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Edition: Model Aviation - 1999/08
Page Numbers: 6, 165, 166

As ModelAviations table contents suggests indeed something everyone hobby has important part life 50 years especially appreciate magazines editors have given ample space primary modeling interest Free Flight Virtually part magazine read reread useful ideas interesting reports abound occasion someones ideas meritindeed demanda response such item Letter Editor June 1999 issue writer Lance Novak claims ten years RC flying has learned ins outs buying equipment shares wisdom regarding advantages buying mail order large hobby supermarkets Los Angeles area too live Los Angeles too have bought supermarkets Novak chooses call occasions have shopped large chain price discounters found employees both friendly knowledgeableabout Radio Control Period What Novak unable realize apparently some us enjoy different aspects great hobby large chain discounters arent exactly place turn silk tissue FAI Tan II rubber engine shutoff timers etc Perhaps Novak could find time between encounters rude little jerk small bobby shop would discover some other facets hobby price discounters arent concerned about what about small hobby shop owner mother ignorant rude Well Novak went hobby shop attitude letter reeks can understand given respect feels deserves sum Lance Novak ten years RC flying will probably continue regard owners small hobby shops price-gougers will continue respect people fill real need have treated fairly honestly courteously half century will continue support owners ensure survival thats whats really important Lee Hunt Northridge California Lance Novak pitied censured concludes diatribe characterizing small hobby shop owners greedy price-gougers going go out business admits whats really important him bargain-hunting simply reveals own mercenary values priorities crocodile tears old time hobby shops impressive Especially repeats comes down saving money can hope enough modelers nut share bean-counting bottom-line view whats really important modeling keep old time hobby shops alive would willing place substantial bet 100 modelers selected random asked Whats really important hobby getting good deal equipment would predominant answer would further willing wager personal relationships would high list mail-order catalog cant provide Small hobby shop owners provide another personal quality mail-order hobby supermarket stores cant touch personal service Both qualities valuable intangible commodities rare todays marketplace kindest thing can say about Mr Novak seems know price everything value nothing Bill Darkow Olympia Washington great dismay read Mr Novaks letter June issue man has apparently shopping wrong places live within 40 miles several hobby shops patronize several sold Top Flite P-40 $5 less mail-order places sold four 25 engines couple dollars less sale price major mail-order houses Some items expensive locally through mail have satisfaction knowing money staying right Colorado Id just soon let people New York Chicago support economies Ill support Also have several bad experiences mail-order places ordered covering P-40 bought locally waited about five months before finally canceled order Its back order got Two months went no word finally ordered covering iron about same price what Continued page 165 6 Model Aviation ers tc thc Eclitcr Hobby Shops Letters Continued page 6 owed covering never got received notice that backordered finally went through catalog gave four five options last said everything catalog backordered donate money local RC clubs next event prize got glow plugs list still couple bucks Another mail outfit charged shipping cost both halves order backordered stupidly paid theyll never get business agaln Nope Ill stick [local sources] No mailorder thank Wes Nelson Superior Colorado Its obvious Mr Novak works someone else probably first person raise hand raises offered suppose comments typical society first people living what can get out things surprise surprisehe first admit trades mail-order houses password greed invented word Does Mr Novak think mail-order houses performing acts kindness accept money? spent 30 years mass-marketing business yet would last accuse small business being greedy pricegouging yes greedy yes knocked out competition fast stood up get hit fact hobby shop owners have Masters degrees marketing yes lot marketing ignorance hobby business lot performing very well indeed Mr Novak think hobby shops greedy aint seen nothing until see what happens mail-order houses wipe hobby shops out friend will see what happens few can corner market Just keep buying eventually bury yourself As hobby shops always beat mail-order houses sizable margin shall continue buy Bob Wilson Franklin North Carolina Since American Aircraft Modeler days Ive always enjoyed ModelAviation AMA until now extremely disgusted editors publishing letter Mr Lance Novak June 1999 issue Disgusted two reasons 1 op-ed type letter very thinly disguised personal attack hobby shops general remarkable AMA shop owners particular 2 would allow egregious display wanton hubris ego get national international exposure personal apology mother son would step way correcting affront insult have done 879P-40K$2250 CL Stunt Johnston spans 59 inches 2 sheets No 136 Fiesele Starch AC Scala wodel fo 23 45 5channol has both slots flaps No 169 flennyplene AC cesro awed cabin snosel sit row 1937 19-25 No262 Crastrmoster CL crash proof trainer Two szesfh35ad S5t4Spowe No302 Mini F16 AC Satpolos 549 docted tan sport fljslo2 charnel Balsa odogs tail ad hseage stront 00 No447 112A Miss Ansorice AC Old Tiwe VaS Tecaco Bode 049 010w 2 cfnaonels No061 Gee Boo Model F AC Goldar Age Racer Spans 72-in Vs scale fo 65 powar 3 plan sheets No702 HejOltel NE 58 SF Scale wodel 011924 Getwan wonoplane ForHiune Min-d gearadeecftic nnofor Spans2e No714 Mod Doek AC oser-Inendly Sped fliefot relaxed slow fh0ht Focelsaf low slow Baneces 25-30 powet Spans 55 5 2 plan sheets. No720 Mioutemon FF Etank Zaros pepalar all-balsa-cccead rabbe-powered Bode facen 10w PopclarScience Jane f94f Spans 20n No733 1041 Taplererelt AC qoaner-scale design caprores rho niqoe fly hg Sualifies ba toll-scale Tayloncrah foe-inch span 2 plan sheets. No739 Jounte ACOalpiane has oaks pedorrnance 1 22inch span inolcoes fall consrractor trot 3 pan sheefsl No709 Arribe FE Hand-held catapalt girder Jean Andrews No614 0630 AC Electric flying aang useighs 46 conoes spans 641s inches 2 sheets No 61 0 Teplor Cub AC Sport Ocale three channels spans hR inches Na 818 Nibble 300 FE ISA record holder bp NsB Per spans 5510 inches No022 Otepheno Akro AC Laser predecessor bp Sarpolos 32 power spans 95 inches No820 Twloter Spnn AC Bodel bp Richardson 25 p ower spans 4d inches No826 Piper Powoen Brase FE Robber Scala cy Ear Stahl spans 30 lenhes No826 Tarho Sport Sport fain Eloctc AC Rebelen spans 2913 nones No831 Strider AC Two-Mere Soaring Bodel Bidwell spans 707 nones No834 Gobllo Electrospon Bode geared Speed 400 Betors sF005 461 nches No636 09 Slew Motion Third flying-wn9 seres Bill Evans spars 4B inches No039 Swift 0d Paler FE Old-Terer Oslan spans 50 inches No840 PT3 AC Scale wodel Frank Baker spans 55 nones No842 1Een Sport Trainer AC Scae Philip Kant ones Mao 40 Sarpass spans 65 inches No846 Pratensianal Get Panarn-style Bddel Sarpolus tot Sachs 32 engines spans 94 inches 2 No647 Son Goat AC concersion el CL design Clough spans 36 inches No 648 SpiBirn CL Slant OdnoaskyAdawosso ST 65 power spans 62 nones 2 sheets No 949 gaper Bag Mathews adaptation dl classic Walt Good design 25 35 power spens 76 inches No000 Onprep WintayHonton inlennedialo AC Bodel spans 63 inches Na 801 Eagloreek CL Scale Frank Oeany spans 49 nones Ne 802 Jeanlis AC slopespod girder Allen spare 72 inches No853 Geentow 20 Rats-winning FE Indos HLG Scores spans 20 inches No854 Arronsplene AC Cowpetiton Eon-Fly Larsen 09 -15 p owe spans 36 nones No 605 Lightein Bolt CL Spod Bode Netzeband 049 power 36 noSes 56 Aseneder AC Spon Canard 40 powen Winter/Huntcn spens 5925 inches No857 Lii Chag8e FE /SA Ft J Donhaw spann 53 inches Ne 858 Bask Basles Tao-Meter sarlylane Kncaid spans 773/4 inches No808 Seopter CL Frecisian aerobatics Bodel Snickhaas 40 engines spans 61 inches No860 Slew Motion Tradition AC Sisnilar 40 power spans 64 inches No865 Berrploid FE Teeaco Nebaoer spans 5425 inchas Ne 862 P01 MoOtan8 AC Speed 400 Electric Kerry spans 32 inches No863 Jackpot WinlnrlHartdn collaborafion br 45 power spans 69 inches No864 OFO 000 CL 010sf nnndel Johnston 40 engnes spans 54 nones 5 Faker D-8 AC Standoff Soale Clough spans 64 schas No866 Twn Cat: Unosal twin-engine 105001 Saryolus Cheetah 42s spars 104 inches 90867 Cheap Thrill Stunt Bodel Thowerson spans 36 inches No868 Aatoplane Twin Speed 400 Electric Scsle Mikolasko spans 62 inches Ne 869 Rear Whd AC usher delta CiBBiro Icr 40 power spans 50 nonas No870 T-20 CL IsA sEco Bodel Sarpoiss specs 2gr/ nones No871 Ouster AC Olson Bodel WihleIHanton 40 fwo-strckes spans 71 ry inches Ne 872 Clood Kitten Foaw-wing FE span nnodel Fred Re ese spans 35 nohas Ne 873 LineTgor CL VrA Profile Froto Hall shots winner spans 15 Ic inches No874 Eleclrciltb AC Eleotrc sailplane sy Cashion Speed dOOs spans 57 inches No875 Pipe Oreaw AC Electric flyin5 wng WinterlHonlor spans 41 nlc inches No876 Borecal CL 16 Stunt aaron spans 40 inches No 877 Merrymdow 112A AC Cloogh sparsd4 inches Full-size plan list available Complete listing plans previously published n magazine through no 859 may obtained free Charge writing enClose 78qo stamped pre-addresaed #10 business-oize letter envelope ModelAviation 5151 E Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Price Key $375B $750C 5D 0E 0 Fill blanks below numbers plans wish order best handling please include requests payment some other service plans order order phone call 765 287-1256 order tax complete send form fax number 765 289-4248 Domestic customers please include $320 shipping handling Add $300 have plans mailed tube Please No COD Orders Make check money order payable US funds drawn US bank ModelAviation 0/0 AMA 5151 East Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Please allow three weeks delivery ENCLOSED $ J Check Money Order tJ MasterCardNisa CARD NO EXP DATE NAME - AMA No STREET CITY_______ STATEZIP customers outside US include $320 additional shipping handling per plan August1999 165 878 Longster Wimpy$1500 RC Scale Electric Woodward spans 59 inches * DURALITE UPDATE * An exciting test has run Warren Thomas first competition flyers try batteries has 37% Extra 300 equipped 11 4721 119 oz servos 2 2400 Duralite battery packs 2 receivers Joe Nail reported 21 consecutive flights cells charging still power spare Featuring no memory extended operating temperature range flatter discharge curves other battery types 70% lighter comparable cells has now numerous tests performed Duralites results have positive adding products line 800 mAb 800 mAh 800 mAb 1600 mAh 2400 mAh 3 Volt 6 Volt 9 Volt 6 Volt 6 volt Transmitter bat 1600 mAh 12 volt Charger 1 output Charger 1 output Charger 4 output Charger 4 output 1 Amp Load Tester Regulator 75 Amp Regulator w/sw itch 17 grams 12 oz 18 oz 24 oz 36oz 48 oz DC 6v AC/DC 6v DC 6v & 12v AC/DC 6v & 12v 6v 9v 5lv-56v 5lv-56v $1300 $3895 $5695 $7495 $10895 $13895 $2895 $4895 $5895 $7895 $3485 $3295 $4495 Full OT Partial Kits Available 42% Cues 37% Extra 300L & 330 375% Design 36% Extra 260 35% Edge 540T 1/3 scale Davis Acro 325% Extra 300L & 300 30% Ultimate BILL EFFINGER SAYS have just added Hosvotd OPAl 5 live P1000 Potteto Sets ko yooali lile 1/6 Scale HOWARD DGA-15 8 CID engoes mgspao cetail leogm 5 lbs Putt RIG oh R/G a/PlyoOOd CoosttoCtiOo scys-liSPR95 Prices ate tO complete tJH szv p1005 & 0070/ed potts lists PLEASEADD$400 ta shipping matting tube Send $100 Far Plan Sets bachure WOt aver 60 PIano Pattern Sets n/c I/u 5.I I, 10 50 05 COO W E TECHNICAL SERVICES 335 Hammond Apt 913 Atlanta GA 30328 model aviation education competition promotion thousand Lance Novaks Lets ask hundreds AMA members flying now because Ive seen devote time talents treasure feelings far beyond anyone else Ive ever met 50 years aeromodeling began Free Flight hobby shop owner taught age 7 fly build gliders began CL Scale Stunt 17 hobby shop manager navy base taught began RC 20 years ago again hobby shop owner taught helped Total education cost SO Hours spent Probably over 100 Net result fly sons fly promote hobby shops period What Mr Novak misses will always miss airplane toy goodiesare just things feeling memories friendships education price Please apologize Angus Crosbie Glendale Calfomia PS Hobby Shops real ones smell good Dont read letters before publish Ref June pg 173 Lance Novak small hobby shops would have able enjoy hobby 50 years would editor model magazine Some what spouts true dont owe something small shop owner hasbeen us long dont like people try hurt small person publish such stuff No dont work run small shop have used enjoy course good bad examples Next time some guy axe grind writes think before publishing stuff could run editorial column apology some kind recognition small hobby shops across country & people advertise pages 131-133 magazine Bob Gieseke Irving Texas Ijust recieved Model Aviation month always read Letters Editor first wanted send thanks out Mr Lance Novak Hes made decision Ive wrestling very easy Im owners mom-and-pop hobby shop Ive always tried competitive mall-order shops selling kits engines everything possibly could prices Radios have add another 5% would hardly make profit Ive business 13 years part always struggled try best help customers best modelers can naught suppose after reading Mr Novaks letter decision Ive struggling whether close end year Y2K coming store computer old POS program out-of-date instead purchasing new equipment suppose its time give up really love hobby believe its best hobby young people Ive hobby 25 years raising three boys competed Tournament Champions past year making family very proud him will sad closing shop Ive spent lot good times Mr Novak has shown light Im tired beating dead horse Oh about little grocery stores dont know about California theres convenience store other corner Texas Richard Byrd B&H RC Hobbies Arlington Texas read letter about hobby shops LA area written Lance Novak Boy sure problem day sat down write letter too live LA area San Fernando Valley have shopped store mentioned Camarillo nice small shop no reason 1 know leave LA area shop RC supplies Undoubtedly Mr Novak bad experience local shop quote him People stupid goes say other things regarding mom-and-pop stores Well am owner mom-and-pop business statements productive about paying small stores Businesses either competitive cease exist Learning fly drive RC still introduced mainly hobby shopsnot mail-order Clubs good cannot replace owner employee teaches new customer Clubs survive because local shops Hobby shops support club activities giving gifts discounting items prizes raffles agree stretch dollars However may buy 575 part mail add shipping handling time part will cost convenience going shop superstores left beware next step Super prices superstores Without small shops scratch building will just am also questioning editors publisher magazine did publish letter nature person problem publishing letter disgruntled person have done small businessman justice should have investigated situation RC hobby industry does need kind help John Curran Northridge CalWornia Publishers note Novak letter response Now Youre Talking opinion piece October 1998 issue Model Aviation piblished both letters means inspi ring discussion raising level consciousness about important issue hobby shops competition theyfacefromn mail order houses Based responses would appear goal achieved Model Aviation did publish letters order take sides criticize hobby shops same time meaningful dialogue cannot take place fonb viewpoint presented Divergent viewpoints indeed some degree controversy what make Letters Editor sections like Now Youre Talking interesting informative thought-provoking 166 Model Aviation


Edition: Model Aviation - 1999/08
Page Numbers: 6, 165, 166

As ModelAviations table contents suggests indeed something everyone hobby has important part life 50 years especially appreciate magazines editors have given ample space primary modeling interest Free Flight Virtually part magazine read reread useful ideas interesting reports abound occasion someones ideas meritindeed demanda response such item Letter Editor June 1999 issue writer Lance Novak claims ten years RC flying has learned ins outs buying equipment shares wisdom regarding advantages buying mail order large hobby supermarkets Los Angeles area too live Los Angeles too have bought supermarkets Novak chooses call occasions have shopped large chain price discounters found employees both friendly knowledgeableabout Radio Control Period What Novak unable realize apparently some us enjoy different aspects great hobby large chain discounters arent exactly place turn silk tissue FAI Tan II rubber engine shutoff timers etc Perhaps Novak could find time between encounters rude little jerk small bobby shop would discover some other facets hobby price discounters arent concerned about what about small hobby shop owner mother ignorant rude Well Novak went hobby shop attitude letter reeks can understand given respect feels deserves sum Lance Novak ten years RC flying will probably continue regard owners small hobby shops price-gougers will continue respect people fill real need have treated fairly honestly courteously half century will continue support owners ensure survival thats whats really important Lee Hunt Northridge California Lance Novak pitied censured concludes diatribe characterizing small hobby shop owners greedy price-gougers going go out business admits whats really important him bargain-hunting simply reveals own mercenary values priorities crocodile tears old time hobby shops impressive Especially repeats comes down saving money can hope enough modelers nut share bean-counting bottom-line view whats really important modeling keep old time hobby shops alive would willing place substantial bet 100 modelers selected random asked Whats really important hobby getting good deal equipment would predominant answer would further willing wager personal relationships would high list mail-order catalog cant provide Small hobby shop owners provide another personal quality mail-order hobby supermarket stores cant touch personal service Both qualities valuable intangible commodities rare todays marketplace kindest thing can say about Mr Novak seems know price everything value nothing Bill Darkow Olympia Washington great dismay read Mr Novaks letter June issue man has apparently shopping wrong places live within 40 miles several hobby shops patronize several sold Top Flite P-40 $5 less mail-order places sold four 25 engines couple dollars less sale price major mail-order houses Some items expensive locally through mail have satisfaction knowing money staying right Colorado Id just soon let people New York Chicago support economies Ill support Also have several bad experiences mail-order places ordered covering P-40 bought locally waited about five months before finally canceled order Its back order got Two months went no word finally ordered covering iron about same price what Continued page 165 6 Model Aviation ers tc thc Eclitcr Hobby Shops Letters Continued page 6 owed covering never got received notice that backordered finally went through catalog gave four five options last said everything catalog backordered donate money local RC clubs next event prize got glow plugs list still couple bucks Another mail outfit charged shipping cost both halves order backordered stupidly paid theyll never get business agaln Nope Ill stick [local sources] No mailorder thank Wes Nelson Superior Colorado Its obvious Mr Novak works someone else probably first person raise hand raises offered suppose comments typical society first people living what can get out things surprise surprisehe first admit trades mail-order houses password greed invented word Does Mr Novak think mail-order houses performing acts kindness accept money? spent 30 years mass-marketing business yet would last accuse small business being greedy pricegouging yes greedy yes knocked out competition fast stood up get hit fact hobby shop owners have Masters degrees marketing yes lot marketing ignorance hobby business lot performing very well indeed Mr Novak think hobby shops greedy aint seen nothing until see what happens mail-order houses wipe hobby shops out friend will see what happens few can corner market Just keep buying eventually bury yourself As hobby shops always beat mail-order houses sizable margin shall continue buy Bob Wilson Franklin North Carolina Since American Aircraft Modeler days Ive always enjoyed ModelAviation AMA until now extremely disgusted editors publishing letter Mr Lance Novak June 1999 issue Disgusted two reasons 1 op-ed type letter very thinly disguised personal attack hobby shops general remarkable AMA shop owners particular 2 would allow egregious display wanton hubris ego get national international exposure personal apology mother son would step way correcting affront insult have done 879P-40K$2250 CL Stunt Johnston spans 59 inches 2 sheets No 136 Fiesele Starch AC Scala wodel fo 23 45 5channol has both slots flaps No 169 flennyplene AC cesro awed cabin snosel sit row 1937 19-25 No262 Crastrmoster CL crash proof trainer Two szesfh35ad S5t4Spowe No302 Mini F16 AC Satpolos 549 docted tan sport fljslo2 charnel Balsa odogs tail ad hseage stront 00 No447 112A Miss Ansorice AC Old Tiwe VaS Tecaco Bode 049 010w 2 cfnaonels No061 Gee Boo Model F AC Goldar Age Racer Spans 72-in Vs scale fo 65 powar 3 plan sheets No702 HejOltel NE 58 SF Scale wodel 011924 Getwan wonoplane ForHiune Min-d gearadeecftic nnofor Spans2e No714 Mod Doek AC oser-Inendly Sped fliefot relaxed slow fh0ht Focelsaf low slow Baneces 25-30 powet Spans 55 5 2 plan sheets. No720 Mioutemon FF Etank Zaros pepalar all-balsa-cccead rabbe-powered Bode facen 10w PopclarScience Jane f94f Spans 20n No733 1041 Taplererelt AC qoaner-scale design caprores rho niqoe fly hg Sualifies ba toll-scale Tayloncrah foe-inch span 2 plan sheets. No739 Jounte ACOalpiane has oaks pedorrnance 1 22inch span inolcoes fall consrractor trot 3 pan sheefsl No709 Arribe FE Hand-held catapalt girder Jean Andrews No614 0630 AC Electric flying aang useighs 46 conoes spans 641s inches 2 sheets No 61 0 Teplor Cub AC Sport Ocale three channels spans hR inches Na 818 Nibble 300 FE ISA record holder bp NsB Per spans 5510 inches No022 Otepheno Akro AC Laser predecessor bp Sarpolos 32 power spans 95 inches No820 Twloter Spnn AC Bodel bp Richardson 25 p ower spans 4d inches No826 Piper Powoen Brase FE Robber Scala cy Ear Stahl spans 30 lenhes No826 Tarho Sport Sport fain Eloctc AC Rebelen spans 2913 nones No831 Strider AC Two-Mere Soaring Bodel Bidwell spans 707 nones No834 Gobllo Electrospon Bode geared Speed 400 Betors sF005 461 nches No636 09 Slew Motion Third flying-wn9 seres Bill Evans spars 4B inches No039 Swift 0d Paler FE Old-Terer Oslan spans 50 inches No840 PT3 AC Scale wodel Frank Baker spans 55 nones No842 1Een Sport Trainer AC Scae Philip Kant ones Mao 40 Sarpass spans 65 inches No846 Pratensianal Get Panarn-style Bddel Sarpolus tot Sachs 32 engines spans 94 inches 2 No647 Son Goat AC concersion el CL design Clough spans 36 inches No 648 SpiBirn CL Slant OdnoaskyAdawosso ST 65 power spans 62 nones 2 sheets No 949 gaper Bag Mathews adaptation dl classic Walt Good design 25 35 power spens 76 inches No000 Onprep WintayHonton inlennedialo AC Bodel spans 63 inches Na 801 Eagloreek CL Scale Frank Oeany spans 49 nones Ne 802 Jeanlis AC slopespod girder Allen spare 72 inches No853 Geentow 20 Rats-winning FE Indos HLG Scores spans 20 inches No854 Arronsplene AC Cowpetiton Eon-Fly Larsen 09 -15 p owe spans 36 nones No 605 Lightein Bolt CL Spod Bode Netzeband 049 power 36 noSes 56 Aseneder AC Spon Canard 40 powen Winter/Huntcn spens 5925 inches No857 Lii Chag8e FE /SA Ft J Donhaw spann 53 inches Ne 858 Bask Basles Tao-Meter sarlylane Kncaid spans 773/4 inches No808 Seopter CL Frecisian aerobatics Bodel Snickhaas 40 engines spans 61 inches No860 Slew Motion Tradition AC Sisnilar 40 power spans 64 inches No865 Berrploid FE Teeaco Nebaoer spans 5425 inchas Ne 862 P01 MoOtan8 AC Speed 400 Electric Kerry spans 32 inches No863 Jackpot WinlnrlHartdn collaborafion br 45 power spans 69 inches No864 OFO 000 CL 010sf nnndel Johnston 40 engnes spans 54 nones 5 Faker D-8 AC Standoff Soale Clough spans 64 schas No866 Twn Cat: Unosal twin-engine 105001 Saryolus Cheetah 42s spars 104 inches 90867 Cheap Thrill Stunt Bodel Thowerson spans 36 inches No868 Aatoplane Twin Speed 400 Electric Scsle Mikolasko spans 62 inches Ne 869 Rear Whd AC usher delta CiBBiro Icr 40 power spans 50 nonas No870 T-20 CL IsA sEco Bodel Sarpoiss specs 2gr/ nones No871 Ouster AC Olson Bodel WihleIHanton 40 fwo-strckes spans 71 ry inches Ne 872 Clood Kitten Foaw-wing FE span nnodel Fred Re ese spans 35 nohas Ne 873 LineTgor CL VrA Profile Froto Hall shots winner spans 15 Ic inches No874 Eleclrciltb AC Eleotrc sailplane sy Cashion Speed dOOs spans 57 inches No875 Pipe Oreaw AC Electric flyin5 wng WinterlHonlor spans 41 nlc inches No876 Borecal CL 16 Stunt aaron spans 40 inches No 877 Merrymdow 112A AC Cloogh sparsd4 inches Full-size plan list available Complete listing plans previously published n magazine through no 859 may obtained free Charge writing enClose 78qo stamped pre-addresaed #10 business-oize letter envelope ModelAviation 5151 E Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Price Key $375B $750C 5D 0E 0 Fill blanks below numbers plans wish order best handling please include requests payment some other service plans order order phone call 765 287-1256 order tax complete send form fax number 765 289-4248 Domestic customers please include $320 shipping handling Add $300 have plans mailed tube Please No COD Orders Make check money order payable US funds drawn US bank ModelAviation 0/0 AMA 5151 East Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Please allow three weeks delivery ENCLOSED $ J Check Money Order tJ MasterCardNisa CARD NO EXP DATE NAME - AMA No STREET CITY_______ STATEZIP customers outside US include $320 additional shipping handling per plan August1999 165 878 Longster Wimpy$1500 RC Scale Electric Woodward spans 59 inches * DURALITE UPDATE * An exciting test has run Warren Thomas first competition flyers try batteries has 37% Extra 300 equipped 11 4721 119 oz servos 2 2400 Duralite battery packs 2 receivers Joe Nail reported 21 consecutive flights cells charging still power spare Featuring no memory extended operating temperature range flatter discharge curves other battery types 70% lighter comparable cells has now numerous tests performed Duralites results have positive adding products line 800 mAb 800 mAh 800 mAb 1600 mAh 2400 mAh 3 Volt 6 Volt 9 Volt 6 Volt 6 volt Transmitter bat 1600 mAh 12 volt Charger 1 output Charger 1 output Charger 4 output Charger 4 output 1 Amp Load Tester Regulator 75 Amp Regulator w/sw itch 17 grams 12 oz 18 oz 24 oz 36oz 48 oz DC 6v AC/DC 6v DC 6v & 12v AC/DC 6v & 12v 6v 9v 5lv-56v 5lv-56v $1300 $3895 $5695 $7495 $10895 $13895 $2895 $4895 $5895 $7895 $3485 $3295 $4495 Full OT Partial Kits Available 42% Cues 37% Extra 300L & 330 375% Design 36% Extra 260 35% Edge 540T 1/3 scale Davis Acro 325% Extra 300L & 300 30% Ultimate BILL EFFINGER SAYS have just added Hosvotd OPAl 5 live P1000 Potteto Sets ko yooali lile 1/6 Scale HOWARD DGA-15 8 CID engoes mgspao cetail leogm 5 lbs Putt RIG oh R/G a/PlyoOOd CoosttoCtiOo scys-liSPR95 Prices ate tO complete tJH szv p1005 & 0070/ed potts lists PLEASEADD$400 ta shipping matting tube Send $100 Far Plan Sets bachure WOt aver 60 PIano Pattern Sets n/c I/u 5.I I, 10 50 05 COO W E TECHNICAL SERVICES 335 Hammond Apt 913 Atlanta GA 30328 model aviation education competition promotion thousand Lance Novaks Lets ask hundreds AMA members flying now because Ive seen devote time talents treasure feelings far beyond anyone else Ive ever met 50 years aeromodeling began Free Flight hobby shop owner taught age 7 fly build gliders began CL Scale Stunt 17 hobby shop manager navy base taught began RC 20 years ago again hobby shop owner taught helped Total education cost SO Hours spent Probably over 100 Net result fly sons fly promote hobby shops period What Mr Novak misses will always miss airplane toy goodiesare just things feeling memories friendships education price Please apologize Angus Crosbie Glendale Calfomia PS Hobby Shops real ones smell good Dont read letters before publish Ref June pg 173 Lance Novak small hobby shops would have able enjoy hobby 50 years would editor model magazine Some what spouts true dont owe something small shop owner hasbeen us long dont like people try hurt small person publish such stuff No dont work run small shop have used enjoy course good bad examples Next time some guy axe grind writes think before publishing stuff could run editorial column apology some kind recognition small hobby shops across country & people advertise pages 131-133 magazine Bob Gieseke Irving Texas Ijust recieved Model Aviation month always read Letters Editor first wanted send thanks out Mr Lance Novak Hes made decision Ive wrestling very easy Im owners mom-and-pop hobby shop Ive always tried competitive mall-order shops selling kits engines everything possibly could prices Radios have add another 5% would hardly make profit Ive business 13 years part always struggled try best help customers best modelers can naught suppose after reading Mr Novaks letter decision Ive struggling whether close end year Y2K coming store computer old POS program out-of-date instead purchasing new equipment suppose its time give up really love hobby believe its best hobby young people Ive hobby 25 years raising three boys competed Tournament Champions past year making family very proud him will sad closing shop Ive spent lot good times Mr Novak has shown light Im tired beating dead horse Oh about little grocery stores dont know about California theres convenience store other corner Texas Richard Byrd B&H RC Hobbies Arlington Texas read letter about hobby shops LA area written Lance Novak Boy sure problem day sat down write letter too live LA area San Fernando Valley have shopped store mentioned Camarillo nice small shop no reason 1 know leave LA area shop RC supplies Undoubtedly Mr Novak bad experience local shop quote him People stupid goes say other things regarding mom-and-pop stores Well am owner mom-and-pop business statements productive about paying small stores Businesses either competitive cease exist Learning fly drive RC still introduced mainly hobby shopsnot mail-order Clubs good cannot replace owner employee teaches new customer Clubs survive because local shops Hobby shops support club activities giving gifts discounting items prizes raffles agree stretch dollars However may buy 575 part mail add shipping handling time part will cost convenience going shop superstores left beware next step Super prices superstores Without small shops scratch building will just am also questioning editors publisher magazine did publish letter nature person problem publishing letter disgruntled person have done small businessman justice should have investigated situation RC hobby industry does need kind help John Curran Northridge CalWornia Publishers note Novak letter response Now Youre Talking opinion piece October 1998 issue Model Aviation piblished both letters means inspi ring discussion raising level consciousness about important issue hobby shops competition theyfacefromn mail order houses Based responses would appear goal achieved Model Aviation did publish letters order take sides criticize hobby shops same time meaningful dialogue cannot take place fonb viewpoint presented Divergent viewpoints indeed some degree controversy what make Letters Editor sections like Now Youre Talking interesting informative thought-provoking 166 Model Aviation


Edition: Model Aviation - 1999/08
Page Numbers: 6, 165, 166

As ModelAviations table contents suggests indeed something everyone hobby has important part life 50 years especially appreciate magazines editors have given ample space primary modeling interest Free Flight Virtually part magazine read reread useful ideas interesting reports abound occasion someones ideas meritindeed demanda response such item Letter Editor June 1999 issue writer Lance Novak claims ten years RC flying has learned ins outs buying equipment shares wisdom regarding advantages buying mail order large hobby supermarkets Los Angeles area too live Los Angeles too have bought supermarkets Novak chooses call occasions have shopped large chain price discounters found employees both friendly knowledgeableabout Radio Control Period What Novak unable realize apparently some us enjoy different aspects great hobby large chain discounters arent exactly place turn silk tissue FAI Tan II rubber engine shutoff timers etc Perhaps Novak could find time between encounters rude little jerk small bobby shop would discover some other facets hobby price discounters arent concerned about what about small hobby shop owner mother ignorant rude Well Novak went hobby shop attitude letter reeks can understand given respect feels deserves sum Lance Novak ten years RC flying will probably continue regard owners small hobby shops price-gougers will continue respect people fill real need have treated fairly honestly courteously half century will continue support owners ensure survival thats whats really important Lee Hunt Northridge California Lance Novak pitied censured concludes diatribe characterizing small hobby shop owners greedy price-gougers going go out business admits whats really important him bargain-hunting simply reveals own mercenary values priorities crocodile tears old time hobby shops impressive Especially repeats comes down saving money can hope enough modelers nut share bean-counting bottom-line view whats really important modeling keep old time hobby shops alive would willing place substantial bet 100 modelers selected random asked Whats really important hobby getting good deal equipment would predominant answer would further willing wager personal relationships would high list mail-order catalog cant provide Small hobby shop owners provide another personal quality mail-order hobby supermarket stores cant touch personal service Both qualities valuable intangible commodities rare todays marketplace kindest thing can say about Mr Novak seems know price everything value nothing Bill Darkow Olympia Washington great dismay read Mr Novaks letter June issue man has apparently shopping wrong places live within 40 miles several hobby shops patronize several sold Top Flite P-40 $5 less mail-order places sold four 25 engines couple dollars less sale price major mail-order houses Some items expensive locally through mail have satisfaction knowing money staying right Colorado Id just soon let people New York Chicago support economies Ill support Also have several bad experiences mail-order places ordered covering P-40 bought locally waited about five months before finally canceled order Its back order got Two months went no word finally ordered covering iron about same price what Continued page 165 6 Model Aviation ers tc thc Eclitcr Hobby Shops Letters Continued page 6 owed covering never got received notice that backordered finally went through catalog gave four five options last said everything catalog backordered donate money local RC clubs next event prize got glow plugs list still couple bucks Another mail outfit charged shipping cost both halves order backordered stupidly paid theyll never get business agaln Nope Ill stick [local sources] No mailorder thank Wes Nelson Superior Colorado Its obvious Mr Novak works someone else probably first person raise hand raises offered suppose comments typical society first people living what can get out things surprise surprisehe first admit trades mail-order houses password greed invented word Does Mr Novak think mail-order houses performing acts kindness accept money? spent 30 years mass-marketing business yet would last accuse small business being greedy pricegouging yes greedy yes knocked out competition fast stood up get hit fact hobby shop owners have Masters degrees marketing yes lot marketing ignorance hobby business lot performing very well indeed Mr Novak think hobby shops greedy aint seen nothing until see what happens mail-order houses wipe hobby shops out friend will see what happens few can corner market Just keep buying eventually bury yourself As hobby shops always beat mail-order houses sizable margin shall continue buy Bob Wilson Franklin North Carolina Since American Aircraft Modeler days Ive always enjoyed ModelAviation AMA until now extremely disgusted editors publishing letter Mr Lance Novak June 1999 issue Disgusted two reasons 1 op-ed type letter very thinly disguised personal attack hobby shops general remarkable AMA shop owners particular 2 would allow egregious display wanton hubris ego get national international exposure personal apology mother son would step way correcting affront insult have done 879P-40K$2250 CL Stunt Johnston spans 59 inches 2 sheets No 136 Fiesele Starch AC Scala wodel fo 23 45 5channol has both slots flaps No 169 flennyplene AC cesro awed cabin snosel sit row 1937 19-25 No262 Crastrmoster CL crash proof trainer Two szesfh35ad S5t4Spowe No302 Mini F16 AC Satpolos 549 docted tan sport fljslo2 charnel Balsa odogs tail ad hseage stront 00 No447 112A Miss Ansorice AC Old Tiwe VaS Tecaco Bode 049 010w 2 cfnaonels No061 Gee Boo Model F AC Goldar Age Racer Spans 72-in Vs scale fo 65 powar 3 plan sheets No702 HejOltel NE 58 SF Scale wodel 011924 Getwan wonoplane ForHiune Min-d gearadeecftic nnofor Spans2e No714 Mod Doek AC oser-Inendly Sped fliefot relaxed slow fh0ht Focelsaf low slow Baneces 25-30 powet Spans 55 5 2 plan sheets. 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57 inches No875 Pipe Oreaw AC Electric flyin5 wng WinterlHonlor spans 41 nlc inches No876 Borecal CL 16 Stunt aaron spans 40 inches No 877 Merrymdow 112A AC Cloogh sparsd4 inches Full-size plan list available Complete listing plans previously published n magazine through no 859 may obtained free Charge writing enClose 78qo stamped pre-addresaed #10 business-oize letter envelope ModelAviation 5151 E Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Price Key $375B $750C 5D 0E 0 Fill blanks below numbers plans wish order best handling please include requests payment some other service plans order order phone call 765 287-1256 order tax complete send form fax number 765 289-4248 Domestic customers please include $320 shipping handling Add $300 have plans mailed tube Please No COD Orders Make check money order payable US funds drawn US bank ModelAviation 0/0 AMA 5151 East Memorial Dr Muncie IN 47302 Please allow three weeks delivery ENCLOSED $ J Check Money Order tJ MasterCardNisa CARD NO EXP DATE NAME - AMA No STREET CITY_______ STATEZIP customers outside US include $320 additional shipping handling per plan August1999 165 878 Longster Wimpy$1500 RC Scale Electric Woodward spans 59 inches * DURALITE UPDATE * An exciting test has run Warren Thomas first competition flyers try batteries has 37% Extra 300 equipped 11 4721 119 oz servos 2 2400 Duralite battery packs 2 receivers Joe Nail reported 21 consecutive flights cells charging still power spare Featuring no memory extended operating temperature range flatter discharge curves other battery types 70% lighter comparable cells has now numerous tests performed Duralites results have positive adding products line 800 mAb 800 mAh 800 mAb 1600 mAh 2400 mAh 3 Volt 6 Volt 9 Volt 6 Volt 6 volt Transmitter bat 1600 mAh 12 volt Charger 1 output Charger 1 output Charger 4 output Charger 4 output 1 Amp Load Tester Regulator 75 Amp Regulator w/sw itch 17 grams 12 oz 18 oz 24 oz 36oz 48 oz DC 6v AC/DC 6v DC 6v & 12v AC/DC 6v & 12v 6v 9v 5lv-56v 5lv-56v $1300 $3895 $5695 $7495 $10895 $13895 $2895 $4895 $5895 $7895 $3485 $3295 $4495 Full OT Partial Kits Available 42% Cues 37% Extra 300L & 330 375% Design 36% Extra 260 35% Edge 540T 1/3 scale Davis Acro 325% Extra 300L & 300 30% Ultimate BILL EFFINGER SAYS have just added Hosvotd OPAl 5 live P1000 Potteto Sets ko yooali lile 1/6 Scale HOWARD DGA-15 8 CID engoes mgspao cetail leogm 5 lbs Putt RIG oh R/G a/PlyoOOd CoosttoCtiOo scys-liSPR95 Prices ate tO complete tJH szv p1005 & 0070/ed potts lists PLEASEADD$400 ta shipping matting tube Send $100 Far Plan Sets bachure WOt aver 60 PIano Pattern Sets n/c I/u 5.I I, 10 50 05 COO W E TECHNICAL SERVICES 335 Hammond Apt 913 Atlanta GA 30328 model aviation education competition promotion thousand Lance Novaks Lets ask hundreds AMA members flying now because Ive seen devote time talents treasure feelings far beyond anyone else Ive ever met 50 years aeromodeling began Free Flight hobby shop owner taught age 7 fly build gliders began CL Scale Stunt 17 hobby shop manager navy base taught began RC 20 years ago again hobby shop owner taught helped Total education cost SO Hours spent Probably over 100 Net result fly sons fly promote hobby shops period What Mr Novak misses will always miss airplane toy goodiesare just things feeling memories friendships education price Please apologize Angus Crosbie Glendale Calfomia PS Hobby Shops real ones smell good Dont read letters before publish Ref June pg 173 Lance Novak small hobby shops would have able enjoy hobby 50 years would editor model magazine Some what spouts true dont owe something small shop owner hasbeen us long dont like people try hurt small person publish such stuff No dont work run small shop have used enjoy course good bad examples Next time some guy axe grind writes think before publishing stuff could run editorial column apology some kind recognition small hobby shops across country & people advertise pages 131-133 magazine Bob Gieseke Irving Texas Ijust recieved Model Aviation month always read Letters Editor first wanted send thanks out Mr Lance Novak Hes made decision Ive wrestling very easy Im owners mom-and-pop hobby shop Ive always tried competitive mall-order shops selling kits engines everything possibly could prices Radios have add another 5% would hardly make profit Ive business 13 years part always struggled try best help customers best modelers can naught suppose after reading Mr Novaks letter decision Ive struggling whether close end year Y2K coming store computer old POS program out-of-date instead purchasing new equipment suppose its time give up really love hobby believe its best hobby young people Ive hobby 25 years raising three boys competed Tournament Champions past year making family very proud him will sad closing shop Ive spent lot good times Mr Novak has shown light Im tired beating dead horse Oh about little grocery stores dont know about California theres convenience store other corner Texas Richard Byrd B&H RC Hobbies Arlington Texas read letter about hobby shops LA area written Lance Novak Boy sure problem day sat down write letter too live LA area San Fernando Valley have shopped store mentioned Camarillo nice small shop no reason 1 know leave LA area shop RC supplies Undoubtedly Mr Novak bad experience local shop quote him People stupid goes say other things regarding mom-and-pop stores Well am owner mom-and-pop business statements productive about paying small stores Businesses either competitive cease exist Learning fly drive RC still introduced mainly hobby shopsnot mail-order Clubs good cannot replace owner employee teaches new customer Clubs survive because local shops Hobby shops support club activities giving gifts discounting items prizes raffles agree stretch dollars However may buy 575 part mail add shipping handling time part will cost convenience going shop superstores left beware next step Super prices superstores Without small shops scratch building will just am also questioning editors publisher magazine did publish letter nature person problem publishing letter disgruntled person have done small businessman justice should have investigated situation RC hobby industry does need kind help John Curran Northridge CalWornia Publishers note Novak letter response Now Youre Talking opinion piece October 1998 issue Model Aviation piblished both letters means inspi ring discussion raising level consciousness about important issue hobby shops competition theyfacefromn mail order houses Based responses would appear goal achieved Model Aviation did publish letters order take sides criticize hobby shops same time meaningful dialogue cannot take place fonb viewpoint presented Divergent viewpoints indeed some degree controversy what make Letters Editor sections like Now Youre Talking interesting informative thought-provoking 166 Model Aviation

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