INFORMATiON BIND SASE FOR ILLUSTRATED ORDER FORM WILLIAMS BROS INC PAWNEE SAN MARCOS CA 92060 45-60 2-S7ROKE 7-75 LBS mmo ppjcs$16000 ALL KITS FEATURE HAND LAID FIBERGLASS FVSELAGEPANEL LINES & SCALE DETAILSFOAM CORE WINGS & MACHINE C FORMERS & BULKJIEAD& SEE YOUR LOCAL DFALER OR CALL HOBBY IL4NGAR 606-285-5746 FOR IMAEDL47E DElIVERY DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME WEACCEPT VL4 M4SIERCARD & DISCOVER CAROL WEGL4DLYSHIP COD SHIPPING& IL4NDLJNG 15 09 PER KIT COmINENTAL Li&4 OilIER AREAS CALL KENTtICKY RESIDEinS ADD 6% S4LES TAX HOBBY HANGAR ISA FULL SER VICE HOBBY SHOP WITH OVER 11000 ITEMS IN STOCI CATALOGS AVAILABLE $400 EACH WIREBATE ON FIRST ORDER SPECiFY PLANEHEUCOPTER OR CAR ae F/MR SCALE MCVELSI 155 LLOYD AlEI 606-285-5746 PY&1W 606-285SP FAX ALSO AVAIL ABLE Focke WuIf 190 $18500 P-40 Warhawk $16000 P-47 Thunderbolt $16000 LNLike New Run once twice slight marks lug otherwise new EXCExcellent Run several times slight marks mounting lugs slight dis coloration cylinder head cylinder due heat Very slight scratches engine Good compression Light wear bearing sufaces VG Very Good As excellent used perhaps several hours still good compression slightly enlarged mounting lugholes two deep scratches moderately discol ored spots small chips out slightly bent fins bearing surfaces discernably worn GGood As very good compres sion bearing surface wear sufficient warrant rating code considered minimum condition interior nec essary use type engine FFair Compression sufficient ran engine reduced power output Bearing surfaces well worn missing cylinder head fins open mounting lugs heavy scratches blemishes exterior repaired parts unacceptable display engine possibly capable G VG rating overhauled and/or new parts added PWorn out poor compression will run present condition Worn broken and/or surfaces badly scarred suitable use dis play May referred parts~ engine really engines should member MECA send SASE details Bob McClelland 3007 Travis Street Westlake LA 70669 new club somewhat similar MECA provide newsletter-swapsheet free ads members KAPA Kits Plans Antiquitous SASE Lou Buffardi should get details Maybe final two outfits should anonymous people have motors kits plans can ever use just cant quit tend peopleI keep buying kits plans know cant get them.but brings plea sure real fun MECA KAPA hunt some out-of-print plan maga zine book joy tracking down last fun corresponding people just crazy am Buffardis address 400 Windward Passage Slidell LA 70458 some plans sources DB Enterprises 5901 Wedgemont Circle North Fort Worth TX 76133 has $1 catalog 020 Replica Old-Timer models scaled down well engineered structures new size photo-reduced also some Nostalgia-era designs National Free Flight Societys Nostalgia events about 150 square inches drawing catalog can see what model looks like 43 plans catalog its growing buck will get five-page list Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Dr Louisville KY 40207 list mostly old Scale models Comet Berkeley Cleve land Scientific Peerless some obscure ones like Paul Jones Inc SL Louis Model Airplane Company some duration models such Comet Mercury BURD Korda Endurance Prices very reasonable $2 small rubber models $350 43-inch-span Korda think pre dates famous Wakefield winner has three-piece wing freewheeling pro peller fine flier Jack Fike producing replica kits Comet other manufacturers old-time stick-and-tissue models including Megow Scientific Peerless can get list SASE Scale Right Models 1219 5 Washington Bloomington IN 47401 4VINYLWRITE CUSTOM LETFERING Providing elegant time saving economical finishing touch modelers lettering comes prespaced aligned-saving hours cutting fuss aligning individual letters decal text custom computer Cut ifl 3M premium cast vinyl 2 mils thin24 colors & 15 typestylesinc Military Block 1/4 12 highStencil Mask color outlining well stars symbols& much morel pricea can eaaily affordli example AMA er 1/2 high $150 1 high $250 2 high $350 P&H CA res add tax STEP SACK LOMIAS V00R Call wnte complete info pack & sample ITS FREE Custom Letter Today MAIL ORDER ONLY 98 Model Aviation NA 150Made USA SPECIFICATIONS WING SPAN 65 ENGINE STZE WEIGHT U TO APPLY VINVLWRITE CUSTOM LElTERING 16043 Tulaa Street Granada Hilla CA 91344 cairn 363-7131 10AM 4PM Pacific Mon thru Thur
Edition: Model Aviation - 1993/11
Page Numbers: 91, 97, 98
FREE FLIGHT OLD-TIMERS THIS TIME Im going catch up lot little things havent space lately First want deal couple errors have made may cause some confusion July column statement could confusing referring 35-inch motor Dietrich Convertable described Peck-Polymers kit instructions instructions tell make two different motors 12-strand motor 225 inches long very little slack 35inch motor braided 225 inches will no excess slack despite longer motor make 35-inch motor lay out six strands three loops 70 inches long folded half start braiding operation motor will 12 strands 35 inches long should clarify things sorry confused March column drew rough sketch torque versus turns graph demonstrate some characteristics rubber motors labeling contains some errors due haste Proofreading ones own stuff hard weeks later read something wrote errors jump off page area below solid curved line total energy motor area below dashed line power level climb theoretical model graph shows model has climb power first 50% turns last 50% will descending dashed curve illustrate inferior rubber may give turns good stuff may approach similar torque levels maximum turnsbut look little climb power Some points made importance measuring torque 50%of-turns level general futility counting turns instead measuring torque fact power comes Above Otto Curths Diamond T 23 designed 1940 never published now SAM-approved list competition John Pond has plans Below right Framework original 46-inch-span model 020 Replica size November 1993 91 / /K1 1K NV Curths Diamond T 23 Continued page 97 Bill Baker RC Electric Comet Clipper Speed 700 motor could used sport free flight see text Korman photo FF Old-Timers/Baker Continued page 91 last 10-20% turns possible before running out stretch completely BANG Use winding tube new edition Oldtimer Model Supply Catalog just out $2 PO Box 7334 Van Nuys CA 91409 will get hear some rubber flyers happy new lubricant called Sil-Glide available NAPA auto parts stores try let know what experience can pass thing have looking forward pointing out similarity rubber power Electric highest power ini tial burst after full charge gradual slowing shape discharge curve different Ni-Cd bat teries give much flatter slope after initial burst subjectively long plateau little change power slope plateau doing touch-and-goes Elec tric RC Comet Clipper know time land climb rate slows down consider compared what have trying teach about rubber increase power add cross-section rubber motor Electric add cells add duration run assuming same propeller/motor add length rubber motor increase cell capacity Electric can test-fly rubber model par tial winds electric partial charge some similarities free flight trim too free flight Scale Electric stupidly failed build provision thrust line adjustments could counter torque turn rudder right model persisted punching left exasperation really gave some right rudder amazement beautiful right spiral climb resulted until power fell off torque large geared pro peller balance right rudder crashed before time got high enough get some real speed built up Please learn mistakes Reminds story about kid attempted ROG model hit car model very light undam aged kid tried again same result struck car same spot point owner car con fronted kid Thats twice model has hit car know said kid Well what going about sez man think Ill add incidence sez kid reason put photo RC Old-Timer Comet Clipper free flight column want tell about motor am trying start new event anything like just want know want sport-fly free flights about six feet span some reason want use gas power believe Graupner Speed 700 motor distributed Hobby Lobby ideal am flying three channels RC free flight would lighter weight 44 pounds motor supplied 10 x 6 propeller will provide climb judge about like Brown Jr quite peaked out am using eight Sanyo 1400 SCR cells free flight 650 SCR cells would have about minute usable power half weight motor very inexpensive Its just suggestion some may want fly full-size six-foot Old-Timer instead 020- 049-powered replica have hesitated because cost noise gas engine time time plug MECA Model Engine Collectors Association list engine condition classifications Use terms definitions corre spond potential trading partners buyers sellers everyone will happy ENGINE CONDITION CLASSIFICATIONS NIB New-In-Box Unused original factory supplied carton box complete accessories NNew Unused complete parts originally soldhy fac tory Model Airplane Design Performance Modeler book must model airplane builder flyers library covers model airplane design performance modeler mind Instead complicated mathematics 280 pages numerous illustrations examples used Topics arranged sequence leads illustrated example design radio control model airplane Early Developments Terminology Aerodynamics Stability Control Performance Design Author Chevalierprofessor emeritus aeros p ace engineer ing 50 years model building AMA 7503 designer several RPVs consultant RPVnianufac turers NASA research scientist professional engineer commercial pilot $2495 shipping handing PITCH Toll Free Orders MC VISA & AMEX 1-800-364-BOOK CheckorM 0 Challenge Engineering Inc PO Box 67 New Baden TX 77870 TX residents add tax -- US currency November 1993 97 IJflF LAJI40 eBRASS HARDWARE LID WILL STORE 2 TRANSMITTERS THREE SLIDE OUT DRAWERS eALSO INCLUDED CONTROL PANEL FUEL PUMP 1 GAL FUEL BOTTLE 1 2V RECHARGABLE NO MAINTENANCE BATTERY eACTUAL SIZE 1&x 1&x 1P/4 Send Check Money Order $16995 0 Shipping & Handling NORTHWEST HOBBY TECHNOLOGIES 322 E St SE Auburn WA 98002 206 939-0884 R/C BEGINNERS hobby loses aboul halt its potenfial fliers because Ihey tail 10 sutcesstully solo IT ISNT THEIR FAULT ITS THE PLANES FAULT Nol lusI some buf mosl ot Ihe advertised framers impossible Ihe average beginner solo wilh seems Ihe norm trash ruin 4 5 planes before becoming successful both stupid coslly 10 med ion real tirn-otf tor oem sludenl quite unnecessary YOU COULD SOLD YOUR FIRST TIME UP Thanks 10 mosl exlensive framer flighf testing ever conducled hobby can now know advance ones fly slow hands ott stable easy enough tor Grandma lust so-so intermediale ones deserve Ihe framer label Send $350 plus 52 postage EASE-OF-FLYING RATINGS OF R/C TRAINERS Over 40 currently available Irain ers evaluated including ARFs Also grades easeof-building explains Irainer aerodynamics dares address questions poor IrainersIhan good trainers marketed does no warn aboul Guarantee money back nof say Ihaf Ihe eye-opening candid enlight ening time-saving money-saving trustration sparing RIG publication have ever read Send chock money order Jim Waterman 3818 Deerfisld Dr San Antonio TX 78218 iPLAJ o#x ~3iYO44~ 04 HOWAItDUOIEVAUBIPX 4tSPANDAU U bciVICKERS NT ma ne ncnrnJ.Lfl n s.n,na,.. MODELER THE FINEST DETAIL FOR DISPLAY OR SCALE FLYING MODELS IN 2 & 3 SCALES FOR MORE INFORMATiON BIND SASE FOR ILLUSTRATED ORDER FORM WILLIAMS BROS INC PAWNEE SAN MARCOS CA 92060 45-60 2-S7ROKE 7-75 LBS mmo ppjcs$16000 ALL KITS FEATURE HAND LAID FIBERGLASS FVSELAGEPANEL LINES & SCALE DETAILSFOAM CORE WINGS & MACHINE C FORMERS & BULKJIEAD& SEE YOUR LOCAL DFALER OR CALL HOBBY IL4NGAR 606-285-5746 FOR IMAEDL47E DElIVERY DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME WEACCEPT VL4 M4SIERCARD & DISCOVER CAROL WEGL4DLYSHIP COD SHIPPING& IL4NDLJNG 15 09 PER KIT COmINENTAL Li&4 OilIER AREAS CALL KENTtICKY RESIDEinS ADD 6% S4LES TAX HOBBY HANGAR ISA FULL SER VICE HOBBY SHOP WITH OVER 11000 ITEMS IN STOCI CATALOGS AVAILABLE $400 EACH WIREBATE ON FIRST ORDER SPECiFY PLANEHEUCOPTER OR CAR ae F/MR SCALE MCVELSI 155 LLOYD AlEI 606-285-5746 PY&1W 606-285SP FAX ALSO AVAIL ABLE Focke WuIf 190 $18500 P-40 Warhawk $16000 P-47 Thunderbolt $16000 LNLike New Run once twice slight marks lug otherwise new EXCExcellent Run several times slight marks mounting lugs slight dis coloration cylinder head cylinder due heat Very slight scratches engine Good compression Light wear bearing sufaces VG Very Good As excellent used perhaps several hours still good compression slightly enlarged mounting lugholes two deep scratches moderately discol ored spots small chips out slightly bent fins bearing surfaces discernably worn GGood As very good compres sion bearing surface wear sufficient warrant rating code considered minimum condition interior nec essary use type engine FFair Compression sufficient ran engine reduced power output Bearing surfaces well worn missing cylinder head fins open mounting lugs heavy scratches blemishes exterior repaired parts unacceptable display engine possibly capable G VG rating overhauled and/or new parts added PWorn out poor compression will run present condition Worn broken and/or surfaces badly scarred suitable use dis play May referred parts~ engine really engines should member MECA send SASE details Bob McClelland 3007 Travis Street Westlake LA 70669 new club somewhat similar MECA provide newsletter-swapsheet free ads members KAPA Kits Plans Antiquitous SASE Lou Buffardi should get details Maybe final two outfits should anonymous people have motors kits plans can ever use just cant quit tend peopleI keep buying kits plans know cant get them.but brings plea sure real fun MECA KAPA hunt some out-of-print plan maga zine book joy tracking down last fun corresponding people just crazy am Buffardis address 400 Windward Passage Slidell LA 70458 some plans sources DB Enterprises 5901 Wedgemont Circle North Fort Worth TX 76133 has $1 catalog 020 Replica Old-Timer models scaled down well engineered structures new size photo-reduced also some Nostalgia-era designs National Free Flight Societys Nostalgia events about 150 square inches drawing catalog can see what model looks like 43 plans catalog its growing buck will get five-page list Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Dr Louisville KY 40207 list mostly old Scale models Comet Berkeley Cleve land Scientific Peerless some obscure ones like Paul Jones Inc SL Louis Model Airplane Company some duration models such Comet Mercury BURD Korda Endurance Prices very reasonable $2 small rubber models $350 43-inch-span Korda think pre dates famous Wakefield winner has three-piece wing freewheeling pro peller fine flier Jack Fike producing replica kits Comet other manufacturers old-time stick-and-tissue models including Megow Scientific Peerless can get list SASE Scale Right Models 1219 5 Washington Bloomington IN 47401 4VINYLWRITE CUSTOM LETFERING Providing elegant time saving economical finishing touch modelers lettering comes prespaced aligned-saving hours cutting fuss aligning individual letters decal text custom computer Cut ifl 3M premium cast vinyl 2 mils thin24 colors & 15 typestylesinc Military Block 1/4 12 highStencil Mask color outlining well stars symbols& much morel pricea can eaaily affordli example AMA er 1/2 high $150 1 high $250 2 high $350 P&H CA res add tax STEP SACK LOMIAS V00R Call wnte complete info pack & sample ITS FREE Custom Letter Today MAIL ORDER ONLY 98 Model Aviation NA 150Made USA SPECIFICATIONS WING SPAN 65 ENGINE STZE WEIGHT U TO APPLY VINVLWRITE CUSTOM LElTERING 16043 Tulaa Street Granada Hilla CA 91344 cairn 363-7131 10AM 4PM Pacific Mon thru Thur
Edition: Model Aviation - 1993/11
Page Numbers: 91, 97, 98
FREE FLIGHT OLD-TIMERS THIS TIME Im going catch up lot little things havent space lately First want deal couple errors have made may cause some confusion July column statement could confusing referring 35-inch motor Dietrich Convertable described Peck-Polymers kit instructions instructions tell make two different motors 12-strand motor 225 inches long very little slack 35inch motor braided 225 inches will no excess slack despite longer motor make 35-inch motor lay out six strands three loops 70 inches long folded half start braiding operation motor will 12 strands 35 inches long should clarify things sorry confused March column drew rough sketch torque versus turns graph demonstrate some characteristics rubber motors labeling contains some errors due haste Proofreading ones own stuff hard weeks later read something wrote errors jump off page area below solid curved line total energy motor area below dashed line power level climb theoretical model graph shows model has climb power first 50% turns last 50% will descending dashed curve illustrate inferior rubber may give turns good stuff may approach similar torque levels maximum turnsbut look little climb power Some points made importance measuring torque 50%of-turns level general futility counting turns instead measuring torque fact power comes Above Otto Curths Diamond T 23 designed 1940 never published now SAM-approved list competition John Pond has plans Below right Framework original 46-inch-span model 020 Replica size November 1993 91 / /K1 1K NV Curths Diamond T 23 Continued page 97 Bill Baker RC Electric Comet Clipper Speed 700 motor could used sport free flight see text Korman photo FF Old-Timers/Baker Continued page 91 last 10-20% turns possible before running out stretch completely BANG Use winding tube new edition Oldtimer Model Supply Catalog just out $2 PO Box 7334 Van Nuys CA 91409 will get hear some rubber flyers happy new lubricant called Sil-Glide available NAPA auto parts stores try let know what experience can pass thing have looking forward pointing out similarity rubber power Electric highest power ini tial burst after full charge gradual slowing shape discharge curve different Ni-Cd bat teries give much flatter slope after initial burst subjectively long plateau little change power slope plateau doing touch-and-goes Elec tric RC Comet Clipper know time land climb rate slows down consider compared what have trying teach about rubber increase power add cross-section rubber motor Electric add cells add duration run assuming same propeller/motor add length rubber motor increase cell capacity Electric can test-fly rubber model par tial winds electric partial charge some similarities free flight trim too free flight Scale Electric stupidly failed build provision thrust line adjustments could counter torque turn rudder right model persisted punching left exasperation really gave some right rudder amazement beautiful right spiral climb resulted until power fell off torque large geared pro peller balance right rudder crashed before time got high enough get some real speed built up Please learn mistakes Reminds story about kid attempted ROG model hit car model very light undam aged kid tried again same result struck car same spot point owner car con fronted kid Thats twice model has hit car know said kid Well what going about sez man think Ill add incidence sez kid reason put photo RC Old-Timer Comet Clipper free flight column want tell about motor am trying start new event anything like just want know want sport-fly free flights about six feet span some reason want use gas power believe Graupner Speed 700 motor distributed Hobby Lobby ideal am flying three channels RC free flight would lighter weight 44 pounds motor supplied 10 x 6 propeller will provide climb judge about like Brown Jr quite peaked out am using eight Sanyo 1400 SCR cells free flight 650 SCR cells would have about minute usable power half weight motor very inexpensive Its just suggestion some may want fly full-size six-foot Old-Timer instead 020- 049-powered replica have hesitated because cost noise gas engine time time plug MECA Model Engine Collectors Association list engine condition classifications Use terms definitions corre spond potential trading partners buyers sellers everyone will happy ENGINE CONDITION CLASSIFICATIONS NIB New-In-Box Unused original factory supplied carton box complete accessories NNew Unused complete parts originally soldhy fac tory Model Airplane Design Performance Modeler book must model airplane builder flyers library covers model airplane design performance modeler mind Instead complicated mathematics 280 pages numerous illustrations examples used Topics arranged sequence leads illustrated example design radio control model airplane Early Developments Terminology Aerodynamics Stability Control Performance Design Author Chevalierprofessor emeritus aeros p ace engineer ing 50 years model building AMA 7503 designer several RPVs consultant RPVnianufac turers NASA research scientist professional engineer commercial pilot $2495 shipping handing PITCH Toll Free Orders MC VISA & AMEX 1-800-364-BOOK CheckorM 0 Challenge Engineering Inc PO Box 67 New Baden TX 77870 TX residents add tax -- US currency November 1993 97 IJflF LAJI40 eBRASS HARDWARE LID WILL STORE 2 TRANSMITTERS THREE SLIDE OUT DRAWERS eALSO INCLUDED CONTROL PANEL FUEL PUMP 1 GAL FUEL BOTTLE 1 2V RECHARGABLE NO MAINTENANCE BATTERY eACTUAL SIZE 1&x 1&x 1P/4 Send Check Money Order $16995 0 Shipping & Handling NORTHWEST HOBBY TECHNOLOGIES 322 E St SE Auburn WA 98002 206 939-0884 R/C BEGINNERS hobby loses aboul halt its potenfial fliers because Ihey tail 10 sutcesstully solo IT ISNT THEIR FAULT ITS THE PLANES FAULT Nol lusI some buf mosl ot Ihe advertised framers impossible Ihe average beginner solo wilh seems Ihe norm trash ruin 4 5 planes before becoming successful both stupid coslly 10 med ion real tirn-otf tor oem sludenl quite unnecessary YOU COULD SOLD YOUR FIRST TIME UP Thanks 10 mosl exlensive framer flighf testing ever conducled hobby can now know advance ones fly slow hands ott stable easy enough tor Grandma lust so-so intermediale ones deserve Ihe framer label Send $350 plus 52 postage EASE-OF-FLYING RATINGS OF R/C TRAINERS Over 40 currently available Irain ers evaluated including ARFs Also grades easeof-building explains Irainer aerodynamics dares address questions poor IrainersIhan good trainers marketed does no warn aboul Guarantee money back nof say Ihaf Ihe eye-opening candid enlight ening time-saving money-saving trustration sparing RIG publication have ever read Send chock money order Jim Waterman 3818 Deerfisld Dr San Antonio TX 78218 iPLAJ o#x ~3iYO44~ 04 HOWAItDUOIEVAUBIPX 4tSPANDAU U bciVICKERS NT ma ne ncnrnJ.Lfl n s.n,na,.. MODELER THE FINEST DETAIL FOR DISPLAY OR SCALE FLYING MODELS IN 2 & 3 SCALES FOR MORE INFORMATiON BIND SASE FOR ILLUSTRATED ORDER FORM WILLIAMS BROS INC PAWNEE SAN MARCOS CA 92060 45-60 2-S7ROKE 7-75 LBS mmo ppjcs$16000 ALL KITS FEATURE HAND LAID FIBERGLASS FVSELAGEPANEL LINES & SCALE DETAILSFOAM CORE WINGS & MACHINE C FORMERS & BULKJIEAD& SEE YOUR LOCAL DFALER OR CALL HOBBY IL4NGAR 606-285-5746 FOR IMAEDL47E DElIVERY DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME WEACCEPT VL4 M4SIERCARD & DISCOVER CAROL WEGL4DLYSHIP COD SHIPPING& IL4NDLJNG 15 09 PER KIT COmINENTAL Li&4 OilIER AREAS CALL KENTtICKY RESIDEinS ADD 6% S4LES TAX HOBBY HANGAR ISA FULL SER VICE HOBBY SHOP WITH OVER 11000 ITEMS IN STOCI CATALOGS AVAILABLE $400 EACH WIREBATE ON FIRST ORDER SPECiFY PLANEHEUCOPTER OR CAR ae F/MR SCALE MCVELSI 155 LLOYD AlEI 606-285-5746 PY&1W 606-285SP FAX ALSO AVAIL ABLE Focke WuIf 190 $18500 P-40 Warhawk $16000 P-47 Thunderbolt $16000 LNLike New Run once twice slight marks lug otherwise new EXCExcellent Run several times slight marks mounting lugs slight dis coloration cylinder head cylinder due heat Very slight scratches engine Good compression Light wear bearing sufaces VG Very Good As excellent used perhaps several hours still good compression slightly enlarged mounting lugholes two deep scratches moderately discol ored spots small chips out slightly bent fins bearing surfaces discernably worn GGood As very good compres sion bearing surface wear sufficient warrant rating code considered minimum condition interior nec essary use type engine FFair Compression sufficient ran engine reduced power output Bearing surfaces well worn missing cylinder head fins open mounting lugs heavy scratches blemishes exterior repaired parts unacceptable display engine possibly capable G VG rating overhauled and/or new parts added PWorn out poor compression will run present condition Worn broken and/or surfaces badly scarred suitable use dis play May referred parts~ engine really engines should member MECA send SASE details Bob McClelland 3007 Travis Street Westlake LA 70669 new club somewhat similar MECA provide newsletter-swapsheet free ads members KAPA Kits Plans Antiquitous SASE Lou Buffardi should get details Maybe final two outfits should anonymous people have motors kits plans can ever use just cant quit tend peopleI keep buying kits plans know cant get them.but brings plea sure real fun MECA KAPA hunt some out-of-print plan maga zine book joy tracking down last fun corresponding people just crazy am Buffardis address 400 Windward Passage Slidell LA 70458 some plans sources DB Enterprises 5901 Wedgemont Circle North Fort Worth TX 76133 has $1 catalog 020 Replica Old-Timer models scaled down well engineered structures new size photo-reduced also some Nostalgia-era designs National Free Flight Societys Nostalgia events about 150 square inches drawing catalog can see what model looks like 43 plans catalog its growing buck will get five-page list Charles F Schultz 910 Broadfields Dr Louisville KY 40207 list mostly old Scale models Comet Berkeley Cleve land Scientific Peerless some obscure ones like Paul Jones Inc SL Louis Model Airplane Company some duration models such Comet Mercury BURD Korda Endurance Prices very reasonable $2 small rubber models $350 43-inch-span Korda think pre dates famous Wakefield winner has three-piece wing freewheeling pro peller fine flier Jack Fike producing replica kits Comet other manufacturers old-time stick-and-tissue models including Megow Scientific Peerless can get list SASE Scale Right Models 1219 5 Washington Bloomington IN 47401 4VINYLWRITE CUSTOM LETFERING Providing elegant time saving economical finishing touch modelers lettering comes prespaced aligned-saving hours cutting fuss aligning individual letters decal text custom computer Cut ifl 3M premium cast vinyl 2 mils thin24 colors & 15 typestylesinc Military Block 1/4 12 highStencil Mask color outlining well stars symbols& much morel pricea can eaaily affordli example AMA er 1/2 high $150 1 high $250 2 high $350 P&H CA res add tax STEP SACK LOMIAS V00R Call wnte complete info pack & sample ITS FREE Custom Letter Today MAIL ORDER ONLY 98 Model Aviation NA 150Made USA SPECIFICATIONS WING SPAN 65 ENGINE STZE WEIGHT U TO APPLY VINVLWRITE CUSTOM LElTERING 16043 Tulaa Street Granada Hilla CA 91344 cairn 363-7131 10AM 4PM Pacific Mon thru Thur