Radio Control OLD- TIMER Dee B3 Mathews RESURGENCE satisfying aspects activities RC OldTimers Contributing Editor has see long-forgotten model designs reappear hands O-T enthusiasts prove themselves superior fliers planes have great deal elegance especially theyre flight Once someone rediscovers ancient goodies builds flies few SAM contests especially win see more appear flying fields can hope efforts direction have enabled others find greater enjoyment fine hobby Old-Timer month February 1980 Joe Percys version Mar quardt Riser Rider time design rarely seen SAM contestsnow course has established itself excel lent choice Another sleeper has Roger Hammer Flamingo Old-Timer Month July 1979 Rob Williams demon strated 1983 SAM Champs design just another pretty face superb competition ma chine Williams placed second Texaco first competition hed ever en tered Still another uncommon design excellent potential months featured OT Ross Thomas flew Sunduster powered ignition McCoy 60 impressed us model possessed screaming climb yet floats very slowly Ross used chrome MonoKote upper surfaces black bottom com bination markedly easier see air sun would flash off top turn black underside excellent overhead years have looung Jerry Broffmans Stratofly Sunduster construction article MAN August 1942 premonition po tential real winner Ross has proven hunch correct text construction article con tains some interesting comments such ship has designed extra wing area its size motor order proFrom MAN August 1942 Ia 9- crutch otts coil B K THE SUNDUS TER Designed byJERRYBROFMAN Wing Span 88 ins Wing Area sq ins Wing ChordI3ins Aspect Ratio67 tol 6 stringers L. ii ~LbattII Sc iiI_ NV Si ES 0924S500iS 55S mote excellent soaring qualities something essential contest ship other requirement climb achieve qualities ship designed corporate following features 1 long nose moment help hold its course 2 thin airfoil give speed climb less drag 3 completely cowled inverted motor streamlined light ef ficient fuselage reduce drag give fast climb 4 Large elevator surfaces pre vent stalling induce stability 5 Light strong easy-to-build structure can add comments 52 Model Aviation Doc observes Jerry Broff man Sunduster real sleeperbut Ross Thomas woke up 83 SAM Champs ignition McCoy 60-powered example CG 70% chord Doc says files well Playboy hes seen Top surfaces silver MorioKote sure enough worked Construction Sunduster rather standard period fuselage built crutch triangular bottom rounded formers top familiar crutch constructionand may since technique seldom used modern constructionframework case /4 x /-in balsa built flat working surface bottom formers ad hered structure removed board upper formers stringers added advantage sort con struction absolutely true square framework results wing uses double spars /2 x 3/ hard front single /2 X /2 lower surface rear TE /2 x stock builds flat board though section undercambered x ing edge /4-in tips complete framework Poly-dihedral used sheet gussets both faces joints sheeting center section Broffman recommends silkspan wings Empennage -in outlines single spar ribs outlines block-sanded shape cant avoid noting similarity construction Sunduster Sal Taibis Pacer Scotty Murrys designs shouldnt sur prising members Brooklyn Skyscrapers time Free Flight readers Broffman trimmed design left turn right glide also states ship will need full power motor 1050 sq area Sunduster weighed Continued page 144 RGB HOBBY ENTERPRISES 0 2895 Derry Rd Toronto Ontario CANADA L4T 1A6 416-671-0851 ROSSI Engines $18500 $17500 $18000 $12000 $15000 65 RE wipipe 60 SE w/pipe 61 REw/pipe 15 Combat 15 Speed w/pipe Ross Parts accessories C Picco Glow Plugs140Rossie Glow Plugs$175 . _________________________ C LPRICESINCANADIANDOLLARS Russian Team Racing Specialist Full line MK products kits accessories Special Prices ROMAIR Products D 2 March 1984 53 R Williams Hammer Flamingo goes really well OS 60 4-stroke very first contest Williams entered placed RC Texaco PICCO Engines 60 SE w/pipe$13500 60 RE wlpipe$14500 45 SE w/pipe$8600 40 SE wlpipe$8500 40 Pylon w/pipe$11000 45 Pylon w/pipe$12000 Full line Picco parts accessories engines r CHIPOLLU Engines 25 Combat Special ABC & AAC $6000 25 Team Racing Diesel$25000 Glow Plugs$125 RC AerobaticsNan Putte Continued page 140 ably would better off avoided flying thunderstorms area As written cold weather just hit part Florida Yes know what frost like along Gulf Coast am about begin winter hibernation because dont like cold weather shiv ering flying field isnt idea fun So Ive given engines good shot rust preventative should keep good shape until its time wake next spring forgot winterize engines last fall its February read wouldnt hurt now Better late never comes winterizing engines could preclude having buy new bearings next spring Ron Van Putte 111 Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Soaring/Pruss Continued page 51 sport youre asking Whats Well radio dependable radiowhich hasnt scene few years still see popping up flying scene time time Good news still have need servicing Full ser vice replacement parts available Full Command Systems 908 E Rosewood Spokane WA 99208 new catalog tells Davey Systems Corporation folks have come up line-retriever really works Ted Davey has made Sail plane life simpler often-sought-after winch items winch drum usually stops do-it-yourselfers cold Ted has available drum has 5/s-in bore ideally suited Ford long-shaft startersa four-in center four-in spacing between eight-in -diameter plates goes $50 plus $3 shipping See DSCs ad issue Model Aviation winch retrieval systems HIGH QUALITY FOAM WING CORES AND CUSTOM FOAM CUTTING have large selection wing cores available stock meet modeling needs also specialize custom cutting reasonable prices like top quality products low prices fast service contact us next project information & p ces contac Ocean State Aeromode Eng nneer ng 21 Jaycee Dr West Warwick Rl 02893 OrcallRonaftar6OOpm -40 82888 3 Fec Feam its Beat Deal Best Stretched Sagitta Tommy Kallevang shows plane took him first place 1983 LSF Tournaments TwoMeter division Tom stretched Sagittas tail moment reconstructing fuselage sides Using 3/32-in balsa facing ner surfaces A2-in plywood fuselages full length Tom maintained nose sections wing former locations added 1 /2 between wing tail flies like charm Proof LSF Tournaments final standings Im winding down year thinking about 1984 Nats will Reno will year LSF regionals F3B team selection program will underway Get building have happy 1984 Dan Pruss 131 E Pennington Ln Plainfield IL 60544 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 53 52 oz Brown Jr 54 Den nymite 56 O&R 60 56 Super Cyclone Wing loading would figure about 85 oz/sq ft Jerry Broffman also published reduced size design September 1944 issue MAN Stratofly Starduster Although publication date would make Starduster SAM-legal strongly suspect some research could established developed flown 1942 reader knows whereabouts Jerry Broffman perhaps could confirm suspicion Broffman entered commercial end hobby postwar era Enter prise Model Aircraft number classic kits produced such McGoverns Pi rate Bob Tuckers Tuckette Interest ingly entered booming market 1950 36-in Free Flight design called Champion bears remarkable re semblance feature designonly windows brings up another interesting point although Starduster/Sunduster designs have no windows arent actually cabin designs force arrangement both models certainly unlike pylon design have ever seen SAM Contest Directors going facing dilemma some contestant walks up tries enter C Cabin what its worth Websters dictionarys definition cabin describes enclosure makes no mention windows portholes power Bob Lowe Mul dersdrift South Africa recently wrote quiring about power choices RC OldTimers reference specifically engines shown original drawings comparison contemporary power plants written piece about early columns perhaps others have become interested subject re cently also would have oppor tunity read column Basically SAM rules limit engine size 10 cu displacement per 225 sq wing total area Four-cycle power plants considered 60% glow dis placement pretty fair guideline except tremendous disparity exists power per displacement between engines As example consider Duke Foxs two 19s cross-flow version would pull 450 sq Old-Timer realistic calm manner other hand 19 BB Schnuerle unit would pull same model climb rates comparable FAT Power FF model As matter fact wing would jeopardy folding beefed up same comparisons apply engines nearly displacement So experience power choice related type flying interested low-key sport flying Schnuerle units need 300 350 sq per 10 cu displacement Fox BB better-suited 600-700 sq model example fire-breathing Schnuerle 40 would bestsuited 1200 1400 sq model sport role competition motivator means power better personal experience fourstrokers seems indicate 60% rule bit underestimate incred ible little jewels sport flying rec ommend using 70% factor cur rently flying model set up can switch 05 25 FSR 05 40 four-stroke model aerobatic 25 much stronger four-stroker Vertical performance 25 slug gish will vertical eights stroker Ouch Somehow crossed up roll film notes SAM Champs lead photo November 1983 issue certainly Garami Molecule fact So Long being launched good friend Bill Baker Norman OK Ill never live mistake down Another error popped up caption under Marion Knights electric model September 1983 column photos provided guest-writer Dick Haung Continued page 146 144 Model Aviation Winning Ideas FOUFIMOST E$ RETRACTABLE TOW HOOK RELEASE Price Simplest reliable device available After line released hook retracts body unit leaving SMOOTH surface bottom aircraft No special attachments required N eight 4 oz 0491051 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT REDUCES DRAG VIBRATION FREE PRICE $300 PRICE $630 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 144 misinterpreted information model Laurie Expenemental Zaic design Yearbook Frank tells us Marions may well first ever built since drew up teaser Finally captioned Bill Winter Citizen photo March 1983 column Citizen powered Mills 13 diesel Bill says ED Well looked like Mills errors aware Lord knows whate else weve done thing about us write sometimes wonder anyone reading work Man make mistake quickly learn youre being read Toys tools Weve using Bob Davis clever little hand drills wouldnt thing has bits inside screw-capped chamber sure helps keep track particularly handy device drilling holes inside con fined spaces pet use making holes servo screws Very useful tool Joe Utasi Jomar has speed-controller electric-powered units very useful feature two Most prominent over ride can used actuate relays low end relays can used short across motor windings through resistor act brake will stop prop using folding props Jomar SC-2 unit well-made very useful device wide-bladed Y&O props ignition runners seem prefer available Y&O Props PO Box 983 Walnut Grove CA 95680 phone 916-776-1371 also work well new four-strokers Got oddball mister always need photos unusual Old-Timer subjects can now use good-quality color prints slides send us picture two Flying Aces Dragon Fly Peerless Black Hawk etc Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued Daqe 55 George also sent size price list pre-cut basswood can supply Bass nice material Giant Scale little heav ier spruce same size can use slightly smaller sizes have same strength youre interested note George will get list George McGin nis 144 Murray Ave Goshen NY 10924 pros views Another letter lot interesting things came Bill Skip per Greeley CO Bill has pro fessional airshow pilot flying neat-looking bipe designed built himself has also RC modeler years parts letter interested latest comments October 1983 column concerning Ida Grove event ew pro airshows nine years being RC flier years tried have local RC demon strations during intermissions worked out rather well about mixing could take el meet model meet airshow airshow Bills background would have ex pected different reaction feels models full-sized birds mix about well custard onions just beginning letter went tell about modified Nosen Big Stik bird three years old has powered Q35 Q50 now Tartan ignition twin Among other things Bill mentioned has installed separate batteries receiver servos technique have advocated some time opinion best way keep servo/wiring glitches out re ceiver usually have aileron servos cables about three feet long Ive never problem Getting back Bills letter goes 40 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT IDEAL FOR QUICKY 500 OTHER FOURMOST PRODUCTS Fuel Fitting Sets Fuel Shut Off Fuel Manifold Gapless Hinges Gapless Hinge Slotter Strut Fairings Cockpit Coaming Send SASE Complete Information 4040 24th Ave Forest Grove OR 97116 CTS Phone 503 357-2732 Astounding reaiism plastics.. Very lignt weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete 1/6 Scale 1/4 Scale 1/3 Scale See Dealer add NYS Residents sad * Sales tax tssd x IMAA ntert FlvlngSdn Dollar direct order handling Sunday trainer fun fly con tests Yeuhi~th flight perform encel balsa consTruction See review April 83 RCM issue Engine 40.51 Wing Area 600 sqin Weight 5 lbs Radio 4 channel Special offer $4994 & $300 shipping CA res add 6% RICKS KITS PC Sex 1106 Santee CA 920716194493316
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/03
Page Numbers: 52, 53, 144, 146
Radio Control OLD- TIMER Dee B3 Mathews RESURGENCE satisfying aspects activities RC OldTimers Contributing Editor has see long-forgotten model designs reappear hands O-T enthusiasts prove themselves superior fliers planes have great deal elegance especially theyre flight Once someone rediscovers ancient goodies builds flies few SAM contests especially win see more appear flying fields can hope efforts direction have enabled others find greater enjoyment fine hobby Old-Timer month February 1980 Joe Percys version Mar quardt Riser Rider time design rarely seen SAM contestsnow course has established itself excel lent choice Another sleeper has Roger Hammer Flamingo Old-Timer Month July 1979 Rob Williams demon strated 1983 SAM Champs design just another pretty face superb competition ma chine Williams placed second Texaco first competition hed ever en tered Still another uncommon design excellent potential months featured OT Ross Thomas flew Sunduster powered ignition McCoy 60 impressed us model possessed screaming climb yet floats very slowly Ross used chrome MonoKote upper surfaces black bottom com bination markedly easier see air sun would flash off top turn black underside excellent overhead years have looung Jerry Broffmans Stratofly Sunduster construction article MAN August 1942 premonition po tential real winner Ross has proven hunch correct text construction article con tains some interesting comments such ship has designed extra wing area its size motor order proFrom MAN August 1942 Ia 9- crutch otts coil B K THE SUNDUS TER Designed byJERRYBROFMAN Wing Span 88 ins Wing Area sq ins Wing ChordI3ins Aspect Ratio67 tol 6 stringers L. ii ~LbattII Sc iiI_ NV Si ES 0924S500iS 55S mote excellent soaring qualities something essential contest ship other requirement climb achieve qualities ship designed corporate following features 1 long nose moment help hold its course 2 thin airfoil give speed climb less drag 3 completely cowled inverted motor streamlined light ef ficient fuselage reduce drag give fast climb 4 Large elevator surfaces pre vent stalling induce stability 5 Light strong easy-to-build structure can add comments 52 Model Aviation Doc observes Jerry Broff man Sunduster real sleeperbut Ross Thomas woke up 83 SAM Champs ignition McCoy 60-powered example CG 70% chord Doc says files well Playboy hes seen Top surfaces silver MorioKote sure enough worked Construction Sunduster rather standard period fuselage built crutch triangular bottom rounded formers top familiar crutch constructionand may since technique seldom used modern constructionframework case /4 x /-in balsa built flat working surface bottom formers ad hered structure removed board upper formers stringers added advantage sort con struction absolutely true square framework results wing uses double spars /2 x 3/ hard front single /2 X /2 lower surface rear TE /2 x stock builds flat board though section undercambered x ing edge /4-in tips complete framework Poly-dihedral used sheet gussets both faces joints sheeting center section Broffman recommends silkspan wings Empennage -in outlines single spar ribs outlines block-sanded shape cant avoid noting similarity construction Sunduster Sal Taibis Pacer Scotty Murrys designs shouldnt sur prising members Brooklyn Skyscrapers time Free Flight readers Broffman trimmed design left turn right glide also states ship will need full power motor 1050 sq area Sunduster weighed Continued page 144 RGB HOBBY ENTERPRISES 0 2895 Derry Rd Toronto Ontario CANADA L4T 1A6 416-671-0851 ROSSI Engines $18500 $17500 $18000 $12000 $15000 65 RE wipipe 60 SE w/pipe 61 REw/pipe 15 Combat 15 Speed w/pipe Ross Parts accessories C Picco Glow Plugs140Rossie Glow Plugs$175 . _________________________ C LPRICESINCANADIANDOLLARS Russian Team Racing Specialist Full line MK products kits accessories Special Prices ROMAIR Products D 2 March 1984 53 R Williams Hammer Flamingo goes really well OS 60 4-stroke very first contest Williams entered placed RC Texaco PICCO Engines 60 SE w/pipe$13500 60 RE wlpipe$14500 45 SE w/pipe$8600 40 SE wlpipe$8500 40 Pylon w/pipe$11000 45 Pylon w/pipe$12000 Full line Picco parts accessories engines r CHIPOLLU Engines 25 Combat Special ABC & AAC $6000 25 Team Racing Diesel$25000 Glow Plugs$125 RC AerobaticsNan Putte Continued page 140 ably would better off avoided flying thunderstorms area As written cold weather just hit part Florida Yes know what frost like along Gulf Coast am about begin winter hibernation because dont like cold weather shiv ering flying field isnt idea fun So Ive given engines good shot rust preventative should keep good shape until its time wake next spring forgot winterize engines last fall its February read wouldnt hurt now Better late never comes winterizing engines could preclude having buy new bearings next spring Ron Van Putte 111 Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Soaring/Pruss Continued page 51 sport youre asking Whats Well radio dependable radiowhich hasnt scene few years still see popping up flying scene time time Good news still have need servicing Full ser vice replacement parts available Full Command Systems 908 E Rosewood Spokane WA 99208 new catalog tells Davey Systems Corporation folks have come up line-retriever really works Ted Davey has made Sail plane life simpler often-sought-after winch items winch drum usually stops do-it-yourselfers cold Ted has available drum has 5/s-in bore ideally suited Ford long-shaft startersa four-in center four-in spacing between eight-in -diameter plates goes $50 plus $3 shipping See DSCs ad issue Model Aviation winch retrieval systems HIGH QUALITY FOAM WING CORES AND CUSTOM FOAM CUTTING have large selection wing cores available stock meet modeling needs also specialize custom cutting reasonable prices like top quality products low prices fast service contact us next project information & p ces contac Ocean State Aeromode Eng nneer ng 21 Jaycee Dr West Warwick Rl 02893 OrcallRonaftar6OOpm -40 82888 3 Fec Feam its Beat Deal Best Stretched Sagitta Tommy Kallevang shows plane took him first place 1983 LSF Tournaments TwoMeter division Tom stretched Sagittas tail moment reconstructing fuselage sides Using 3/32-in balsa facing ner surfaces A2-in plywood fuselages full length Tom maintained nose sections wing former locations added 1 /2 between wing tail flies like charm Proof LSF Tournaments final standings Im winding down year thinking about 1984 Nats will Reno will year LSF regionals F3B team selection program will underway Get building have happy 1984 Dan Pruss 131 E Pennington Ln Plainfield IL 60544 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 53 52 oz Brown Jr 54 Den nymite 56 O&R 60 56 Super Cyclone Wing loading would figure about 85 oz/sq ft Jerry Broffman also published reduced size design September 1944 issue MAN Stratofly Starduster Although publication date would make Starduster SAM-legal strongly suspect some research could established developed flown 1942 reader knows whereabouts Jerry Broffman perhaps could confirm suspicion Broffman entered commercial end hobby postwar era Enter prise Model Aircraft number classic kits produced such McGoverns Pi rate Bob Tuckers Tuckette Interest ingly entered booming market 1950 36-in Free Flight design called Champion bears remarkable re semblance feature designonly windows brings up another interesting point although Starduster/Sunduster designs have no windows arent actually cabin designs force arrangement both models certainly unlike pylon design have ever seen SAM Contest Directors going facing dilemma some contestant walks up tries enter C Cabin what its worth Websters dictionarys definition cabin describes enclosure makes no mention windows portholes power Bob Lowe Mul dersdrift South Africa recently wrote quiring about power choices RC OldTimers reference specifically engines shown original drawings comparison contemporary power plants written piece about early columns perhaps others have become interested subject re cently also would have oppor tunity read column Basically SAM rules limit engine size 10 cu displacement per 225 sq wing total area Four-cycle power plants considered 60% glow dis placement pretty fair guideline except tremendous disparity exists power per displacement between engines As example consider Duke Foxs two 19s cross-flow version would pull 450 sq Old-Timer realistic calm manner other hand 19 BB Schnuerle unit would pull same model climb rates comparable FAT Power FF model As matter fact wing would jeopardy folding beefed up same comparisons apply engines nearly displacement So experience power choice related type flying interested low-key sport flying Schnuerle units need 300 350 sq per 10 cu displacement Fox BB better-suited 600-700 sq model example fire-breathing Schnuerle 40 would bestsuited 1200 1400 sq model sport role competition motivator means power better personal experience fourstrokers seems indicate 60% rule bit underestimate incred ible little jewels sport flying rec ommend using 70% factor cur rently flying model set up can switch 05 25 FSR 05 40 four-stroke model aerobatic 25 much stronger four-stroker Vertical performance 25 slug gish will vertical eights stroker Ouch Somehow crossed up roll film notes SAM Champs lead photo November 1983 issue certainly Garami Molecule fact So Long being launched good friend Bill Baker Norman OK Ill never live mistake down Another error popped up caption under Marion Knights electric model September 1983 column photos provided guest-writer Dick Haung Continued page 146 144 Model Aviation Winning Ideas FOUFIMOST E$ RETRACTABLE TOW HOOK RELEASE Price Simplest reliable device available After line released hook retracts body unit leaving SMOOTH surface bottom aircraft No special attachments required N eight 4 oz 0491051 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT REDUCES DRAG VIBRATION FREE PRICE $300 PRICE $630 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 144 misinterpreted information model Laurie Expenemental Zaic design Yearbook Frank tells us Marions may well first ever built since drew up teaser Finally captioned Bill Winter Citizen photo March 1983 column Citizen powered Mills 13 diesel Bill says ED Well looked like Mills errors aware Lord knows whate else weve done thing about us write sometimes wonder anyone reading work Man make mistake quickly learn youre being read Toys tools Weve using Bob Davis clever little hand drills wouldnt thing has bits inside screw-capped chamber sure helps keep track particularly handy device drilling holes inside con fined spaces pet use making holes servo screws Very useful tool Joe Utasi Jomar has speed-controller electric-powered units very useful feature two Most prominent over ride can used actuate relays low end relays can used short across motor windings through resistor act brake will stop prop using folding props Jomar SC-2 unit well-made very useful device wide-bladed Y&O props ignition runners seem prefer available Y&O Props PO Box 983 Walnut Grove CA 95680 phone 916-776-1371 also work well new four-strokers Got oddball mister always need photos unusual Old-Timer subjects can now use good-quality color prints slides send us picture two Flying Aces Dragon Fly Peerless Black Hawk etc Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued Daqe 55 George also sent size price list pre-cut basswood can supply Bass nice material Giant Scale little heav ier spruce same size can use slightly smaller sizes have same strength youre interested note George will get list George McGin nis 144 Murray Ave Goshen NY 10924 pros views Another letter lot interesting things came Bill Skip per Greeley CO Bill has pro fessional airshow pilot flying neat-looking bipe designed built himself has also RC modeler years parts letter interested latest comments October 1983 column concerning Ida Grove event ew pro airshows nine years being RC flier years tried have local RC demon strations during intermissions worked out rather well about mixing could take el meet model meet airshow airshow Bills background would have ex pected different reaction feels models full-sized birds mix about well custard onions just beginning letter went tell about modified Nosen Big Stik bird three years old has powered Q35 Q50 now Tartan ignition twin Among other things Bill mentioned has installed separate batteries receiver servos technique have advocated some time opinion best way keep servo/wiring glitches out re ceiver usually have aileron servos cables about three feet long Ive never problem Getting back Bills letter goes 40 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT IDEAL FOR QUICKY 500 OTHER FOURMOST PRODUCTS Fuel Fitting Sets Fuel Shut Off Fuel Manifold Gapless Hinges Gapless Hinge Slotter Strut Fairings Cockpit Coaming Send SASE Complete Information 4040 24th Ave Forest Grove OR 97116 CTS Phone 503 357-2732 Astounding reaiism plastics.. Very lignt weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete 1/6 Scale 1/4 Scale 1/3 Scale See Dealer add NYS Residents sad * Sales tax tssd x IMAA ntert FlvlngSdn Dollar direct order handling Sunday trainer fun fly con tests Yeuhi~th flight perform encel balsa consTruction See review April 83 RCM issue Engine 40.51 Wing Area 600 sqin Weight 5 lbs Radio 4 channel Special offer $4994 & $300 shipping CA res add 6% RICKS KITS PC Sex 1106 Santee CA 920716194493316
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/03
Page Numbers: 52, 53, 144, 146
Radio Control OLD- TIMER Dee B3 Mathews RESURGENCE satisfying aspects activities RC OldTimers Contributing Editor has see long-forgotten model designs reappear hands O-T enthusiasts prove themselves superior fliers planes have great deal elegance especially theyre flight Once someone rediscovers ancient goodies builds flies few SAM contests especially win see more appear flying fields can hope efforts direction have enabled others find greater enjoyment fine hobby Old-Timer month February 1980 Joe Percys version Mar quardt Riser Rider time design rarely seen SAM contestsnow course has established itself excel lent choice Another sleeper has Roger Hammer Flamingo Old-Timer Month July 1979 Rob Williams demon strated 1983 SAM Champs design just another pretty face superb competition ma chine Williams placed second Texaco first competition hed ever en tered Still another uncommon design excellent potential months featured OT Ross Thomas flew Sunduster powered ignition McCoy 60 impressed us model possessed screaming climb yet floats very slowly Ross used chrome MonoKote upper surfaces black bottom com bination markedly easier see air sun would flash off top turn black underside excellent overhead years have looung Jerry Broffmans Stratofly Sunduster construction article MAN August 1942 premonition po tential real winner Ross has proven hunch correct text construction article con tains some interesting comments such ship has designed extra wing area its size motor order proFrom MAN August 1942 Ia 9- crutch otts coil B K THE SUNDUS TER Designed byJERRYBROFMAN Wing Span 88 ins Wing Area sq ins Wing ChordI3ins Aspect Ratio67 tol 6 stringers L. ii ~LbattII Sc iiI_ NV Si ES 0924S500iS 55S mote excellent soaring qualities something essential contest ship other requirement climb achieve qualities ship designed corporate following features 1 long nose moment help hold its course 2 thin airfoil give speed climb less drag 3 completely cowled inverted motor streamlined light ef ficient fuselage reduce drag give fast climb 4 Large elevator surfaces pre vent stalling induce stability 5 Light strong easy-to-build structure can add comments 52 Model Aviation Doc observes Jerry Broff man Sunduster real sleeperbut Ross Thomas woke up 83 SAM Champs ignition McCoy 60-powered example CG 70% chord Doc says files well Playboy hes seen Top surfaces silver MorioKote sure enough worked Construction Sunduster rather standard period fuselage built crutch triangular bottom rounded formers top familiar crutch constructionand may since technique seldom used modern constructionframework case /4 x /-in balsa built flat working surface bottom formers ad hered structure removed board upper formers stringers added advantage sort con struction absolutely true square framework results wing uses double spars /2 x 3/ hard front single /2 X /2 lower surface rear TE /2 x stock builds flat board though section undercambered x ing edge /4-in tips complete framework Poly-dihedral used sheet gussets both faces joints sheeting center section Broffman recommends silkspan wings Empennage -in outlines single spar ribs outlines block-sanded shape cant avoid noting similarity construction Sunduster Sal Taibis Pacer Scotty Murrys designs shouldnt sur prising members Brooklyn Skyscrapers time Free Flight readers Broffman trimmed design left turn right glide also states ship will need full power motor 1050 sq area Sunduster weighed Continued page 144 RGB HOBBY ENTERPRISES 0 2895 Derry Rd Toronto Ontario CANADA L4T 1A6 416-671-0851 ROSSI Engines $18500 $17500 $18000 $12000 $15000 65 RE wipipe 60 SE w/pipe 61 REw/pipe 15 Combat 15 Speed w/pipe Ross Parts accessories C Picco Glow Plugs140Rossie Glow Plugs$175 . _________________________ C LPRICESINCANADIANDOLLARS Russian Team Racing Specialist Full line MK products kits accessories Special Prices ROMAIR Products D 2 March 1984 53 R Williams Hammer Flamingo goes really well OS 60 4-stroke very first contest Williams entered placed RC Texaco PICCO Engines 60 SE w/pipe$13500 60 RE wlpipe$14500 45 SE w/pipe$8600 40 SE wlpipe$8500 40 Pylon w/pipe$11000 45 Pylon w/pipe$12000 Full line Picco parts accessories engines r CHIPOLLU Engines 25 Combat Special ABC & AAC $6000 25 Team Racing Diesel$25000 Glow Plugs$125 RC AerobaticsNan Putte Continued page 140 ably would better off avoided flying thunderstorms area As written cold weather just hit part Florida Yes know what frost like along Gulf Coast am about begin winter hibernation because dont like cold weather shiv ering flying field isnt idea fun So Ive given engines good shot rust preventative should keep good shape until its time wake next spring forgot winterize engines last fall its February read wouldnt hurt now Better late never comes winterizing engines could preclude having buy new bearings next spring Ron Van Putte 111 Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Soaring/Pruss Continued page 51 sport youre asking Whats Well radio dependable radiowhich hasnt scene few years still see popping up flying scene time time Good news still have need servicing Full ser vice replacement parts available Full Command Systems 908 E Rosewood Spokane WA 99208 new catalog tells Davey Systems Corporation folks have come up line-retriever really works Ted Davey has made Sail plane life simpler often-sought-after winch items winch drum usually stops do-it-yourselfers cold Ted has available drum has 5/s-in bore ideally suited Ford long-shaft startersa four-in center four-in spacing between eight-in -diameter plates goes $50 plus $3 shipping See DSCs ad issue Model Aviation winch retrieval systems HIGH QUALITY FOAM WING CORES AND CUSTOM FOAM CUTTING have large selection wing cores available stock meet modeling needs also specialize custom cutting reasonable prices like top quality products low prices fast service contact us next project information & p ces contac Ocean State Aeromode Eng nneer ng 21 Jaycee Dr West Warwick Rl 02893 OrcallRonaftar6OOpm -40 82888 3 Fec Feam its Beat Deal Best Stretched Sagitta Tommy Kallevang shows plane took him first place 1983 LSF Tournaments TwoMeter division Tom stretched Sagittas tail moment reconstructing fuselage sides Using 3/32-in balsa facing ner surfaces A2-in plywood fuselages full length Tom maintained nose sections wing former locations added 1 /2 between wing tail flies like charm Proof LSF Tournaments final standings Im winding down year thinking about 1984 Nats will Reno will year LSF regionals F3B team selection program will underway Get building have happy 1984 Dan Pruss 131 E Pennington Ln Plainfield IL 60544 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 53 52 oz Brown Jr 54 Den nymite 56 O&R 60 56 Super Cyclone Wing loading would figure about 85 oz/sq ft Jerry Broffman also published reduced size design September 1944 issue MAN Stratofly Starduster Although publication date would make Starduster SAM-legal strongly suspect some research could established developed flown 1942 reader knows whereabouts Jerry Broffman perhaps could confirm suspicion Broffman entered commercial end hobby postwar era Enter prise Model Aircraft number classic kits produced such McGoverns Pi rate Bob Tuckers Tuckette Interest ingly entered booming market 1950 36-in Free Flight design called Champion bears remarkable re semblance feature designonly windows brings up another interesting point although Starduster/Sunduster designs have no windows arent actually cabin designs force arrangement both models certainly unlike pylon design have ever seen SAM Contest Directors going facing dilemma some contestant walks up tries enter C Cabin what its worth Websters dictionarys definition cabin describes enclosure makes no mention windows portholes power Bob Lowe Mul dersdrift South Africa recently wrote quiring about power choices RC OldTimers reference specifically engines shown original drawings comparison contemporary power plants written piece about early columns perhaps others have become interested subject re cently also would have oppor tunity read column Basically SAM rules limit engine size 10 cu displacement per 225 sq wing total area Four-cycle power plants considered 60% glow dis placement pretty fair guideline except tremendous disparity exists power per displacement between engines As example consider Duke Foxs two 19s cross-flow version would pull 450 sq Old-Timer realistic calm manner other hand 19 BB Schnuerle unit would pull same model climb rates comparable FAT Power FF model As matter fact wing would jeopardy folding beefed up same comparisons apply engines nearly displacement So experience power choice related type flying interested low-key sport flying Schnuerle units need 300 350 sq per 10 cu displacement Fox BB better-suited 600-700 sq model example fire-breathing Schnuerle 40 would bestsuited 1200 1400 sq model sport role competition motivator means power better personal experience fourstrokers seems indicate 60% rule bit underestimate incred ible little jewels sport flying rec ommend using 70% factor cur rently flying model set up can switch 05 25 FSR 05 40 four-stroke model aerobatic 25 much stronger four-stroker Vertical performance 25 slug gish will vertical eights stroker Ouch Somehow crossed up roll film notes SAM Champs lead photo November 1983 issue certainly Garami Molecule fact So Long being launched good friend Bill Baker Norman OK Ill never live mistake down Another error popped up caption under Marion Knights electric model September 1983 column photos provided guest-writer Dick Haung Continued page 146 144 Model Aviation Winning Ideas FOUFIMOST E$ RETRACTABLE TOW HOOK RELEASE Price Simplest reliable device available After line released hook retracts body unit leaving SMOOTH surface bottom aircraft No special attachments required N eight 4 oz 0491051 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT REDUCES DRAG VIBRATION FREE PRICE $300 PRICE $630 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 144 misinterpreted information model Laurie Expenemental Zaic design Yearbook Frank tells us Marions may well first ever built since drew up teaser Finally captioned Bill Winter Citizen photo March 1983 column Citizen powered Mills 13 diesel Bill says ED Well looked like Mills errors aware Lord knows whate else weve done thing about us write sometimes wonder anyone reading work Man make mistake quickly learn youre being read Toys tools Weve using Bob Davis clever little hand drills wouldnt thing has bits inside screw-capped chamber sure helps keep track particularly handy device drilling holes inside con fined spaces pet use making holes servo screws Very useful tool Joe Utasi Jomar has speed-controller electric-powered units very useful feature two Most prominent over ride can used actuate relays low end relays can used short across motor windings through resistor act brake will stop prop using folding props Jomar SC-2 unit well-made very useful device wide-bladed Y&O props ignition runners seem prefer available Y&O Props PO Box 983 Walnut Grove CA 95680 phone 916-776-1371 also work well new four-strokers Got oddball mister always need photos unusual Old-Timer subjects can now use good-quality color prints slides send us picture two Flying Aces Dragon Fly Peerless Black Hawk etc Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued Daqe 55 George also sent size price list pre-cut basswood can supply Bass nice material Giant Scale little heav ier spruce same size can use slightly smaller sizes have same strength youre interested note George will get list George McGin nis 144 Murray Ave Goshen NY 10924 pros views Another letter lot interesting things came Bill Skip per Greeley CO Bill has pro fessional airshow pilot flying neat-looking bipe designed built himself has also RC modeler years parts letter interested latest comments October 1983 column concerning Ida Grove event ew pro airshows nine years being RC flier years tried have local RC demon strations during intermissions worked out rather well about mixing could take el meet model meet airshow airshow Bills background would have ex pected different reaction feels models full-sized birds mix about well custard onions just beginning letter went tell about modified Nosen Big Stik bird three years old has powered Q35 Q50 now Tartan ignition twin Among other things Bill mentioned has installed separate batteries receiver servos technique have advocated some time opinion best way keep servo/wiring glitches out re ceiver usually have aileron servos cables about three feet long Ive never problem Getting back Bills letter goes 40 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT IDEAL FOR QUICKY 500 OTHER FOURMOST PRODUCTS Fuel Fitting Sets Fuel Shut Off Fuel Manifold Gapless Hinges Gapless Hinge Slotter Strut Fairings Cockpit Coaming Send SASE Complete Information 4040 24th Ave Forest Grove OR 97116 CTS Phone 503 357-2732 Astounding reaiism plastics.. Very lignt weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete 1/6 Scale 1/4 Scale 1/3 Scale See Dealer add NYS Residents sad * Sales tax tssd x IMAA ntert FlvlngSdn Dollar direct order handling Sunday trainer fun fly con tests Yeuhi~th flight perform encel balsa consTruction See review April 83 RCM issue Engine 40.51 Wing Area 600 sqin Weight 5 lbs Radio 4 channel Special offer $4994 & $300 shipping CA res add 6% RICKS KITS PC Sex 1106 Santee CA 920716194493316
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/03
Page Numbers: 52, 53, 144, 146
Radio Control OLD- TIMER Dee B3 Mathews RESURGENCE satisfying aspects activities RC OldTimers Contributing Editor has see long-forgotten model designs reappear hands O-T enthusiasts prove themselves superior fliers planes have great deal elegance especially theyre flight Once someone rediscovers ancient goodies builds flies few SAM contests especially win see more appear flying fields can hope efforts direction have enabled others find greater enjoyment fine hobby Old-Timer month February 1980 Joe Percys version Mar quardt Riser Rider time design rarely seen SAM contestsnow course has established itself excel lent choice Another sleeper has Roger Hammer Flamingo Old-Timer Month July 1979 Rob Williams demon strated 1983 SAM Champs design just another pretty face superb competition ma chine Williams placed second Texaco first competition hed ever en tered Still another uncommon design excellent potential months featured OT Ross Thomas flew Sunduster powered ignition McCoy 60 impressed us model possessed screaming climb yet floats very slowly Ross used chrome MonoKote upper surfaces black bottom com bination markedly easier see air sun would flash off top turn black underside excellent overhead years have looung Jerry Broffmans Stratofly Sunduster construction article MAN August 1942 premonition po tential real winner Ross has proven hunch correct text construction article con tains some interesting comments such ship has designed extra wing area its size motor order proFrom MAN August 1942 Ia 9- crutch otts coil B K THE SUNDUS TER Designed byJERRYBROFMAN Wing Span 88 ins Wing Area sq ins Wing ChordI3ins Aspect Ratio67 tol 6 stringers L. ii ~LbattII Sc iiI_ NV Si ES 0924S500iS 55S mote excellent soaring qualities something essential contest ship other requirement climb achieve qualities ship designed corporate following features 1 long nose moment help hold its course 2 thin airfoil give speed climb less drag 3 completely cowled inverted motor streamlined light ef ficient fuselage reduce drag give fast climb 4 Large elevator surfaces pre vent stalling induce stability 5 Light strong easy-to-build structure can add comments 52 Model Aviation Doc observes Jerry Broff man Sunduster real sleeperbut Ross Thomas woke up 83 SAM Champs ignition McCoy 60-powered example CG 70% chord Doc says files well Playboy hes seen Top surfaces silver MorioKote sure enough worked Construction Sunduster rather standard period fuselage built crutch triangular bottom rounded formers top familiar crutch constructionand may since technique seldom used modern constructionframework case /4 x /-in balsa built flat working surface bottom formers ad hered structure removed board upper formers stringers added advantage sort con struction absolutely true square framework results wing uses double spars /2 x 3/ hard front single /2 X /2 lower surface rear TE /2 x stock builds flat board though section undercambered x ing edge /4-in tips complete framework Poly-dihedral used sheet gussets both faces joints sheeting center section Broffman recommends silkspan wings Empennage -in outlines single spar ribs outlines block-sanded shape cant avoid noting similarity construction Sunduster Sal Taibis Pacer Scotty Murrys designs shouldnt sur prising members Brooklyn Skyscrapers time Free Flight readers Broffman trimmed design left turn right glide also states ship will need full power motor 1050 sq area Sunduster weighed Continued page 144 RGB HOBBY ENTERPRISES 0 2895 Derry Rd Toronto Ontario CANADA L4T 1A6 416-671-0851 ROSSI Engines $18500 $17500 $18000 $12000 $15000 65 RE wipipe 60 SE w/pipe 61 REw/pipe 15 Combat 15 Speed w/pipe Ross Parts accessories C Picco Glow Plugs140Rossie Glow Plugs$175 . _________________________ C LPRICESINCANADIANDOLLARS Russian Team Racing Specialist Full line MK products kits accessories Special Prices ROMAIR Products D 2 March 1984 53 R Williams Hammer Flamingo goes really well OS 60 4-stroke very first contest Williams entered placed RC Texaco PICCO Engines 60 SE w/pipe$13500 60 RE wlpipe$14500 45 SE w/pipe$8600 40 SE wlpipe$8500 40 Pylon w/pipe$11000 45 Pylon w/pipe$12000 Full line Picco parts accessories engines r CHIPOLLU Engines 25 Combat Special ABC & AAC $6000 25 Team Racing Diesel$25000 Glow Plugs$125 RC AerobaticsNan Putte Continued page 140 ably would better off avoided flying thunderstorms area As written cold weather just hit part Florida Yes know what frost like along Gulf Coast am about begin winter hibernation because dont like cold weather shiv ering flying field isnt idea fun So Ive given engines good shot rust preventative should keep good shape until its time wake next spring forgot winterize engines last fall its February read wouldnt hurt now Better late never comes winterizing engines could preclude having buy new bearings next spring Ron Van Putte 111 Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Soaring/Pruss Continued page 51 sport youre asking Whats Well radio dependable radiowhich hasnt scene few years still see popping up flying scene time time Good news still have need servicing Full ser vice replacement parts available Full Command Systems 908 E Rosewood Spokane WA 99208 new catalog tells Davey Systems Corporation folks have come up line-retriever really works Ted Davey has made Sail plane life simpler often-sought-after winch items winch drum usually stops do-it-yourselfers cold Ted has available drum has 5/s-in bore ideally suited Ford long-shaft startersa four-in center four-in spacing between eight-in -diameter plates goes $50 plus $3 shipping See DSCs ad issue Model Aviation winch retrieval systems HIGH QUALITY FOAM WING CORES AND CUSTOM FOAM CUTTING have large selection wing cores available stock meet modeling needs also specialize custom cutting reasonable prices like top quality products low prices fast service contact us next project information & p ces contac Ocean State Aeromode Eng nneer ng 21 Jaycee Dr West Warwick Rl 02893 OrcallRonaftar6OOpm -40 82888 3 Fec Feam its Beat Deal Best Stretched Sagitta Tommy Kallevang shows plane took him first place 1983 LSF Tournaments TwoMeter division Tom stretched Sagittas tail moment reconstructing fuselage sides Using 3/32-in balsa facing ner surfaces A2-in plywood fuselages full length Tom maintained nose sections wing former locations added 1 /2 between wing tail flies like charm Proof LSF Tournaments final standings Im winding down year thinking about 1984 Nats will Reno will year LSF regionals F3B team selection program will underway Get building have happy 1984 Dan Pruss 131 E Pennington Ln Plainfield IL 60544 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 53 52 oz Brown Jr 54 Den nymite 56 O&R 60 56 Super Cyclone Wing loading would figure about 85 oz/sq ft Jerry Broffman also published reduced size design September 1944 issue MAN Stratofly Starduster Although publication date would make Starduster SAM-legal strongly suspect some research could established developed flown 1942 reader knows whereabouts Jerry Broffman perhaps could confirm suspicion Broffman entered commercial end hobby postwar era Enter prise Model Aircraft number classic kits produced such McGoverns Pi rate Bob Tuckers Tuckette Interest ingly entered booming market 1950 36-in Free Flight design called Champion bears remarkable re semblance feature designonly windows brings up another interesting point although Starduster/Sunduster designs have no windows arent actually cabin designs force arrangement both models certainly unlike pylon design have ever seen SAM Contest Directors going facing dilemma some contestant walks up tries enter C Cabin what its worth Websters dictionarys definition cabin describes enclosure makes no mention windows portholes power Bob Lowe Mul dersdrift South Africa recently wrote quiring about power choices RC OldTimers reference specifically engines shown original drawings comparison contemporary power plants written piece about early columns perhaps others have become interested subject re cently also would have oppor tunity read column Basically SAM rules limit engine size 10 cu displacement per 225 sq wing total area Four-cycle power plants considered 60% glow dis placement pretty fair guideline except tremendous disparity exists power per displacement between engines As example consider Duke Foxs two 19s cross-flow version would pull 450 sq Old-Timer realistic calm manner other hand 19 BB Schnuerle unit would pull same model climb rates comparable FAT Power FF model As matter fact wing would jeopardy folding beefed up same comparisons apply engines nearly displacement So experience power choice related type flying interested low-key sport flying Schnuerle units need 300 350 sq per 10 cu displacement Fox BB better-suited 600-700 sq model example fire-breathing Schnuerle 40 would bestsuited 1200 1400 sq model sport role competition motivator means power better personal experience fourstrokers seems indicate 60% rule bit underestimate incred ible little jewels sport flying rec ommend using 70% factor cur rently flying model set up can switch 05 25 FSR 05 40 four-stroke model aerobatic 25 much stronger four-stroker Vertical performance 25 slug gish will vertical eights stroker Ouch Somehow crossed up roll film notes SAM Champs lead photo November 1983 issue certainly Garami Molecule fact So Long being launched good friend Bill Baker Norman OK Ill never live mistake down Another error popped up caption under Marion Knights electric model September 1983 column photos provided guest-writer Dick Haung Continued page 146 144 Model Aviation Winning Ideas FOUFIMOST E$ RETRACTABLE TOW HOOK RELEASE Price Simplest reliable device available After line released hook retracts body unit leaving SMOOTH surface bottom aircraft No special attachments required N eight 4 oz 0491051 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT REDUCES DRAG VIBRATION FREE PRICE $300 PRICE $630 RC Old-Timers/Mathews Continued page 144 misinterpreted information model Laurie Expenemental Zaic design Yearbook Frank tells us Marions may well first ever built since drew up teaser Finally captioned Bill Winter Citizen photo March 1983 column Citizen powered Mills 13 diesel Bill says ED Well looked like Mills errors aware Lord knows whate else weve done thing about us write sometimes wonder anyone reading work Man make mistake quickly learn youre being read Toys tools Weve using Bob Davis clever little hand drills wouldnt thing has bits inside screw-capped chamber sure helps keep track particularly handy device drilling holes inside con fined spaces pet use making holes servo screws Very useful tool Joe Utasi Jomar has speed-controller electric-powered units very useful feature two Most prominent over ride can used actuate relays low end relays can used short across motor windings through resistor act brake will stop prop using folding props Jomar SC-2 unit well-made very useful device wide-bladed Y&O props ignition runners seem prefer available Y&O Props PO Box 983 Walnut Grove CA 95680 phone 916-776-1371 also work well new four-strokers Got oddball mister always need photos unusual Old-Timer subjects can now use good-quality color prints slides send us picture two Flying Aces Dragon Fly Peerless Black Hawk etc Dee B Mathews 506 South Walnut Greensburg KS 67054 RC Giant Scale/Beckman Continued Daqe 55 George also sent size price list pre-cut basswood can supply Bass nice material Giant Scale little heav ier spruce same size can use slightly smaller sizes have same strength youre interested note George will get list George McGin nis 144 Murray Ave Goshen NY 10924 pros views Another letter lot interesting things came Bill Skip per Greeley CO Bill has pro fessional airshow pilot flying neat-looking bipe designed built himself has also RC modeler years parts letter interested latest comments October 1983 column concerning Ida Grove event ew pro airshows nine years being RC flier years tried have local RC demon strations during intermissions worked out rather well about mixing could take el meet model meet airshow airshow Bills background would have ex pected different reaction feels models full-sized birds mix about well custard onions just beginning letter went tell about modified Nosen Big Stik bird three years old has powered Q35 Q50 now Tartan ignition twin Among other things Bill mentioned has installed separate batteries receiver servos technique have advocated some time opinion best way keep servo/wiring glitches out re ceiver usually have aileron servos cables about three feet long Ive never problem Getting back Bills letter goes 40 AIRFLO ENGINE MOUNT IDEAL FOR QUICKY 500 OTHER FOURMOST PRODUCTS Fuel Fitting Sets Fuel Shut Off Fuel Manifold Gapless Hinges Gapless Hinge Slotter Strut Fairings Cockpit Coaming Send SASE Complete Information 4040 24th Ave Forest Grove OR 97116 CTS Phone 503 357-2732 Astounding reaiism plastics.. Very lignt weight discriminating hobbiest. Either Pilot version kit.. Sportsman Barnstormer.. Darn Good Airmen .. complete 1/6 Scale 1/4 Scale 1/3 Scale See Dealer add NYS Residents sad * Sales tax tssd x IMAA ntert FlvlngSdn Dollar direct order handling Sunday trainer fun fly con tests Yeuhi~th flight perform encel balsa consTruction See review April 83 RCM issue Engine 40.51 Wing Area 600 sqin Weight 5 lbs Radio 4 channel Special offer $4994 & $300 shipping CA res add 6% RICKS KITS PC Sex 1106 Santee CA 920716194493316