Radio Control GIANT SCALE Bob Beckman WHEN plan PLAN Over past three years have looked atand reported ona lot Giant Scale plans proc ess find have reached some con clusions about plans general conclusions finding way reviews fairness both plan users actual potential plan producers think its time tried pass con clusions First Ive got talk little about philosophy building own mind identify three basic categories building kit-building plan-building scratchbuilding Most modelers seem recognize two categories use term scratch-built mean anything built kit lot reasons think catch-all term should split two reasons feel person designs documents model others can reproduce plans de serves some credit talk about such such model being built Nosen kit Balsa USA kit often information volunteered model made someones plans Time time again have people tell scratch-built model ask few questions find used plans produced someone else Now before start hissing booing please understand Im say ing anything wrong planbuilding just think guy put work designing original drawing plans should get share credit another reason think appropriate distinguish between planbuilding scratch-building RC modeling wellestablished construction-type hobby par ticipant usually follows well-defined pat tern skill development starts kit contains materials needed some cases some parts preformed and/or pre-assembled Once basic construction mastered usually goes better assembly finishing techniques Some people never build anything kits produce some beautiful fine-performing aircraft Some people however find arent satisfied kits available Maybe interested par ticular full-scale design hasnt kitted often case Giant Scale isnt available size want people ready next step find plans model want proceed procure process materials required Its very big difference skill level kit-building potentially very important now likely consider substituting different materials trying new techniques opinion planbuilding just tad creative straight kit-building plan-builders can justly proud efforts next step true scratch-building much bigger kit-building plan-building modeler becomes designer envisaging final product taking steps convert vision tangible operational reality Wait say Someone building Scale semi-Scale model real airplane already has design done him True sense outlines appearance dont kid yourselvesthere lot de sign involved working out aero dynamics structure successful min iature aircraft Im saying three building methods better other two over years Ive certainly used three myself also recognize can some fuzzy areas between Ive 50 Model Aviation Norm Rosenstock tachs big Kawasaki Waco Norm has plans also Great Lakes Trainer Farman Moustique oos camera managea w catcn premier oulider plan-producer Darlo Brisighella middle blink Darlo has plans Starduster Waco cabin biplane Steen Skybolt lell liostetler neeos no ntroaucIIon iianx caiers since ne first come out plans Big Birds Liberty Sport Others include gorgeous Art Chester Jeep plans opwnn riplane Larsair ana Ri -0 seen several models based kits extensively modified closer scratch-built course true scratch-builder wouldnt have other two categories first place So what does have conclusions about plans Well seems majority Giant Scale plan buyers plan-builders subset going flat-out beginners previous kit-builders standard RC models reason relative paucity Giant Scale kits cost means lot people looking plans use relatively inexperienced least Giant Scale people need some real guid ance materials construction tech niques should used experi enced RC modelers among seldom have real understanding different requirements larger airframes As result reaching conclusion find usually try look set plans little no background Giant Scale means plan doesnt have fair amount detail going seem very useful may seem fair some plan-makers its poten tial plan users Im trying help Im saying little thing has included Thats obviously impractical have assume some minimum skill level part builder What am saying lot plan-makers setting skill level too high Its easy see lot work involved detailing plans after first time two boring work lot easier say yourself plan really experi enced builder will know things anyway trouble that guy experience probably busy drawing up own plans message clear youre really interested selling plans youve got direct efforts toward volume market isthe relatively inexperienced builder experienced builder hap pens have yen particular plane have drawn up will still buy outnumbered 100-to-I people need will appreciate little extra help way good detailing Continued page 155 ROUSH ENGINES DIVISION OFROUSH MFG KNOCKS OUT THE COMPETITION 5TH PRICE ORMANCE ITY GIANT SCALE ACCESSORIES PROPS AVAILABLE SEND $100 FOR CATALOG Dealer Inquiries Invited MIDDLE WEIGHT 1623 lb Range HEAVY WEIGHT 23 lb & Up Waighi 15 Hp call Availability CHAMPIONSHIP FEATURES FOR ALL WEIGHT DIVISIONS Safety Prop Hub r Mount ttle Hookup Ball Bearings front rear Caged Roller Bearing Rod Life chrome Bore 1 Year Limited Warranty July 1983 51 dean Giant Scale plan makers Bob Morse few designs clockwise Bob Waco cabin FW Stosser Zlin Boeing F4B-2 Latest offerings Shoestring Douglas Skyraider Doug MacBriens Druine Turbulent very good beginners Giant Scale now has magnificent Kingfisher V5-scale .COMING SOON. LASER200 90 Span Epoxy Glass & Foam Construction 2-4 Hp Required z w IROUSH KITS COBRA 23 Weight 55 lb -28 Hp 14995 IUUIII ight 65 lb -32 Hp 17995 ROUSH MFG THEENGINE PEOPLE Rear 3405 Cleveland Ave. SW Canton OH 44707 Phone 1218 48481Oo 4844374 Engines RadIos Mufflers Custom Carburetors Gyros SUPER MINI-BOY VIDEO MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY BRINGS YOU ANOTHER HELICOPTER FIRST ProfessIonally produced video takes workshop professionally build set up flight trim mini-boy Includes step step building parts Iden tification mechanical operational walk through radio installation balancing bench setup operational flight trimming aerobatics video better having someone else build Mini-Boy Video produced Mike Mas National Helicopter Champion Available ary 1983 BETA VHS WE CAN SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR HELICOPTER NEEDS AT UNBEATABLE PRICES worlds Strongest Epoxy Glues Training Stands Mini-Boy Competition Pack Wide-Landing Gear Training Aids Float Kits Video Cassettes Helicopter Tools MOVE UP TO SCHLUTER See Dealer Call MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY 2594 North Orange Blossom Trail ndo FL 32804 e 305 4221531 appear radio units until late decade yet acceptance receiver transmitter published next month later assembled units sold through Ace established name Kraft Truly American success story Although Kraft hardly pioneer RC name eventually became synonymous sport Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued oaoe 51 photos month aircraft built what consider PLANS de signers involved good ones around opinion among very best Getting started recently got letter Israeli Control Line modeler inter ested getting Giant Scale prob lems really much different other newcomer delightful mania thought answer would worth pass ing Dear i3oaz Thank interest ing letter photos CL model apply kind workmanship Giant Scale efforts youll real credit branch hobby Answering questions presents bit problem fact proper answer everything mentioned letter would very complete book building Giant Scale aircraft As turns out already some books available First Dick Phillips writes Big Beautiful column RCM has put together very useful building large models think price $1000 Write Dick Phillips 9 Geneva Crescent St Al bert Alberta Canada T8N 0Z3 Next Model Airplane News recently put out special Giant Scale called Giant Steps has lot good information general building techniques should able get anyplace can buy MAN write Model Airplane News 837 Post Road Darien CT 06820 finally have written book titled Building Flying Giant Scale Radio Con trol Aircraft Kaimbach Publishing Co will bringing out early June price will less $15 will able buy hobby stores cant find write Ill see get copy Unfortunately has much information converting engines am working engine book will some time before available Ill try answer couple engine related ques tions went answer some specific questions asked point lot people out lot questions know other columnists think Old DAD Dick Al Don get letters like also just cant answer CAP 21 * Flown M les Reed air show IMAA Nat onals Ida Grove IA 88wing span 1232 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31 Plans S20 CAP 201 84 wing span 1272 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31Plans S20 TEMPEST 86 wing span 1420 sq 18-20 lbs engine 24-37Plans S25 RV3 * 86 wing span 1638 sq 17-19 lbs engine 20-31Plans SZO R C Garmhausen 2715 Maple Ave NIE Canton OH 44714 *R3 CAP 21 pre-assembled kits available Write information July 1983 155 ORDER YOUR VIDEO NOW 5 Plus Shipping The Best Custom Screen Sportswear Latest Design See Us NATS just some avaition designs available top quality line sportswear designs direct print eat transferl Gee Bee.P-4O Warhwks. Fokker DVII . P38. Christen Eagle -- Pitts Special . Citabria AT-6 P-47. Steerman. is Jenny . Corsair . Coaches Shirt$1295T-Shirt$695 Ladies Top$B50Long Sleeve T$7S5 Shorts$595BeseballSS95 Lined Jecket$2195FootballS895 Tote Bog$795Sweetshirt$950 Tire Cover$1495Hooded Sweat$1495 Het$S95 IWide choice colors sizesl Send $100 new illustrated Brochure Retundsbie First Order Name Address CityStateZip DesignSize Color now accept MasterCard & Visa TO ORDER Send check money order add 10% postagelhandling MD res 5% tax OR CALL COLLECT after 4pm write Phase Art 17102 Earlham Ct. Upper Marlboro MD 20772 301627-5118 adequately individual basis books mentioned dont have answers sure have lot Engine mounting got letter Wen dell Hostetler back contained some Interesting comments engine mounting following portion letter have always gut feeling full-scale planes cars use shockmounting system should Giant Scale mounting system shown plans has adequate maybe nec essarily superior solid firewall mount engines up 24 ad past three years have done lot flying custom 37 & 43 cu Kioritz engines larger engines have giving vibration real fight number little things have gone wrong larger engines planes use almost excepion bugs traced vibration About middle summer 1982 BB made concentrated effort solve vibration problem pur chased used several types Lord mounts installed various ways able reduce almost eliminate vibration airframe expense excessive vibration engine Over period six eight flights engines shaking themselves apart After much experimentation reverted solid fire wall engine mounting solid mounting unquestionably superior way go larger engines conclude dif ference between model applications full-scale use one-cylinder en gines herein lies difference Al though still vibration solidmount system tolerable enjoying good success have always felt long run solid mount airframe built absorb vibration superior attempt shock-mounting Wendell has come up some useful experience subject put finger what think key point using one-lungers simul taneous firing opposed twin might dif ferent matter Need machined parts Youve heard say times Giant Scale models much like full-scale aircraft Ily Ilike real airplanes ways can should built like real air planes particularly true high stress areas like landing gear strut fittings engine mounts exhaust systems etc some Items nature available com mercially always suitable particular scale subject Sometimes item will too large fit available space will visible just too non-scalelike acceptable such cases best often solution make reduced-size version original fitting structure using mate rials strong enough take stresses volved usually means metalworking some sort Most modelers can handle work involved example bending landine ecar 57~-in wire though seldom have since such items readily available what about 5/16 wire needed Giant Scale point cast forged welded machined parts needed true operational replicas real thing Few us have skills equipment needed kind work depend needed items being included kits buy being available models being built someone elses plans want design build scratch some times have give up favorite projects because cant make parts need recently got note Bob Demitz St Louis bears subject ineluded little flyer outfit called Mason Machine Phoenix AZ custom fabricating quantities several machine shops dont want talk about anything less hundreds sounds have experience equipment anything might need have no direct experience work Bob says has using work good price right need something like cant hurt check out Write Mason Machine 3439 W Michigan Ave Phoenix AZ 85023 Quantico Scale Rally Fifth Annual Scale Rally Marine Air Museum Quantico VA scheduled July 9 10 1983 event sponsored United States Marine Corps North ern Virginia RC Club event open Sport Scale model another example Giant Scale rapidly taking over special feature event Gemein hardt Trophy awarded Marine Corps best model aircraft ever flown Marines turns out surprisingly long list both Navy Army types information write CD Ed Bycrlcy 200 Commander Cove Staf ford VA 22554 call him 703 659-6469 Bob Beckman 8248 Holly Grove Ct Manassas VA 22110 RC Helicopters/Chesney Continued page 53 will caution planning install standard mixer Baronette collective pitch range reduced additional servo throw will necessary bring back collective range may have used mixer arms symmetrical collective pickup point going blades should point closest pivot hole order get max imum collective range still will prob ably have increase collective yoke throw bring things back collective range available unmixed Hiller rotor system Finally want say have appar ently ruffled few feathers regard last months column George Myers couldnt figure out impressed Baron 20 Perhaps George oth ers might like reread some earlier columns about machine Since seldom fly crowded flying site few see grin wear Im flying Baronette Lots grin about Toledo year See next month Dave Chesney PO Box 16612 Greensboro NC 27406 RC Pylon Racing/Hager Continued page 55 Sunday skies cloudy racing began about 1000 am 156 Model Aviation a
Edition: Model Aviation - 1983/07
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 156
Radio Control GIANT SCALE Bob Beckman WHEN plan PLAN Over past three years have looked atand reported ona lot Giant Scale plans proc ess find have reached some con clusions about plans general conclusions finding way reviews fairness both plan users actual potential plan producers think its time tried pass con clusions First Ive got talk little about philosophy building own mind identify three basic categories building kit-building plan-building scratchbuilding Most modelers seem recognize two categories use term scratch-built mean anything built kit lot reasons think catch-all term should split two reasons feel person designs documents model others can reproduce plans de serves some credit talk about such such model being built Nosen kit Balsa USA kit often information volunteered model made someones plans Time time again have people tell scratch-built model ask few questions find used plans produced someone else Now before start hissing booing please understand Im say ing anything wrong planbuilding just think guy put work designing original drawing plans should get share credit another reason think appropriate distinguish between planbuilding scratch-building RC modeling wellestablished construction-type hobby par ticipant usually follows well-defined pat tern skill development starts kit contains materials needed some cases some parts preformed and/or pre-assembled Once basic construction mastered usually goes better assembly finishing techniques Some people never build anything kits produce some beautiful fine-performing aircraft Some people however find arent satisfied kits available Maybe interested par ticular full-scale design hasnt kitted often case Giant Scale isnt available size want people ready next step find plans model want proceed procure process materials required Its very big difference skill level kit-building potentially very important now likely consider substituting different materials trying new techniques opinion planbuilding just tad creative straight kit-building plan-builders can justly proud efforts next step true scratch-building much bigger kit-building plan-building modeler becomes designer envisaging final product taking steps convert vision tangible operational reality Wait say Someone building Scale semi-Scale model real airplane already has design done him True sense outlines appearance dont kid yourselvesthere lot de sign involved working out aero dynamics structure successful min iature aircraft Im saying three building methods better other two over years Ive certainly used three myself also recognize can some fuzzy areas between Ive 50 Model Aviation Norm Rosenstock tachs big Kawasaki Waco Norm has plans also Great Lakes Trainer Farman Moustique oos camera managea w catcn premier oulider plan-producer Darlo Brisighella middle blink Darlo has plans Starduster Waco cabin biplane Steen Skybolt lell liostetler neeos no ntroaucIIon iianx caiers since ne first come out plans Big Birds Liberty Sport Others include gorgeous Art Chester Jeep plans opwnn riplane Larsair ana Ri -0 seen several models based kits extensively modified closer scratch-built course true scratch-builder wouldnt have other two categories first place So what does have conclusions about plans Well seems majority Giant Scale plan buyers plan-builders subset going flat-out beginners previous kit-builders standard RC models reason relative paucity Giant Scale kits cost means lot people looking plans use relatively inexperienced least Giant Scale people need some real guid ance materials construction tech niques should used experi enced RC modelers among seldom have real understanding different requirements larger airframes As result reaching conclusion find usually try look set plans little no background Giant Scale means plan doesnt have fair amount detail going seem very useful may seem fair some plan-makers its poten tial plan users Im trying help Im saying little thing has included Thats obviously impractical have assume some minimum skill level part builder What am saying lot plan-makers setting skill level too high Its easy see lot work involved detailing plans after first time two boring work lot easier say yourself plan really experi enced builder will know things anyway trouble that guy experience probably busy drawing up own plans message clear youre really interested selling plans youve got direct efforts toward volume market isthe relatively inexperienced builder experienced builder hap pens have yen particular plane have drawn up will still buy outnumbered 100-to-I people need will appreciate little extra help way good detailing Continued page 155 ROUSH ENGINES DIVISION OFROUSH MFG KNOCKS OUT THE COMPETITION 5TH PRICE ORMANCE ITY GIANT SCALE ACCESSORIES PROPS AVAILABLE SEND $100 FOR CATALOG Dealer Inquiries Invited MIDDLE WEIGHT 1623 lb Range HEAVY WEIGHT 23 lb & Up Waighi 15 Hp call Availability CHAMPIONSHIP FEATURES FOR ALL WEIGHT DIVISIONS Safety Prop Hub r Mount ttle Hookup Ball Bearings front rear Caged Roller Bearing Rod Life chrome Bore 1 Year Limited Warranty July 1983 51 dean Giant Scale plan makers Bob Morse few designs clockwise Bob Waco cabin FW Stosser Zlin Boeing F4B-2 Latest offerings Shoestring Douglas Skyraider Doug MacBriens Druine Turbulent very good beginners Giant Scale now has magnificent Kingfisher V5-scale .COMING SOON. LASER200 90 Span Epoxy Glass & Foam Construction 2-4 Hp Required z w IROUSH KITS COBRA 23 Weight 55 lb -28 Hp 14995 IUUIII ight 65 lb -32 Hp 17995 ROUSH MFG THEENGINE PEOPLE Rear 3405 Cleveland Ave. SW Canton OH 44707 Phone 1218 48481Oo 4844374 Engines RadIos Mufflers Custom Carburetors Gyros SUPER MINI-BOY VIDEO MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY BRINGS YOU ANOTHER HELICOPTER FIRST ProfessIonally produced video takes workshop professionally build set up flight trim mini-boy Includes step step building parts Iden tification mechanical operational walk through radio installation balancing bench setup operational flight trimming aerobatics video better having someone else build Mini-Boy Video produced Mike Mas National Helicopter Champion Available ary 1983 BETA VHS WE CAN SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR HELICOPTER NEEDS AT UNBEATABLE PRICES worlds Strongest Epoxy Glues Training Stands Mini-Boy Competition Pack Wide-Landing Gear Training Aids Float Kits Video Cassettes Helicopter Tools MOVE UP TO SCHLUTER See Dealer Call MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY 2594 North Orange Blossom Trail ndo FL 32804 e 305 4221531 appear radio units until late decade yet acceptance receiver transmitter published next month later assembled units sold through Ace established name Kraft Truly American success story Although Kraft hardly pioneer RC name eventually became synonymous sport Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued oaoe 51 photos month aircraft built what consider PLANS de signers involved good ones around opinion among very best Getting started recently got letter Israeli Control Line modeler inter ested getting Giant Scale prob lems really much different other newcomer delightful mania thought answer would worth pass ing Dear i3oaz Thank interest ing letter photos CL model apply kind workmanship Giant Scale efforts youll real credit branch hobby Answering questions presents bit problem fact proper answer everything mentioned letter would very complete book building Giant Scale aircraft As turns out already some books available First Dick Phillips writes Big Beautiful column RCM has put together very useful building large models think price $1000 Write Dick Phillips 9 Geneva Crescent St Al bert Alberta Canada T8N 0Z3 Next Model Airplane News recently put out special Giant Scale called Giant Steps has lot good information general building techniques should able get anyplace can buy MAN write Model Airplane News 837 Post Road Darien CT 06820 finally have written book titled Building Flying Giant Scale Radio Con trol Aircraft Kaimbach Publishing Co will bringing out early June price will less $15 will able buy hobby stores cant find write Ill see get copy Unfortunately has much information converting engines am working engine book will some time before available Ill try answer couple engine related ques tions went answer some specific questions asked point lot people out lot questions know other columnists think Old DAD Dick Al Don get letters like also just cant answer CAP 21 * Flown M les Reed air show IMAA Nat onals Ida Grove IA 88wing span 1232 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31 Plans S20 CAP 201 84 wing span 1272 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31Plans S20 TEMPEST 86 wing span 1420 sq 18-20 lbs engine 24-37Plans S25 RV3 * 86 wing span 1638 sq 17-19 lbs engine 20-31Plans SZO R C Garmhausen 2715 Maple Ave NIE Canton OH 44714 *R3 CAP 21 pre-assembled kits available Write information July 1983 155 ORDER YOUR VIDEO NOW 5 Plus Shipping The Best Custom Screen Sportswear Latest Design See Us NATS just some avaition designs available top quality line sportswear designs direct print eat transferl Gee Bee.P-4O Warhwks. Fokker DVII . P38. Christen Eagle -- Pitts Special . Citabria AT-6 P-47. Steerman. is Jenny . Corsair . Coaches Shirt$1295T-Shirt$695 Ladies Top$B50Long Sleeve T$7S5 Shorts$595BeseballSS95 Lined Jecket$2195FootballS895 Tote Bog$795Sweetshirt$950 Tire Cover$1495Hooded Sweat$1495 Het$S95 IWide choice colors sizesl Send $100 new illustrated Brochure Retundsbie First Order Name Address CityStateZip DesignSize Color now accept MasterCard & Visa TO ORDER Send check money order add 10% postagelhandling MD res 5% tax OR CALL COLLECT after 4pm write Phase Art 17102 Earlham Ct. Upper Marlboro MD 20772 301627-5118 adequately individual basis books mentioned dont have answers sure have lot Engine mounting got letter Wen dell Hostetler back contained some Interesting comments engine mounting following portion letter have always gut feeling full-scale planes cars use shockmounting system should Giant Scale mounting system shown plans has adequate maybe nec essarily superior solid firewall mount engines up 24 ad past three years have done lot flying custom 37 & 43 cu Kioritz engines larger engines have giving vibration real fight number little things have gone wrong larger engines planes use almost excepion bugs traced vibration About middle summer 1982 BB made concentrated effort solve vibration problem pur chased used several types Lord mounts installed various ways able reduce almost eliminate vibration airframe expense excessive vibration engine Over period six eight flights engines shaking themselves apart After much experimentation reverted solid fire wall engine mounting solid mounting unquestionably superior way go larger engines conclude dif ference between model applications full-scale use one-cylinder en gines herein lies difference Al though still vibration solidmount system tolerable enjoying good success have always felt long run solid mount airframe built absorb vibration superior attempt shock-mounting Wendell has come up some useful experience subject put finger what think key point using one-lungers simul taneous firing opposed twin might dif ferent matter Need machined parts Youve heard say times Giant Scale models much like full-scale aircraft Ily Ilike real airplanes ways can should built like real air planes particularly true high stress areas like landing gear strut fittings engine mounts exhaust systems etc some Items nature available com mercially always suitable particular scale subject Sometimes item will too large fit available space will visible just too non-scalelike acceptable such cases best often solution make reduced-size version original fitting structure using mate rials strong enough take stresses volved usually means metalworking some sort Most modelers can handle work involved example bending landine ecar 57~-in wire though seldom have since such items readily available what about 5/16 wire needed Giant Scale point cast forged welded machined parts needed true operational replicas real thing Few us have skills equipment needed kind work depend needed items being included kits buy being available models being built someone elses plans want design build scratch some times have give up favorite projects because cant make parts need recently got note Bob Demitz St Louis bears subject ineluded little flyer outfit called Mason Machine Phoenix AZ custom fabricating quantities several machine shops dont want talk about anything less hundreds sounds have experience equipment anything might need have no direct experience work Bob says has using work good price right need something like cant hurt check out Write Mason Machine 3439 W Michigan Ave Phoenix AZ 85023 Quantico Scale Rally Fifth Annual Scale Rally Marine Air Museum Quantico VA scheduled July 9 10 1983 event sponsored United States Marine Corps North ern Virginia RC Club event open Sport Scale model another example Giant Scale rapidly taking over special feature event Gemein hardt Trophy awarded Marine Corps best model aircraft ever flown Marines turns out surprisingly long list both Navy Army types information write CD Ed Bycrlcy 200 Commander Cove Staf ford VA 22554 call him 703 659-6469 Bob Beckman 8248 Holly Grove Ct Manassas VA 22110 RC Helicopters/Chesney Continued page 53 will caution planning install standard mixer Baronette collective pitch range reduced additional servo throw will necessary bring back collective range may have used mixer arms symmetrical collective pickup point going blades should point closest pivot hole order get max imum collective range still will prob ably have increase collective yoke throw bring things back collective range available unmixed Hiller rotor system Finally want say have appar ently ruffled few feathers regard last months column George Myers couldnt figure out impressed Baron 20 Perhaps George oth ers might like reread some earlier columns about machine Since seldom fly crowded flying site few see grin wear Im flying Baronette Lots grin about Toledo year See next month Dave Chesney PO Box 16612 Greensboro NC 27406 RC Pylon Racing/Hager Continued page 55 Sunday skies cloudy racing began about 1000 am 156 Model Aviation a
Edition: Model Aviation - 1983/07
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 156
Radio Control GIANT SCALE Bob Beckman WHEN plan PLAN Over past three years have looked atand reported ona lot Giant Scale plans proc ess find have reached some con clusions about plans general conclusions finding way reviews fairness both plan users actual potential plan producers think its time tried pass con clusions First Ive got talk little about philosophy building own mind identify three basic categories building kit-building plan-building scratchbuilding Most modelers seem recognize two categories use term scratch-built mean anything built kit lot reasons think catch-all term should split two reasons feel person designs documents model others can reproduce plans de serves some credit talk about such such model being built Nosen kit Balsa USA kit often information volunteered model made someones plans Time time again have people tell scratch-built model ask few questions find used plans produced someone else Now before start hissing booing please understand Im say ing anything wrong planbuilding just think guy put work designing original drawing plans should get share credit another reason think appropriate distinguish between planbuilding scratch-building RC modeling wellestablished construction-type hobby par ticipant usually follows well-defined pat tern skill development starts kit contains materials needed some cases some parts preformed and/or pre-assembled Once basic construction mastered usually goes better assembly finishing techniques Some people never build anything kits produce some beautiful fine-performing aircraft Some people however find arent satisfied kits available Maybe interested par ticular full-scale design hasnt kitted often case Giant Scale isnt available size want people ready next step find plans model want proceed procure process materials required Its very big difference skill level kit-building potentially very important now likely consider substituting different materials trying new techniques opinion planbuilding just tad creative straight kit-building plan-builders can justly proud efforts next step true scratch-building much bigger kit-building plan-building modeler becomes designer envisaging final product taking steps convert vision tangible operational reality Wait say Someone building Scale semi-Scale model real airplane already has design done him True sense outlines appearance dont kid yourselvesthere lot de sign involved working out aero dynamics structure successful min iature aircraft Im saying three building methods better other two over years Ive certainly used three myself also recognize can some fuzzy areas between Ive 50 Model Aviation Norm Rosenstock tachs big Kawasaki Waco Norm has plans also Great Lakes Trainer Farman Moustique oos camera managea w catcn premier oulider plan-producer Darlo Brisighella middle blink Darlo has plans Starduster Waco cabin biplane Steen Skybolt lell liostetler neeos no ntroaucIIon iianx caiers since ne first come out plans Big Birds Liberty Sport Others include gorgeous Art Chester Jeep plans opwnn riplane Larsair ana Ri -0 seen several models based kits extensively modified closer scratch-built course true scratch-builder wouldnt have other two categories first place So what does have conclusions about plans Well seems majority Giant Scale plan buyers plan-builders subset going flat-out beginners previous kit-builders standard RC models reason relative paucity Giant Scale kits cost means lot people looking plans use relatively inexperienced least Giant Scale people need some real guid ance materials construction tech niques should used experi enced RC modelers among seldom have real understanding different requirements larger airframes As result reaching conclusion find usually try look set plans little no background Giant Scale means plan doesnt have fair amount detail going seem very useful may seem fair some plan-makers its poten tial plan users Im trying help Im saying little thing has included Thats obviously impractical have assume some minimum skill level part builder What am saying lot plan-makers setting skill level too high Its easy see lot work involved detailing plans after first time two boring work lot easier say yourself plan really experi enced builder will know things anyway trouble that guy experience probably busy drawing up own plans message clear youre really interested selling plans youve got direct efforts toward volume market isthe relatively inexperienced builder experienced builder hap pens have yen particular plane have drawn up will still buy outnumbered 100-to-I people need will appreciate little extra help way good detailing Continued page 155 ROUSH ENGINES DIVISION OFROUSH MFG KNOCKS OUT THE COMPETITION 5TH PRICE ORMANCE ITY GIANT SCALE ACCESSORIES PROPS AVAILABLE SEND $100 FOR CATALOG Dealer Inquiries Invited MIDDLE WEIGHT 1623 lb Range HEAVY WEIGHT 23 lb & Up Waighi 15 Hp call Availability CHAMPIONSHIP FEATURES FOR ALL WEIGHT DIVISIONS Safety Prop Hub r Mount ttle Hookup Ball Bearings front rear Caged Roller Bearing Rod Life chrome Bore 1 Year Limited Warranty July 1983 51 dean Giant Scale plan makers Bob Morse few designs clockwise Bob Waco cabin FW Stosser Zlin Boeing F4B-2 Latest offerings Shoestring Douglas Skyraider Doug MacBriens Druine Turbulent very good beginners Giant Scale now has magnificent Kingfisher V5-scale .COMING SOON. LASER200 90 Span Epoxy Glass & Foam Construction 2-4 Hp Required z w IROUSH KITS COBRA 23 Weight 55 lb -28 Hp 14995 IUUIII ight 65 lb -32 Hp 17995 ROUSH MFG THEENGINE PEOPLE Rear 3405 Cleveland Ave. SW Canton OH 44707 Phone 1218 48481Oo 4844374 Engines RadIos Mufflers Custom Carburetors Gyros SUPER MINI-BOY VIDEO MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY BRINGS YOU ANOTHER HELICOPTER FIRST ProfessIonally produced video takes workshop professionally build set up flight trim mini-boy Includes step step building parts Iden tification mechanical operational walk through radio installation balancing bench setup operational flight trimming aerobatics video better having someone else build Mini-Boy Video produced Mike Mas National Helicopter Champion Available ary 1983 BETA VHS WE CAN SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR HELICOPTER NEEDS AT UNBEATABLE PRICES worlds Strongest Epoxy Glues Training Stands Mini-Boy Competition Pack Wide-Landing Gear Training Aids Float Kits Video Cassettes Helicopter Tools MOVE UP TO SCHLUTER See Dealer Call MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY 2594 North Orange Blossom Trail ndo FL 32804 e 305 4221531 appear radio units until late decade yet acceptance receiver transmitter published next month later assembled units sold through Ace established name Kraft Truly American success story Although Kraft hardly pioneer RC name eventually became synonymous sport Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued oaoe 51 photos month aircraft built what consider PLANS de signers involved good ones around opinion among very best Getting started recently got letter Israeli Control Line modeler inter ested getting Giant Scale prob lems really much different other newcomer delightful mania thought answer would worth pass ing Dear i3oaz Thank interest ing letter photos CL model apply kind workmanship Giant Scale efforts youll real credit branch hobby Answering questions presents bit problem fact proper answer everything mentioned letter would very complete book building Giant Scale aircraft As turns out already some books available First Dick Phillips writes Big Beautiful column RCM has put together very useful building large models think price $1000 Write Dick Phillips 9 Geneva Crescent St Al bert Alberta Canada T8N 0Z3 Next Model Airplane News recently put out special Giant Scale called Giant Steps has lot good information general building techniques should able get anyplace can buy MAN write Model Airplane News 837 Post Road Darien CT 06820 finally have written book titled Building Flying Giant Scale Radio Con trol Aircraft Kaimbach Publishing Co will bringing out early June price will less $15 will able buy hobby stores cant find write Ill see get copy Unfortunately has much information converting engines am working engine book will some time before available Ill try answer couple engine related ques tions went answer some specific questions asked point lot people out lot questions know other columnists think Old DAD Dick Al Don get letters like also just cant answer CAP 21 * Flown M les Reed air show IMAA Nat onals Ida Grove IA 88wing span 1232 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31 Plans S20 CAP 201 84 wing span 1272 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31Plans S20 TEMPEST 86 wing span 1420 sq 18-20 lbs engine 24-37Plans S25 RV3 * 86 wing span 1638 sq 17-19 lbs engine 20-31Plans SZO R C Garmhausen 2715 Maple Ave NIE Canton OH 44714 *R3 CAP 21 pre-assembled kits available Write information July 1983 155 ORDER YOUR VIDEO NOW 5 Plus Shipping The Best Custom Screen Sportswear Latest Design See Us NATS just some avaition designs available top quality line sportswear designs direct print eat transferl Gee Bee.P-4O Warhwks. Fokker DVII . P38. Christen Eagle -- Pitts Special . Citabria AT-6 P-47. Steerman. is Jenny . Corsair . Coaches Shirt$1295T-Shirt$695 Ladies Top$B50Long Sleeve T$7S5 Shorts$595BeseballSS95 Lined Jecket$2195FootballS895 Tote Bog$795Sweetshirt$950 Tire Cover$1495Hooded Sweat$1495 Het$S95 IWide choice colors sizesl Send $100 new illustrated Brochure Retundsbie First Order Name Address CityStateZip DesignSize Color now accept MasterCard & Visa TO ORDER Send check money order add 10% postagelhandling MD res 5% tax OR CALL COLLECT after 4pm write Phase Art 17102 Earlham Ct. Upper Marlboro MD 20772 301627-5118 adequately individual basis books mentioned dont have answers sure have lot Engine mounting got letter Wen dell Hostetler back contained some Interesting comments engine mounting following portion letter have always gut feeling full-scale planes cars use shockmounting system should Giant Scale mounting system shown plans has adequate maybe nec essarily superior solid firewall mount engines up 24 ad past three years have done lot flying custom 37 & 43 cu Kioritz engines larger engines have giving vibration real fight number little things have gone wrong larger engines planes use almost excepion bugs traced vibration About middle summer 1982 BB made concentrated effort solve vibration problem pur chased used several types Lord mounts installed various ways able reduce almost eliminate vibration airframe expense excessive vibration engine Over period six eight flights engines shaking themselves apart After much experimentation reverted solid fire wall engine mounting solid mounting unquestionably superior way go larger engines conclude dif ference between model applications full-scale use one-cylinder en gines herein lies difference Al though still vibration solidmount system tolerable enjoying good success have always felt long run solid mount airframe built absorb vibration superior attempt shock-mounting Wendell has come up some useful experience subject put finger what think key point using one-lungers simul taneous firing opposed twin might dif ferent matter Need machined parts Youve heard say times Giant Scale models much like full-scale aircraft Ily Ilike real airplanes ways can should built like real air planes particularly true high stress areas like landing gear strut fittings engine mounts exhaust systems etc some Items nature available com mercially always suitable particular scale subject Sometimes item will too large fit available space will visible just too non-scalelike acceptable such cases best often solution make reduced-size version original fitting structure using mate rials strong enough take stresses volved usually means metalworking some sort Most modelers can handle work involved example bending landine ecar 57~-in wire though seldom have since such items readily available what about 5/16 wire needed Giant Scale point cast forged welded machined parts needed true operational replicas real thing Few us have skills equipment needed kind work depend needed items being included kits buy being available models being built someone elses plans want design build scratch some times have give up favorite projects because cant make parts need recently got note Bob Demitz St Louis bears subject ineluded little flyer outfit called Mason Machine Phoenix AZ custom fabricating quantities several machine shops dont want talk about anything less hundreds sounds have experience equipment anything might need have no direct experience work Bob says has using work good price right need something like cant hurt check out Write Mason Machine 3439 W Michigan Ave Phoenix AZ 85023 Quantico Scale Rally Fifth Annual Scale Rally Marine Air Museum Quantico VA scheduled July 9 10 1983 event sponsored United States Marine Corps North ern Virginia RC Club event open Sport Scale model another example Giant Scale rapidly taking over special feature event Gemein hardt Trophy awarded Marine Corps best model aircraft ever flown Marines turns out surprisingly long list both Navy Army types information write CD Ed Bycrlcy 200 Commander Cove Staf ford VA 22554 call him 703 659-6469 Bob Beckman 8248 Holly Grove Ct Manassas VA 22110 RC Helicopters/Chesney Continued page 53 will caution planning install standard mixer Baronette collective pitch range reduced additional servo throw will necessary bring back collective range may have used mixer arms symmetrical collective pickup point going blades should point closest pivot hole order get max imum collective range still will prob ably have increase collective yoke throw bring things back collective range available unmixed Hiller rotor system Finally want say have appar ently ruffled few feathers regard last months column George Myers couldnt figure out impressed Baron 20 Perhaps George oth ers might like reread some earlier columns about machine Since seldom fly crowded flying site few see grin wear Im flying Baronette Lots grin about Toledo year See next month Dave Chesney PO Box 16612 Greensboro NC 27406 RC Pylon Racing/Hager Continued page 55 Sunday skies cloudy racing began about 1000 am 156 Model Aviation a
Edition: Model Aviation - 1983/07
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 156
Radio Control GIANT SCALE Bob Beckman WHEN plan PLAN Over past three years have looked atand reported ona lot Giant Scale plans proc ess find have reached some con clusions about plans general conclusions finding way reviews fairness both plan users actual potential plan producers think its time tried pass con clusions First Ive got talk little about philosophy building own mind identify three basic categories building kit-building plan-building scratchbuilding Most modelers seem recognize two categories use term scratch-built mean anything built kit lot reasons think catch-all term should split two reasons feel person designs documents model others can reproduce plans de serves some credit talk about such such model being built Nosen kit Balsa USA kit often information volunteered model made someones plans Time time again have people tell scratch-built model ask few questions find used plans produced someone else Now before start hissing booing please understand Im say ing anything wrong planbuilding just think guy put work designing original drawing plans should get share credit another reason think appropriate distinguish between planbuilding scratch-building RC modeling wellestablished construction-type hobby par ticipant usually follows well-defined pat tern skill development starts kit contains materials needed some cases some parts preformed and/or pre-assembled Once basic construction mastered usually goes better assembly finishing techniques Some people never build anything kits produce some beautiful fine-performing aircraft Some people however find arent satisfied kits available Maybe interested par ticular full-scale design hasnt kitted often case Giant Scale isnt available size want people ready next step find plans model want proceed procure process materials required Its very big difference skill level kit-building potentially very important now likely consider substituting different materials trying new techniques opinion planbuilding just tad creative straight kit-building plan-builders can justly proud efforts next step true scratch-building much bigger kit-building plan-building modeler becomes designer envisaging final product taking steps convert vision tangible operational reality Wait say Someone building Scale semi-Scale model real airplane already has design done him True sense outlines appearance dont kid yourselvesthere lot de sign involved working out aero dynamics structure successful min iature aircraft Im saying three building methods better other two over years Ive certainly used three myself also recognize can some fuzzy areas between Ive 50 Model Aviation Norm Rosenstock tachs big Kawasaki Waco Norm has plans also Great Lakes Trainer Farman Moustique oos camera managea w catcn premier oulider plan-producer Darlo Brisighella middle blink Darlo has plans Starduster Waco cabin biplane Steen Skybolt lell liostetler neeos no ntroaucIIon iianx caiers since ne first come out plans Big Birds Liberty Sport Others include gorgeous Art Chester Jeep plans opwnn riplane Larsair ana Ri -0 seen several models based kits extensively modified closer scratch-built course true scratch-builder wouldnt have other two categories first place So what does have conclusions about plans Well seems majority Giant Scale plan buyers plan-builders subset going flat-out beginners previous kit-builders standard RC models reason relative paucity Giant Scale kits cost means lot people looking plans use relatively inexperienced least Giant Scale people need some real guid ance materials construction tech niques should used experi enced RC modelers among seldom have real understanding different requirements larger airframes As result reaching conclusion find usually try look set plans little no background Giant Scale means plan doesnt have fair amount detail going seem very useful may seem fair some plan-makers its poten tial plan users Im trying help Im saying little thing has included Thats obviously impractical have assume some minimum skill level part builder What am saying lot plan-makers setting skill level too high Its easy see lot work involved detailing plans after first time two boring work lot easier say yourself plan really experi enced builder will know things anyway trouble that guy experience probably busy drawing up own plans message clear youre really interested selling plans youve got direct efforts toward volume market isthe relatively inexperienced builder experienced builder hap pens have yen particular plane have drawn up will still buy outnumbered 100-to-I people need will appreciate little extra help way good detailing Continued page 155 ROUSH ENGINES DIVISION OFROUSH MFG KNOCKS OUT THE COMPETITION 5TH PRICE ORMANCE ITY GIANT SCALE ACCESSORIES PROPS AVAILABLE SEND $100 FOR CATALOG Dealer Inquiries Invited MIDDLE WEIGHT 1623 lb Range HEAVY WEIGHT 23 lb & Up Waighi 15 Hp call Availability CHAMPIONSHIP FEATURES FOR ALL WEIGHT DIVISIONS Safety Prop Hub r Mount ttle Hookup Ball Bearings front rear Caged Roller Bearing Rod Life chrome Bore 1 Year Limited Warranty July 1983 51 dean Giant Scale plan makers Bob Morse few designs clockwise Bob Waco cabin FW Stosser Zlin Boeing F4B-2 Latest offerings Shoestring Douglas Skyraider Doug MacBriens Druine Turbulent very good beginners Giant Scale now has magnificent Kingfisher V5-scale .COMING SOON. LASER200 90 Span Epoxy Glass & Foam Construction 2-4 Hp Required z w IROUSH KITS COBRA 23 Weight 55 lb -28 Hp 14995 IUUIII ight 65 lb -32 Hp 17995 ROUSH MFG THEENGINE PEOPLE Rear 3405 Cleveland Ave. SW Canton OH 44707 Phone 1218 48481Oo 4844374 Engines RadIos Mufflers Custom Carburetors Gyros SUPER MINI-BOY VIDEO MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY BRINGS YOU ANOTHER HELICOPTER FIRST ProfessIonally produced video takes workshop professionally build set up flight trim mini-boy Includes step step building parts Iden tification mechanical operational walk through radio installation balancing bench setup operational flight trimming aerobatics video better having someone else build Mini-Boy Video produced Mike Mas National Helicopter Champion Available ary 1983 BETA VHS WE CAN SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR HELICOPTER NEEDS AT UNBEATABLE PRICES worlds Strongest Epoxy Glues Training Stands Mini-Boy Competition Pack Wide-Landing Gear Training Aids Float Kits Video Cassettes Helicopter Tools MOVE UP TO SCHLUTER See Dealer Call MINIATURE AIRCRAFT SUPPLY 2594 North Orange Blossom Trail ndo FL 32804 e 305 4221531 appear radio units until late decade yet acceptance receiver transmitter published next month later assembled units sold through Ace established name Kraft Truly American success story Although Kraft hardly pioneer RC name eventually became synonymous sport Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued oaoe 51 photos month aircraft built what consider PLANS de signers involved good ones around opinion among very best Getting started recently got letter Israeli Control Line modeler inter ested getting Giant Scale prob lems really much different other newcomer delightful mania thought answer would worth pass ing Dear i3oaz Thank interest ing letter photos CL model apply kind workmanship Giant Scale efforts youll real credit branch hobby Answering questions presents bit problem fact proper answer everything mentioned letter would very complete book building Giant Scale aircraft As turns out already some books available First Dick Phillips writes Big Beautiful column RCM has put together very useful building large models think price $1000 Write Dick Phillips 9 Geneva Crescent St Al bert Alberta Canada T8N 0Z3 Next Model Airplane News recently put out special Giant Scale called Giant Steps has lot good information general building techniques should able get anyplace can buy MAN write Model Airplane News 837 Post Road Darien CT 06820 finally have written book titled Building Flying Giant Scale Radio Con trol Aircraft Kaimbach Publishing Co will bringing out early June price will less $15 will able buy hobby stores cant find write Ill see get copy Unfortunately has much information converting engines am working engine book will some time before available Ill try answer couple engine related ques tions went answer some specific questions asked point lot people out lot questions know other columnists think Old DAD Dick Al Don get letters like also just cant answer CAP 21 * Flown M les Reed air show IMAA Nat onals Ida Grove IA 88wing span 1232 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31 Plans S20 CAP 201 84 wing span 1272 sq 16-18 lbs engine 20-31Plans S20 TEMPEST 86 wing span 1420 sq 18-20 lbs engine 24-37Plans S25 RV3 * 86 wing span 1638 sq 17-19 lbs engine 20-31Plans SZO R C Garmhausen 2715 Maple Ave NIE Canton OH 44714 *R3 CAP 21 pre-assembled kits available Write information July 1983 155 ORDER YOUR VIDEO NOW 5 Plus Shipping The Best Custom Screen Sportswear Latest Design See Us NATS just some avaition designs available top quality line sportswear designs direct print eat transferl Gee Bee.P-4O Warhwks. Fokker DVII . P38. Christen Eagle -- Pitts Special . Citabria AT-6 P-47. Steerman. is Jenny . Corsair . Coaches Shirt$1295T-Shirt$695 Ladies Top$B50Long Sleeve T$7S5 Shorts$595BeseballSS95 Lined Jecket$2195FootballS895 Tote Bog$795Sweetshirt$950 Tire Cover$1495Hooded Sweat$1495 Het$S95 IWide choice colors sizesl Send $100 new illustrated Brochure Retundsbie First Order Name Address CityStateZip DesignSize Color now accept MasterCard & Visa TO ORDER Send check money order add 10% postagelhandling MD res 5% tax OR CALL COLLECT after 4pm write Phase Art 17102 Earlham Ct. Upper Marlboro MD 20772 301627-5118 adequately individual basis books mentioned dont have answers sure have lot Engine mounting got letter Wen dell Hostetler back contained some Interesting comments engine mounting following portion letter have always gut feeling full-scale planes cars use shockmounting system should Giant Scale mounting system shown plans has adequate maybe nec essarily superior solid firewall mount engines up 24 ad past three years have done lot flying custom 37 & 43 cu Kioritz engines larger engines have giving vibration real fight number little things have gone wrong larger engines planes use almost excepion bugs traced vibration About middle summer 1982 BB made concentrated effort solve vibration problem pur chased used several types Lord mounts installed various ways able reduce almost eliminate vibration airframe expense excessive vibration engine Over period six eight flights engines shaking themselves apart After much experimentation reverted solid fire wall engine mounting solid mounting unquestionably superior way go larger engines conclude dif ference between model applications full-scale use one-cylinder en gines herein lies difference Al though still vibration solidmount system tolerable enjoying good success have always felt long run solid mount airframe built absorb vibration superior attempt shock-mounting Wendell has come up some useful experience subject put finger what think key point using one-lungers simul taneous firing opposed twin might dif ferent matter Need machined parts Youve heard say times Giant Scale models much like full-scale aircraft Ily Ilike real airplanes ways can should built like real air planes particularly true high stress areas like landing gear strut fittings engine mounts exhaust systems etc some Items nature available com mercially always suitable particular scale subject Sometimes item will too large fit available space will visible just too non-scalelike acceptable such cases best often solution make reduced-size version original fitting structure using mate rials strong enough take stresses volved usually means metalworking some sort Most modelers can handle work involved example bending landine ecar 57~-in wire though seldom have since such items readily available what about 5/16 wire needed Giant Scale point cast forged welded machined parts needed true operational replicas real thing Few us have skills equipment needed kind work depend needed items being included kits buy being available models being built someone elses plans want design build scratch some times have give up favorite projects because cant make parts need recently got note Bob Demitz St Louis bears subject ineluded little flyer outfit called Mason Machine Phoenix AZ custom fabricating quantities several machine shops dont want talk about anything less hundreds sounds have experience equipment anything might need have no direct experience work Bob says has using work good price right need something like cant hurt check out Write Mason Machine 3439 W Michigan Ave Phoenix AZ 85023 Quantico Scale Rally Fifth Annual Scale Rally Marine Air Museum Quantico VA scheduled July 9 10 1983 event sponsored United States Marine Corps North ern Virginia RC Club event open Sport Scale model another example Giant Scale rapidly taking over special feature event Gemein hardt Trophy awarded Marine Corps best model aircraft ever flown Marines turns out surprisingly long list both Navy Army types information write CD Ed Bycrlcy 200 Commander Cove Staf ford VA 22554 call him 703 659-6469 Bob Beckman 8248 Holly Grove Ct Manassas VA 22110 RC Helicopters/Chesney Continued page 53 will caution planning install standard mixer Baronette collective pitch range reduced additional servo throw will necessary bring back collective range may have used mixer arms symmetrical collective pickup point going blades should point closest pivot hole order get max imum collective range still will prob ably have increase collective yoke throw bring things back collective range available unmixed Hiller rotor system Finally want say have appar ently ruffled few feathers regard last months column George Myers couldnt figure out impressed Baron 20 Perhaps George oth ers might like reread some earlier columns about machine Since seldom fly crowded flying site few see grin wear Im flying Baronette Lots grin about Toledo year See next month Dave Chesney PO Box 16612 Greensboro NC 27406 RC Pylon Racing/Hager Continued page 55 Sunday skies cloudy racing began about 1000 am 156 Model Aviation a