NO OCR TEXT FULL-SIZE PLANS AVAILABLE SEE PAGE 128 NOTE PICAS WElT IS SPANTEP GLUE SPASS 2000 IAD LINE ISP WAS LEAD WRIAPT IS SNOT ROOT WINO TIP RIPS FOP ROOT WINO TOROAL / A, WING VS 51*1 VP 120 SALAD LEAPiNG ESIE S/INNNO sSRPN-OANO 0WSA PLAN 17 III IU 0W0SA W0OrDERTIAL ANOIN W WEe-AN NOT 0*41 GST/4IPE 00CR *110 OP FLEE EVANS TO LMROAP 4r* j .jW4E 2200 GEAR 000 PLVWOORIALT- OSEAN __ 0- IS FLTOOP SIR FOP 04 PLO NO SALLORAMC RAOE LOADNOTS PA NOTE ROlES 2011 SNOIPSOAN 0ILAROW SOARS TRAP AGES FAN 420 GELLANAPIS LOAIT ws FPA IN PLAHE/ ELCO AATR F ELCO P501 EPORS -PELLCANASS REAlS 0S%Z-VR ROLSS ROADS IS EIJIUE POSELOGE RISE OR BALSA bA p SPROT TAN R SOTROS 0 OS BALBA I/ JLx111 -50ttIL\ TWO 000$ EROENRARS F-PU WEET-TFN*BANO ROAN PNO 410 5252 P AAR*OT -4120SUET RCTAL ANON-VA NOS IIS BAG1RS0A0-R-ALWPALT&5A00Q0 HI~IiifljGEF0T-AOA GENIES -NOOBAATE CIA UNITOUT NOT AS P005BALSA TRINNIEL 07001 *5000 CGNIPRANTLARGE PIT aCOATAN ORON USE SAURAL SOLSITFl011021 O0SERNTSTR sIWETT0S-____ UGE OUTEP VOLE ONOTREL 1500 OS RALSR FAN VP ROIWAN RIEOW ORE TIWAGER CLEGTS FAN AANITANLPL NO FIREWALL-. H 6112FL NBLFP7i7FUSESIDE4VIEW.--NOOPLE HALOR-7201 ST P0 EASIER-2RTLS NOTOLATE SWATSOR PLO 0LLCSWSS FUEL ADP 020 02 TRA1G BY JOE LeMARCO ISALNA TRIANGLE STOOR RURREP ADOPANTS AlIIFPNOT SEW STAR FINOWALL t\IrGETSI REel NOT FAA FUSELAGE TOP VIEW0-4ANO WOOER TSSG FIPEWALLI--F-A -FAA]4 ELEVATOR CONTPALAFU 3450 THE Vista 49 built flown 1949 Plymouth meet Detroit 18-year-old modeler believe lived city Vista Californiahence name Vista 49 city San Diego 20 miles south Vista city Jim Saftig designer Super Zilches lived would think some Super Zilch influence origin Vista 49 Several models built 1950 1951 influenced Vista 49 ever didnt copy original model until now June 1979 30 years later came upon old snapshot mothers attic able redraw built second Vista 49 presented article original model powered Orwick 64 new Vista 49 has small case Supertigre 60 running 12 x 6 propeller 6 oz Sullivan Klunk Tank can new stunt pattern 70 ft lines flies approximately 65 mph stable easy control model does qualify Garden State Circle Burners Clubs old-time stunt rules published prior December 31 1952 however still oldtimer great merit new Vista 49 modified original adding landing gear some models days omitted landing gear save weight have also inverted engine will torn out during embar rassing inverted landings plans scaled original photograph best could comparing Vista 49 Super Duper Zilch regard wing area Vista 49 12 00 768 sq Zilch 12 sq Airfoil thickness Vista 49 Zilch Total Lift Ratio Vista 49 x 17 Zilch624 x 12 17an increase 70% lift Now Super Duper Zilches weighed 48 oz same Vista 49 therefore flight September 1980 35 told simple Vista DO beautiful Vista fly Authors model trimmed-out leadout guides Yours may require different location fly/trim fly/trim until feels right Belicrank leadouts behind spar lower speeds Vista 49 outfijes Super Duper Zilch wing area does trick new model flies very well expected dive hourglass maneuver pleasure model does accelerate much also turns reasonable square corners practice old Orwick engines no beam mounts therefore usually radial mounted firewall arrangement has used new model using factory engine backplate made Supertigres radial mounting advantages strength ease engine removal removing muffler room fuel tank behind firewall Sullivan 60 oz slant tank fits snugly fuselage shown plans Also have placed landing gear wings allow room fuel tank fuselage choose use conventional stunt tank will have cut lower part D section wing right 60 oz fuel tank will fit Beam engine mounts can also used plans include information install ing smaller 40 cu engine retrospect recommend using larger engine Wing wing can built two halves workbench wing jig Use white glue joints strength Use hard 5/16 square balsa spars add t spar shear webs after wing framed sheeted webs greatly increase strength wing must omitted control system mounted completely behind spar push rod Z-bend located outer hole belicrank eg 10 center 3-in bellcrank landing gear blocks reinforced using ood half ribs Use epoxy giue landing gear block joints bellcrank mount joints sure add ounce lead weight outside wing Fuselage sides fuselage plywood doublers can placed wing using epoxy giue Sig Epoxolite bulkheads also added glued place install engine firewall tank Add top bottom sheets fuselage will complete Notice have added re stringers strengthen fuselage corners Dont forget add pushrod guide midway along pushrod Tail Surfaces tail surfaces made hard 3/16 sheet balsa can made two 3/16 x 3 wide sheets sure use epoxy glue nylon hinges secure place tail assembly can now epoxy-glued fuselage elevator horn can con nected pushrod elevator should deflect 40 degrees up 40 degrees down Finish wing photo model finished blue MonoKote first bottom panel top panel within lage fuselage tail brushed three coats Aerogioss sanding sealer lightly sanded between coat 400 grit sandpaper fuselage painted three coats Aerogloss Fokker Red joints between fuselage paint wings MonoKote striped 14 white vinyl tape sure fuel-proof engine tank com partment epoxy paint order fully protect model fuel Flying CG controls shown plan model flies very well however models vary flight characteristics modeler will need trim model suit Continued page 118 36 Model Aviation Note use RC Control norn cievis pushrod Trim cutout aft former pushrod horn clevis drag MUST use keeper cievis CL model clear view underside Note four screws holding fuel tank hatch cover RC style torsion-bar strap-on landing gear Thats SuperTigre 60 noseneeds muffler author used custom SuperTigre backplate designed radial mounting type mount ing makes very neat front end instaliation will depend engine use whether can get fabricate such backplate Use radial RC mount last resort RC Pylon/Hager continued page 29 some liquid soap both 0 rings grooves install silicone #006 0 rings Lubricate inner 0 ring Lubriplate # 106 good lithium grease Reassemble needle valve unit grease outer 0 ring will find can move air adjusting arm 8 12 in-os torque well within strength limits KPS-18 FP-20 servos next step mill groove 375 Ys cutter 300 deep side mount can put needle up down whichever turns center groove cut 887 back mount drill tap two 440 holes side groove cut small metal strap drill two holes clamp needle valve unit mount Run Hot Stuff around needle valve unit screws cement whole mess mount Cut hole fuselage clear needle valve install mount needle valve unit Install fuel tubing running tank through cutoff new needle valve inlet Remove needle valve assembly engines carburetor make dump carb out Super Tigre K&B fuel inlet preferably K&B since made piece Screw nylon bolt other side carb needle valve used Cut off flush inside carb Hot Stuff nylon bolt place Hook in-flight unit needle valve outlet carb fuel tubing ready go beauty unit can actually change engines have install turn needle valve Once engine set morning adjusting done trans mitter allows pilot lean richen plane air long piece glow plug element left will try pass hints tips get have send Bill Hager 4622 Bridgeport Garland TX 75043 Vista/Marshall continued page 36 personal requirements Using 12-6 propeller 60 cu engine model flies best engine running fast 4 cyclejust would run pattern ship model too slow engine too rich too fast engine lean Ifly model 018 diameter lines 70 long lines little slack wing-overs engine too rich CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 38 straight may take operation get right also chance Pauls case leadouts may too low compared center gravity especially since plane has inverted engine As Chris Lella pointed out trimming articles could lead improper vertical balance result being outboard wingtip flying up However since kit original design would look also chance somehow Paul may have too much inboard flap causing inboard wing stall Out outside maneuvers result being outboard wing comes up inside maneuvers may just enough tip weight counterbalance stall noticed Lastly Paul may want try adding tip weight help hold Out plane outside maneuvers course easiest solution should try possiblity tip weight will really help hourglass vertical eights course too much tip weight wing will start dipping inside squares familiar hinging action conclude still feel Paul probably has built-in warp wing will either have tweak flaps steam wing following letter received Larry Miles 6595 Foxridge Drive Mission KS 66202 1 frequently see kids adults would like get UC flying am ignorant what good UC planes available magazines seem strangely silent about beginners UC Whats guy like hundreds others about advising new comers about easy build sturdy inexpensive flyable beginners planes Nobody looking after beginning UC needs doesnt make good sense seeing UC adaptable city dwellers use easiest learn Cox has come out electric UC about $700 K-Mart Woolco claim easiest UC plane ever fly Id like see product review plane Coxs claims true has no serious defects would ideal beginning pilots unable dont feel column right place types articles request forward letter some can does believe beginning should occupy large portion magazine Especially liked article listed planes good steps pilot profi ciency Think should frequently list planes column refer readers back past issue gives details sake new occasional readers Model Aviation answer Larrys letter feel beginning planes available control line time time beginning novice articles magazines frequency beginning radio control articles lets face ale just RC fliers writers out could produce articles beginning control line flying dont appear regularity writers have successful competition plane will take crusading CLers like yourself get ball rolling assist beginners Editors note See May 1979 issue ofModelAviation construction article Crashmaster superb beginners CL model comes two sizes too available full-size plan No 262 $125 See page 128 ordering instructions RBM information precision aerobatics PAMPA write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Drive Lexington KY 40504 RC Racing/Lee continued page 39 expected new Slow Rat real good John went over night Franks home very carefully jigged up block foam cut John some cores new super Slow Rat John got controls installed wing sheeted building fuselage Boy really making progress got wing glued going cut opening bottom wing sheeting access internal leadouts John being superior Houston Racer gone far make template installing controls would know EXACTLY leadouts would time came cut opening Well. youve undoubtedly guessed now John cut bottom sheeting wing some reason sheeting still stuck some foam wouldnt come loose So dug little out find foam instead opening leadouts Upon some intensive examina tion John thought shake wing see could hear leadouts rattling around inside wing couldbut inside outboard wing Seems John done such nice job wing installed controls wrong side Oh well John maybe some day well come up inverted Slow youll have just plane next story must tell about Ric poor unfortunate soul bought Franks old 58powered Slow Rat Ric relative newcomer Control Line Racing having predominantly sport flier up until about three years ago Ric has come long way years hes still nationally competitive Houston Racer like Frank John still OK guy Now Texas fly event Ive mentioned before called Quickie Rat designed around profile Rat racers easy build fly easy build can whip out easy week Ric built flying him getting pretty tacky decided put together new Southwesterns Dallas last Labor Day heard week before contest neat new Rat was really going good Well. Labor Day weekend came Dallas fly Ric brought 118 Model Aviation IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT QUADRAS QUADRA REPAIR- $1000 plus parts Jim Messers ERCOUPE KIT- $19995* Concepts BIG FLEET KIT- $17995* Barkleys TIGER MOTH KIT- $22995* *includes FREE Du-Bro Wheels -SCALE PLANS FOR QUADRA ERCOUPE SKYBOLT- $2000 ea SUPER STEARMAN- $495 ZINGER & TOP FLITE PROPS- 10% off BALSA & SPRUCE sIzes- 45% off COCKPIT KIT Ercoupe- $1500 Stearman $1800 Fleet- $1800 RADIAL ENGINESfor Fleet- $3000 COVERITE 15 rolls - 20% off 24-Hour Seice. Add $250 postage Send Bank Check Money Order JIM MESSERS QUALITY MODEL PRODUCTS 106 Valley View DrAllegany NY 14706 New 1/4 SCALE 1918 NIEUPORT 28 C1 Far additional inloimalion WW 1 Classic Catalogue send $100 PROCTOR ENTERPRISES CORP PO Box 9641 San Diego CA 92109
Edition: Model Aviation - 1980/09
Page Numbers: 34, 35, 36, 118
NO OCR TEXT FULL-SIZE PLANS AVAILABLE SEE PAGE 128 NOTE PICAS WElT IS SPANTEP GLUE SPASS 2000 IAD LINE ISP WAS LEAD WRIAPT IS SNOT ROOT WINO TIP RIPS FOP ROOT WINO TOROAL / A, WING VS 51*1 VP 120 SALAD LEAPiNG ESIE S/INNNO sSRPN-OANO 0WSA PLAN 17 III IU 0W0SA W0OrDERTIAL ANOIN W WEe-AN NOT 0*41 GST/4IPE 00CR *110 OP FLEE EVANS TO LMROAP 4r* j .jW4E 2200 GEAR 000 PLVWOORIALT- OSEAN __ 0- IS FLTOOP SIR FOP 04 PLO NO SALLORAMC RAOE LOADNOTS PA NOTE ROlES 2011 SNOIPSOAN 0ILAROW SOARS TRAP AGES FAN 420 GELLANAPIS LOAIT ws FPA IN PLAHE/ ELCO AATR F ELCO P501 EPORS -PELLCANASS REAlS 0S%Z-VR ROLSS ROADS IS EIJIUE POSELOGE RISE OR BALSA bA p SPROT TAN R SOTROS 0 OS BALBA I/ JLx111 -50ttIL\ TWO 000$ EROENRARS F-PU WEET-TFN*BANO ROAN PNO 410 5252 P AAR*OT -4120SUET RCTAL ANON-VA NOS IIS BAG1RS0A0-R-ALWPALT&5A00Q0 HI~IiifljGEF0T-AOA GENIES -NOOBAATE CIA UNITOUT NOT AS P005BALSA TRINNIEL 07001 *5000 CGNIPRANTLARGE PIT aCOATAN ORON USE SAURAL SOLSITFl011021 O0SERNTSTR sIWETT0S-____ UGE OUTEP VOLE ONOTREL 1500 OS RALSR FAN VP ROIWAN RIEOW ORE TIWAGER CLEGTS FAN AANITANLPL NO FIREWALL-. H 6112FL NBLFP7i7FUSESIDE4VIEW.--NOOPLE HALOR-7201 ST P0 EASIER-2RTLS NOTOLATE SWATSOR PLO 0LLCSWSS FUEL ADP 020 02 TRA1G BY JOE LeMARCO ISALNA TRIANGLE STOOR RURREP ADOPANTS AlIIFPNOT SEW STAR FINOWALL t\IrGETSI REel NOT FAA FUSELAGE TOP VIEW0-4ANO WOOER TSSG FIPEWALLI--F-A -FAA]4 ELEVATOR CONTPALAFU 3450 THE Vista 49 built flown 1949 Plymouth meet Detroit 18-year-old modeler believe lived city Vista Californiahence name Vista 49 city San Diego 20 miles south Vista city Jim Saftig designer Super Zilches lived would think some Super Zilch influence origin Vista 49 Several models built 1950 1951 influenced Vista 49 ever didnt copy original model until now June 1979 30 years later came upon old snapshot mothers attic able redraw built second Vista 49 presented article original model powered Orwick 64 new Vista 49 has small case Supertigre 60 running 12 x 6 propeller 6 oz Sullivan Klunk Tank can new stunt pattern 70 ft lines flies approximately 65 mph stable easy control model does qualify Garden State Circle Burners Clubs old-time stunt rules published prior December 31 1952 however still oldtimer great merit new Vista 49 modified original adding landing gear some models days omitted landing gear save weight have also inverted engine will torn out during embar rassing inverted landings plans scaled original photograph best could comparing Vista 49 Super Duper Zilch regard wing area Vista 49 12 00 768 sq Zilch 12 sq Airfoil thickness Vista 49 Zilch Total Lift Ratio Vista 49 x 17 Zilch624 x 12 17an increase 70% lift Now Super Duper Zilches weighed 48 oz same Vista 49 therefore flight September 1980 35 told simple Vista DO beautiful Vista fly Authors model trimmed-out leadout guides Yours may require different location fly/trim fly/trim until feels right Belicrank leadouts behind spar lower speeds Vista 49 outfijes Super Duper Zilch wing area does trick new model flies very well expected dive hourglass maneuver pleasure model does accelerate much also turns reasonable square corners practice old Orwick engines no beam mounts therefore usually radial mounted firewall arrangement has used new model using factory engine backplate made Supertigres radial mounting advantages strength ease engine removal removing muffler room fuel tank behind firewall Sullivan 60 oz slant tank fits snugly fuselage shown plans Also have placed landing gear wings allow room fuel tank fuselage choose use conventional stunt tank will have cut lower part D section wing right 60 oz fuel tank will fit Beam engine mounts can also used plans include information install ing smaller 40 cu engine retrospect recommend using larger engine Wing wing can built two halves workbench wing jig Use white glue joints strength Use hard 5/16 square balsa spars add t spar shear webs after wing framed sheeted webs greatly increase strength wing must omitted control system mounted completely behind spar push rod Z-bend located outer hole belicrank eg 10 center 3-in bellcrank landing gear blocks reinforced using ood half ribs Use epoxy giue landing gear block joints bellcrank mount joints sure add ounce lead weight outside wing Fuselage sides fuselage plywood doublers can placed wing using epoxy giue Sig Epoxolite bulkheads also added glued place install engine firewall tank Add top bottom sheets fuselage will complete Notice have added re stringers strengthen fuselage corners Dont forget add pushrod guide midway along pushrod Tail Surfaces tail surfaces made hard 3/16 sheet balsa can made two 3/16 x 3 wide sheets sure use epoxy glue nylon hinges secure place tail assembly can now epoxy-glued fuselage elevator horn can con nected pushrod elevator should deflect 40 degrees up 40 degrees down Finish wing photo model finished blue MonoKote first bottom panel top panel within lage fuselage tail brushed three coats Aerogioss sanding sealer lightly sanded between coat 400 grit sandpaper fuselage painted three coats Aerogloss Fokker Red joints between fuselage paint wings MonoKote striped 14 white vinyl tape sure fuel-proof engine tank com partment epoxy paint order fully protect model fuel Flying CG controls shown plan model flies very well however models vary flight characteristics modeler will need trim model suit Continued page 118 36 Model Aviation Note use RC Control norn cievis pushrod Trim cutout aft former pushrod horn clevis drag MUST use keeper cievis CL model clear view underside Note four screws holding fuel tank hatch cover RC style torsion-bar strap-on landing gear Thats SuperTigre 60 noseneeds muffler author used custom SuperTigre backplate designed radial mounting type mount ing makes very neat front end instaliation will depend engine use whether can get fabricate such backplate Use radial RC mount last resort RC Pylon/Hager continued page 29 some liquid soap both 0 rings grooves install silicone #006 0 rings Lubricate inner 0 ring Lubriplate # 106 good lithium grease Reassemble needle valve unit grease outer 0 ring will find can move air adjusting arm 8 12 in-os torque well within strength limits KPS-18 FP-20 servos next step mill groove 375 Ys cutter 300 deep side mount can put needle up down whichever turns center groove cut 887 back mount drill tap two 440 holes side groove cut small metal strap drill two holes clamp needle valve unit mount Run Hot Stuff around needle valve unit screws cement whole mess mount Cut hole fuselage clear needle valve install mount needle valve unit Install fuel tubing running tank through cutoff new needle valve inlet Remove needle valve assembly engines carburetor make dump carb out Super Tigre K&B fuel inlet preferably K&B since made piece Screw nylon bolt other side carb needle valve used Cut off flush inside carb Hot Stuff nylon bolt place Hook in-flight unit needle valve outlet carb fuel tubing ready go beauty unit can actually change engines have install turn needle valve Once engine set morning adjusting done trans mitter allows pilot lean richen plane air long piece glow plug element left will try pass hints tips get have send Bill Hager 4622 Bridgeport Garland TX 75043 Vista/Marshall continued page 36 personal requirements Using 12-6 propeller 60 cu engine model flies best engine running fast 4 cyclejust would run pattern ship model too slow engine too rich too fast engine lean Ifly model 018 diameter lines 70 long lines little slack wing-overs engine too rich CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 38 straight may take operation get right also chance Pauls case leadouts may too low compared center gravity especially since plane has inverted engine As Chris Lella pointed out trimming articles could lead improper vertical balance result being outboard wingtip flying up However since kit original design would look also chance somehow Paul may have too much inboard flap causing inboard wing stall Out outside maneuvers result being outboard wing comes up inside maneuvers may just enough tip weight counterbalance stall noticed Lastly Paul may want try adding tip weight help hold Out plane outside maneuvers course easiest solution should try possiblity tip weight will really help hourglass vertical eights course too much tip weight wing will start dipping inside squares familiar hinging action conclude still feel Paul probably has built-in warp wing will either have tweak flaps steam wing following letter received Larry Miles 6595 Foxridge Drive Mission KS 66202 1 frequently see kids adults would like get UC flying am ignorant what good UC planes available magazines seem strangely silent about beginners UC Whats guy like hundreds others about advising new comers about easy build sturdy inexpensive flyable beginners planes Nobody looking after beginning UC needs doesnt make good sense seeing UC adaptable city dwellers use easiest learn Cox has come out electric UC about $700 K-Mart Woolco claim easiest UC plane ever fly Id like see product review plane Coxs claims true has no serious defects would ideal beginning pilots unable dont feel column right place types articles request forward letter some can does believe beginning should occupy large portion magazine Especially liked article listed planes good steps pilot profi ciency Think should frequently list planes column refer readers back past issue gives details sake new occasional readers Model Aviation answer Larrys letter feel beginning planes available control line time time beginning novice articles magazines frequency beginning radio control articles lets face ale just RC fliers writers out could produce articles beginning control line flying dont appear regularity writers have successful competition plane will take crusading CLers like yourself get ball rolling assist beginners Editors note See May 1979 issue ofModelAviation construction article Crashmaster superb beginners CL model comes two sizes too available full-size plan No 262 $125 See page 128 ordering instructions RBM information precision aerobatics PAMPA write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Drive Lexington KY 40504 RC Racing/Lee continued page 39 expected new Slow Rat real good John went over night Franks home very carefully jigged up block foam cut John some cores new super Slow Rat John got controls installed wing sheeted building fuselage Boy really making progress got wing glued going cut opening bottom wing sheeting access internal leadouts John being superior Houston Racer gone far make template installing controls would know EXACTLY leadouts would time came cut opening Well. youve undoubtedly guessed now John cut bottom sheeting wing some reason sheeting still stuck some foam wouldnt come loose So dug little out find foam instead opening leadouts Upon some intensive examina tion John thought shake wing see could hear leadouts rattling around inside wing couldbut inside outboard wing Seems John done such nice job wing installed controls wrong side Oh well John maybe some day well come up inverted Slow youll have just plane next story must tell about Ric poor unfortunate soul bought Franks old 58powered Slow Rat Ric relative newcomer Control Line Racing having predominantly sport flier up until about three years ago Ric has come long way years hes still nationally competitive Houston Racer like Frank John still OK guy Now Texas fly event Ive mentioned before called Quickie Rat designed around profile Rat racers easy build fly easy build can whip out easy week Ric built flying him getting pretty tacky decided put together new Southwesterns Dallas last Labor Day heard week before contest neat new Rat was really going good Well. Labor Day weekend came Dallas fly Ric brought 118 Model Aviation IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT QUADRAS QUADRA REPAIR- $1000 plus parts Jim Messers ERCOUPE KIT- $19995* Concepts BIG FLEET KIT- $17995* Barkleys TIGER MOTH KIT- $22995* *includes FREE Du-Bro Wheels -SCALE PLANS FOR QUADRA ERCOUPE SKYBOLT- $2000 ea SUPER STEARMAN- $495 ZINGER & TOP FLITE PROPS- 10% off BALSA & SPRUCE sIzes- 45% off COCKPIT KIT Ercoupe- $1500 Stearman $1800 Fleet- $1800 RADIAL ENGINESfor Fleet- $3000 COVERITE 15 rolls - 20% off 24-Hour Seice. Add $250 postage Send Bank Check Money Order JIM MESSERS QUALITY MODEL PRODUCTS 106 Valley View DrAllegany NY 14706 New 1/4 SCALE 1918 NIEUPORT 28 C1 Far additional inloimalion WW 1 Classic Catalogue send $100 PROCTOR ENTERPRISES CORP PO Box 9641 San Diego CA 92109
Edition: Model Aviation - 1980/09
Page Numbers: 34, 35, 36, 118
NO OCR TEXT FULL-SIZE PLANS AVAILABLE SEE PAGE 128 NOTE PICAS WElT IS SPANTEP GLUE SPASS 2000 IAD LINE ISP WAS LEAD WRIAPT IS SNOT ROOT WINO TIP RIPS FOP ROOT WINO TOROAL / A, WING VS 51*1 VP 120 SALAD LEAPiNG ESIE S/INNNO sSRPN-OANO 0WSA PLAN 17 III IU 0W0SA W0OrDERTIAL ANOIN W WEe-AN NOT 0*41 GST/4IPE 00CR *110 OP FLEE EVANS TO LMROAP 4r* j .jW4E 2200 GEAR 000 PLVWOORIALT- OSEAN __ 0- IS FLTOOP SIR FOP 04 PLO NO SALLORAMC RAOE LOADNOTS PA NOTE ROlES 2011 SNOIPSOAN 0ILAROW SOARS TRAP AGES FAN 420 GELLANAPIS LOAIT ws FPA IN PLAHE/ ELCO AATR F ELCO P501 EPORS -PELLCANASS REAlS 0S%Z-VR ROLSS ROADS IS EIJIUE POSELOGE RISE OR BALSA bA p SPROT TAN R SOTROS 0 OS BALBA I/ JLx111 -50ttIL\ TWO 000$ EROENRARS F-PU WEET-TFN*BANO ROAN PNO 410 5252 P AAR*OT -4120SUET RCTAL ANON-VA NOS IIS BAG1RS0A0-R-ALWPALT&5A00Q0 HI~IiifljGEF0T-AOA GENIES -NOOBAATE CIA UNITOUT NOT AS P005BALSA TRINNIEL 07001 *5000 CGNIPRANTLARGE PIT aCOATAN ORON USE SAURAL SOLSITFl011021 O0SERNTSTR sIWETT0S-____ UGE OUTEP VOLE ONOTREL 1500 OS RALSR FAN VP ROIWAN RIEOW ORE TIWAGER CLEGTS FAN AANITANLPL NO FIREWALL-. H 6112FL NBLFP7i7FUSESIDE4VIEW.--NOOPLE HALOR-7201 ST P0 EASIER-2RTLS NOTOLATE SWATSOR PLO 0LLCSWSS FUEL ADP 020 02 TRA1G BY JOE LeMARCO ISALNA TRIANGLE STOOR RURREP ADOPANTS AlIIFPNOT SEW STAR FINOWALL t\IrGETSI REel NOT FAA FUSELAGE TOP VIEW0-4ANO WOOER TSSG FIPEWALLI--F-A -FAA]4 ELEVATOR CONTPALAFU 3450 THE Vista 49 built flown 1949 Plymouth meet Detroit 18-year-old modeler believe lived city Vista Californiahence name Vista 49 city San Diego 20 miles south Vista city Jim Saftig designer Super Zilches lived would think some Super Zilch influence origin Vista 49 Several models built 1950 1951 influenced Vista 49 ever didnt copy original model until now June 1979 30 years later came upon old snapshot mothers attic able redraw built second Vista 49 presented article original model powered Orwick 64 new Vista 49 has small case Supertigre 60 running 12 x 6 propeller 6 oz Sullivan Klunk Tank can new stunt pattern 70 ft lines flies approximately 65 mph stable easy control model does qualify Garden State Circle Burners Clubs old-time stunt rules published prior December 31 1952 however still oldtimer great merit new Vista 49 modified original adding landing gear some models days omitted landing gear save weight have also inverted engine will torn out during embar rassing inverted landings plans scaled original photograph best could comparing Vista 49 Super Duper Zilch regard wing area Vista 49 12 00 768 sq Zilch 12 sq Airfoil thickness Vista 49 Zilch Total Lift Ratio Vista 49 x 17 Zilch624 x 12 17an increase 70% lift Now Super Duper Zilches weighed 48 oz same Vista 49 therefore flight September 1980 35 told simple Vista DO beautiful Vista fly Authors model trimmed-out leadout guides Yours may require different location fly/trim fly/trim until feels right Belicrank leadouts behind spar lower speeds Vista 49 outfijes Super Duper Zilch wing area does trick new model flies very well expected dive hourglass maneuver pleasure model does accelerate much also turns reasonable square corners practice old Orwick engines no beam mounts therefore usually radial mounted firewall arrangement has used new model using factory engine backplate made Supertigres radial mounting advantages strength ease engine removal removing muffler room fuel tank behind firewall Sullivan 60 oz slant tank fits snugly fuselage shown plans Also have placed landing gear wings allow room fuel tank fuselage choose use conventional stunt tank will have cut lower part D section wing right 60 oz fuel tank will fit Beam engine mounts can also used plans include information install ing smaller 40 cu engine retrospect recommend using larger engine Wing wing can built two halves workbench wing jig Use white glue joints strength Use hard 5/16 square balsa spars add t spar shear webs after wing framed sheeted webs greatly increase strength wing must omitted control system mounted completely behind spar push rod Z-bend located outer hole belicrank eg 10 center 3-in bellcrank landing gear blocks reinforced using ood half ribs Use epoxy giue landing gear block joints bellcrank mount joints sure add ounce lead weight outside wing Fuselage sides fuselage plywood doublers can placed wing using epoxy giue Sig Epoxolite bulkheads also added glued place install engine firewall tank Add top bottom sheets fuselage will complete Notice have added re stringers strengthen fuselage corners Dont forget add pushrod guide midway along pushrod Tail Surfaces tail surfaces made hard 3/16 sheet balsa can made two 3/16 x 3 wide sheets sure use epoxy glue nylon hinges secure place tail assembly can now epoxy-glued fuselage elevator horn can con nected pushrod elevator should deflect 40 degrees up 40 degrees down Finish wing photo model finished blue MonoKote first bottom panel top panel within lage fuselage tail brushed three coats Aerogioss sanding sealer lightly sanded between coat 400 grit sandpaper fuselage painted three coats Aerogloss Fokker Red joints between fuselage paint wings MonoKote striped 14 white vinyl tape sure fuel-proof engine tank com partment epoxy paint order fully protect model fuel Flying CG controls shown plan model flies very well however models vary flight characteristics modeler will need trim model suit Continued page 118 36 Model Aviation Note use RC Control norn cievis pushrod Trim cutout aft former pushrod horn clevis drag MUST use keeper cievis CL model clear view underside Note four screws holding fuel tank hatch cover RC style torsion-bar strap-on landing gear Thats SuperTigre 60 noseneeds muffler author used custom SuperTigre backplate designed radial mounting type mount ing makes very neat front end instaliation will depend engine use whether can get fabricate such backplate Use radial RC mount last resort RC Pylon/Hager continued page 29 some liquid soap both 0 rings grooves install silicone #006 0 rings Lubricate inner 0 ring Lubriplate # 106 good lithium grease Reassemble needle valve unit grease outer 0 ring will find can move air adjusting arm 8 12 in-os torque well within strength limits KPS-18 FP-20 servos next step mill groove 375 Ys cutter 300 deep side mount can put needle up down whichever turns center groove cut 887 back mount drill tap two 440 holes side groove cut small metal strap drill two holes clamp needle valve unit mount Run Hot Stuff around needle valve unit screws cement whole mess mount Cut hole fuselage clear needle valve install mount needle valve unit Install fuel tubing running tank through cutoff new needle valve inlet Remove needle valve assembly engines carburetor make dump carb out Super Tigre K&B fuel inlet preferably K&B since made piece Screw nylon bolt other side carb needle valve used Cut off flush inside carb Hot Stuff nylon bolt place Hook in-flight unit needle valve outlet carb fuel tubing ready go beauty unit can actually change engines have install turn needle valve Once engine set morning adjusting done trans mitter allows pilot lean richen plane air long piece glow plug element left will try pass hints tips get have send Bill Hager 4622 Bridgeport Garland TX 75043 Vista/Marshall continued page 36 personal requirements Using 12-6 propeller 60 cu engine model flies best engine running fast 4 cyclejust would run pattern ship model too slow engine too rich too fast engine lean Ifly model 018 diameter lines 70 long lines little slack wing-overs engine too rich CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 38 straight may take operation get right also chance Pauls case leadouts may too low compared center gravity especially since plane has inverted engine As Chris Lella pointed out trimming articles could lead improper vertical balance result being outboard wingtip flying up However since kit original design would look also chance somehow Paul may have too much inboard flap causing inboard wing stall Out outside maneuvers result being outboard wing comes up inside maneuvers may just enough tip weight counterbalance stall noticed Lastly Paul may want try adding tip weight help hold Out plane outside maneuvers course easiest solution should try possiblity tip weight will really help hourglass vertical eights course too much tip weight wing will start dipping inside squares familiar hinging action conclude still feel Paul probably has built-in warp wing will either have tweak flaps steam wing following letter received Larry Miles 6595 Foxridge Drive Mission KS 66202 1 frequently see kids adults would like get UC flying am ignorant what good UC planes available magazines seem strangely silent about beginners UC Whats guy like hundreds others about advising new comers about easy build sturdy inexpensive flyable beginners planes Nobody looking after beginning UC needs doesnt make good sense seeing UC adaptable city dwellers use easiest learn Cox has come out electric UC about $700 K-Mart Woolco claim easiest UC plane ever fly Id like see product review plane Coxs claims true has no serious defects would ideal beginning pilots unable dont feel column right place types articles request forward letter some can does believe beginning should occupy large portion magazine Especially liked article listed planes good steps pilot profi ciency Think should frequently list planes column refer readers back past issue gives details sake new occasional readers Model Aviation answer Larrys letter feel beginning planes available control line time time beginning novice articles magazines frequency beginning radio control articles lets face ale just RC fliers writers out could produce articles beginning control line flying dont appear regularity writers have successful competition plane will take crusading CLers like yourself get ball rolling assist beginners Editors note See May 1979 issue ofModelAviation construction article Crashmaster superb beginners CL model comes two sizes too available full-size plan No 262 $125 See page 128 ordering instructions RBM information precision aerobatics PAMPA write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Drive Lexington KY 40504 RC Racing/Lee continued page 39 expected new Slow Rat real good John went over night Franks home very carefully jigged up block foam cut John some cores new super Slow Rat John got controls installed wing sheeted building fuselage Boy really making progress got wing glued going cut opening bottom wing sheeting access internal leadouts John being superior Houston Racer gone far make template installing controls would know EXACTLY leadouts would time came cut opening Well. youve undoubtedly guessed now John cut bottom sheeting wing some reason sheeting still stuck some foam wouldnt come loose So dug little out find foam instead opening leadouts Upon some intensive examina tion John thought shake wing see could hear leadouts rattling around inside wing couldbut inside outboard wing Seems John done such nice job wing installed controls wrong side Oh well John maybe some day well come up inverted Slow youll have just plane next story must tell about Ric poor unfortunate soul bought Franks old 58powered Slow Rat Ric relative newcomer Control Line Racing having predominantly sport flier up until about three years ago Ric has come long way years hes still nationally competitive Houston Racer like Frank John still OK guy Now Texas fly event Ive mentioned before called Quickie Rat designed around profile Rat racers easy build fly easy build can whip out easy week Ric built flying him getting pretty tacky decided put together new Southwesterns Dallas last Labor Day heard week before contest neat new Rat was really going good Well. Labor Day weekend came Dallas fly Ric brought 118 Model Aviation IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT QUADRAS QUADRA REPAIR- $1000 plus parts Jim Messers ERCOUPE KIT- $19995* Concepts BIG FLEET KIT- $17995* Barkleys TIGER MOTH KIT- $22995* *includes FREE Du-Bro Wheels -SCALE PLANS FOR QUADRA ERCOUPE SKYBOLT- $2000 ea SUPER STEARMAN- $495 ZINGER & TOP FLITE PROPS- 10% off BALSA & SPRUCE sIzes- 45% off COCKPIT KIT Ercoupe- $1500 Stearman $1800 Fleet- $1800 RADIAL ENGINESfor Fleet- $3000 COVERITE 15 rolls - 20% off 24-Hour Seice. Add $250 postage Send Bank Check Money Order JIM MESSERS QUALITY MODEL PRODUCTS 106 Valley View DrAllegany NY 14706 New 1/4 SCALE 1918 NIEUPORT 28 C1 Far additional inloimalion WW 1 Classic Catalogue send $100 PROCTOR ENTERPRISES CORP PO Box 9641 San Diego CA 92109
Edition: Model Aviation - 1980/09
Page Numbers: 34, 35, 36, 118
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qualify Garden State Circle Burners Clubs old-time stunt rules published prior December 31 1952 however still oldtimer great merit new Vista 49 modified original adding landing gear some models days omitted landing gear save weight have also inverted engine will torn out during embar rassing inverted landings plans scaled original photograph best could comparing Vista 49 Super Duper Zilch regard wing area Vista 49 12 00 768 sq Zilch 12 sq Airfoil thickness Vista 49 Zilch Total Lift Ratio Vista 49 x 17 Zilch624 x 12 17an increase 70% lift Now Super Duper Zilches weighed 48 oz same Vista 49 therefore flight September 1980 35 told simple Vista DO beautiful Vista fly Authors model trimmed-out leadout guides Yours may require different location fly/trim fly/trim until feels right Belicrank leadouts behind spar lower speeds Vista 49 outfijes Super Duper Zilch wing area does trick new model flies very well expected dive hourglass maneuver pleasure model does accelerate much also turns reasonable square corners practice old Orwick engines no beam mounts therefore usually radial mounted firewall arrangement has used new model using factory engine backplate made Supertigres radial mounting advantages strength ease engine removal removing muffler room fuel tank behind firewall Sullivan 60 oz slant tank fits snugly fuselage shown plans Also have placed landing gear wings allow room fuel tank fuselage choose use conventional stunt tank will have cut lower part D section wing right 60 oz fuel tank will fit Beam engine mounts can also used plans include information install ing smaller 40 cu engine retrospect recommend using larger engine Wing wing can built two halves workbench wing jig Use white glue joints strength Use hard 5/16 square balsa spars add t spar shear webs after wing framed sheeted webs greatly increase strength wing must omitted control system mounted completely behind spar push rod Z-bend located outer hole belicrank eg 10 center 3-in bellcrank landing gear blocks reinforced using ood half ribs Use epoxy giue landing gear block joints bellcrank mount joints sure add ounce lead weight outside wing Fuselage sides fuselage plywood doublers can placed wing using epoxy giue Sig Epoxolite bulkheads also added glued place install engine firewall tank Add top bottom sheets fuselage will complete Notice have added re stringers strengthen fuselage corners Dont forget add pushrod guide midway along pushrod Tail Surfaces tail surfaces made hard 3/16 sheet balsa can made two 3/16 x 3 wide sheets sure use epoxy glue nylon hinges secure place tail assembly can now epoxy-glued fuselage elevator horn can con nected pushrod elevator should deflect 40 degrees up 40 degrees down Finish wing photo model finished blue MonoKote first bottom panel top panel within lage fuselage tail brushed three coats Aerogioss sanding sealer lightly sanded between coat 400 grit sandpaper fuselage painted three coats Aerogloss Fokker Red joints between fuselage paint wings MonoKote striped 14 white vinyl tape sure fuel-proof engine tank com partment epoxy paint order fully protect model fuel Flying CG controls shown plan model flies very well however models vary flight characteristics modeler will need trim model suit Continued page 118 36 Model Aviation Note use RC Control norn cievis pushrod Trim cutout aft former pushrod horn clevis drag MUST use keeper cievis CL model clear view underside Note four screws holding fuel tank hatch cover RC style torsion-bar strap-on landing gear Thats SuperTigre 60 noseneeds muffler author used custom SuperTigre backplate designed radial mounting type mount ing makes very neat front end instaliation will depend engine use whether can get fabricate such backplate Use radial RC mount last resort RC Pylon/Hager continued page 29 some liquid soap both 0 rings grooves install silicone #006 0 rings Lubricate inner 0 ring Lubriplate # 106 good lithium grease Reassemble needle valve unit grease outer 0 ring will find can move air adjusting arm 8 12 in-os torque well within strength limits KPS-18 FP-20 servos next step mill groove 375 Ys cutter 300 deep side mount can put needle up down whichever turns center groove cut 887 back mount drill tap two 440 holes side groove cut small metal strap drill two holes clamp needle valve unit mount Run Hot Stuff around needle valve unit screws cement whole mess mount Cut hole fuselage clear needle valve install mount needle valve unit Install fuel tubing running tank through cutoff new needle valve inlet Remove needle valve assembly engines carburetor make dump carb out Super Tigre K&B fuel inlet preferably K&B since made piece Screw nylon bolt other side carb needle valve used Cut off flush inside carb Hot Stuff nylon bolt place Hook in-flight unit needle valve outlet carb fuel tubing ready go beauty unit can actually change engines have install turn needle valve Once engine set morning adjusting done trans mitter allows pilot lean richen plane air long piece glow plug element left will try pass hints tips get have send Bill Hager 4622 Bridgeport Garland TX 75043 Vista/Marshall continued page 36 personal requirements Using 12-6 propeller 60 cu engine model flies best engine running fast 4 cyclejust would run pattern ship model too slow engine too rich too fast engine lean Ifly model 018 diameter lines 70 long lines little slack wing-overs engine too rich CL Aerobatics/Paul continued page 38 straight may take operation get right also chance Pauls case leadouts may too low compared center gravity especially since plane has inverted engine As Chris Lella pointed out trimming articles could lead improper vertical balance result being outboard wingtip flying up However since kit original design would look also chance somehow Paul may have too much inboard flap causing inboard wing stall Out outside maneuvers result being outboard wing comes up inside maneuvers may just enough tip weight counterbalance stall noticed Lastly Paul may want try adding tip weight help hold Out plane outside maneuvers course easiest solution should try possiblity tip weight will really help hourglass vertical eights course too much tip weight wing will start dipping inside squares familiar hinging action conclude still feel Paul probably has built-in warp wing will either have tweak flaps steam wing following letter received Larry Miles 6595 Foxridge Drive Mission KS 66202 1 frequently see kids adults would like get UC flying am ignorant what good UC planes available magazines seem strangely silent about beginners UC Whats guy like hundreds others about advising new comers about easy build sturdy inexpensive flyable beginners planes Nobody looking after beginning UC needs doesnt make good sense seeing UC adaptable city dwellers use easiest learn Cox has come out electric UC about $700 K-Mart Woolco claim easiest UC plane ever fly Id like see product review plane Coxs claims true has no serious defects would ideal beginning pilots unable dont feel column right place types articles request forward letter some can does believe beginning should occupy large portion magazine Especially liked article listed planes good steps pilot profi ciency Think should frequently list planes column refer readers back past issue gives details sake new occasional readers Model Aviation answer Larrys letter feel beginning planes available control line time time beginning novice articles magazines frequency beginning radio control articles lets face ale just RC fliers writers out could produce articles beginning control line flying dont appear regularity writers have successful competition plane will take crusading CLers like yourself get ball rolling assist beginners Editors note See May 1979 issue ofModelAviation construction article Crashmaster superb beginners CL model comes two sizes too available full-size plan No 262 $125 See page 128 ordering instructions RBM information precision aerobatics PAMPA write Wynn Paul 1640 Maywick Drive Lexington KY 40504 RC Racing/Lee continued page 39 expected new Slow Rat real good John went over night Franks home very carefully jigged up block foam cut John some cores new super Slow Rat John got controls installed wing sheeted building fuselage Boy really making progress got wing glued going cut opening bottom wing sheeting access internal leadouts John being superior Houston Racer gone far make template installing controls would know EXACTLY leadouts would time came cut opening Well. youve undoubtedly guessed now John cut bottom sheeting wing some reason sheeting still stuck some foam wouldnt come loose So dug little out find foam instead opening leadouts Upon some intensive examina tion John thought shake wing see could hear leadouts rattling around inside wing couldbut inside outboard wing Seems John done such nice job wing installed controls wrong side Oh well John maybe some day well come up inverted Slow youll have just plane next story must tell about Ric poor unfortunate soul bought Franks old 58powered Slow Rat Ric relative newcomer Control Line Racing having predominantly sport flier up until about three years ago Ric has come long way years hes still nationally competitive Houston Racer like Frank John still OK guy Now Texas fly event Ive mentioned before called Quickie Rat designed around profile Rat racers easy build fly easy build can whip out easy week Ric built flying him getting pretty tacky decided put together new Southwesterns Dallas last Labor Day heard week before contest neat new Rat was really going good Well. Labor Day weekend came Dallas fly Ric brought 118 Model Aviation IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT QUADRAS QUADRA REPAIR- $1000 plus parts Jim Messers ERCOUPE KIT- $19995* Concepts BIG FLEET KIT- $17995* Barkleys TIGER MOTH KIT- $22995* *includes FREE Du-Bro Wheels -SCALE PLANS FOR QUADRA ERCOUPE SKYBOLT- $2000 ea SUPER STEARMAN- $495 ZINGER & TOP FLITE PROPS- 10% off BALSA & SPRUCE sIzes- 45% off COCKPIT KIT Ercoupe- $1500 Stearman $1800 Fleet- $1800 RADIAL ENGINESfor Fleet- $3000 COVERITE 15 rolls - 20% off 24-Hour Seice. Add $250 postage Send Bank Check Money Order JIM MESSERS QUALITY MODEL PRODUCTS 106 Valley View DrAllegany NY 14706 New 1/4 SCALE 1918 NIEUPORT 28 C1 Far additional inloimalion WW 1 Classic Catalogue send $100 PROCTOR ENTERPRISES CORP PO Box 9641 San Diego CA 92109