Radio Control: Old-Timers

BANISHED Yes month Ive eliminated Old-Timer Month feature order have space photos RC Scale Duration modelsa concept finally catching As mentioned January 1990 column two groups modelers opposite ends US promoting two totally different ap proaches toward flying Scale models climb and-glide mode group fliers Niagara Falls NY area promoting RCSD event planes using /2A power preliminary version rules January 90 column Theirs essen tially extension Texaco event pro moted SAM Society Antique Modelers fill up fuel tank planes Cox 049 brim start up launch climb high can steer around sky search lift keep up 15minute max no scale points static judging West Coast group primarily area fluence San Diego Aeroneers promoting unlimited RCSD concept allow size plane power plant prelimi nary rules developed Bob Munn summa rized follows Airplane Must recognizable representa tion man-carrying aircraft flown before De cember 31 1942 No documentation required unless aircraft rare unknown case photo three-view drawing should presented minimum power loading 300 sq wing area per 10 cu engine displace ment imposed Engine Any engine permitted however handicaps imposed based type power plant Two-cycle glow engines use 100% actual displacement Four-cycle engines use 80% actual displacement Glow engines converted ignition use 60% displacement engines originally made use ignition rated 50% actual displacement Electric motors 05 size 100 wattDoc re quire plane have minimum 600 sq wing area Interior detail None required Other No undercambered airfoils theyre scale Doc Scale judging CD two other contes tants form judging committee major ity vote rates aircraft present scale 10 best 1 Criteria used complexity use old-time materials construction molded foam ARF types severely downgraded surface detail craftsmanship etc scale point will counted 20 seconds duration added models longest flight Scoring Three attempts two official flights witb longest official flight count ing Engine runs 45 seconds 90 seconds Electrics Planes must ROG must land designated area Maximum flight 10 minutes Flyoffs ties occur after scale points added rules submitted starting point experimentation What think East Coast concept has no scale points could easily dominated ultralightly constructed Piper J-3 Cubs sort-of-could-be-might-be-almost-are Cubs can see ways West Coast Scale judg ing concept could easily applied Neither proposal makes compensatory ar rangements biplanes low-winged proto types however will very likely consider factors after few years development 50 Model Aviation Radio Control Old-Timers Dr DB Mathews 909 N Maize Rd Townhouse 734 Wichita KS 67212 Howard DGA built 1938 Paul Lindberg kit Dr Bob Maurer San Antonio TX Power plant Sky Chief know FF days Doc saddened cause hes photo rainy day file some timeand Dr Bob passed away re cently before right opportunity came along feature Well better now never three photos feature participants recent November 5 1989 San Diego Aeroneers first annual Old-Time Scale Model meet Alpine CA Photo left has Ernie Wrisley Taylor Cub E-2 built using plan 1936 Megow kit DC Merlin 047 diesel powers place twisted elastic bands RC has also added middle have Jim Baron electric-powered 57in.span Fokker D-VIII Earl Stahls plan appeared 1941 issue Model Airplane News An Astro 15 cobalt motor provided enough zip real fighter like performance Photo right features Leroy Brooks 7-ft-span DeHavilland Puss Moth 1935 plan drawn Pat Sweeney Chicagos Uptown Model Airplane Shop Power Merco 49 Models conform Unlimited RCSD rules photos Jim Alaback Bob Gordon Toronto Ontario Canada scratch-built French Farman 400 Wing area 302 sq weight 1608 oz 3rd Western New York SAM Champs should really done encourage wide variety eligible designs Additionally some going have come up definition what constitutes powered glider /2A rules mind prototype designed flown landed power off motor glider Since British Lympne-type ultralight aircraft have very large high-aspect-ratio wings definitely designed flown un der continuous power group could mother lode excellent choices includes such planes Bristol Brownie Supermarine Sparrow BEC Wren Halton Minus DH Hum mingbird etc Obviously US designs particularly using Continental A-40 power such Taylor E-2 Porterfield Zephyr etc us ing Bristol Cherub Aeronca converted auto motorcycle engines excellent either event Frankly potential choices just mind-boggling Sources During Fifties Sixties model magazines published literally hundreds Scale Free Flight designs eminently suitable either RCSD con cepts enlarged match todays powerful engines dont have model mag azine collection find someone does guar Continued page 52 Fourmost Flush Button Hatch Release _____________Springs Price $35 No 131 Flush Button constructed lie completely flu sh th surface hatch pro finish viding clean areodynamic Molded White device may painted match finish[ Fourmost Products Flush Button allows modeler easy access hatch compart ment just finger tip 4040 24TH AVENUE FOREST GROVE OR 97116 503 357-2732 OT BE COOL HSTAY COOL PERFECT SHADE AT THE FLYING FIELDTRACKOUT CAMPING OR AT THE LAKE OFFICIAL SHADE TENT AT 1987 RATS FOR H/C PATTERN JUDGES SHADE TENT AT 1988 RATS AT R/C PATTERN SITES FOR OFFICIALS HEADQUARTERS TENTS AND TRANSMITTER IMPOUNDS FORTAsSDAQCFSATVRE$ ROOMY No center pole nearly 7 tall COOL ---- Opaque heat reflecting canopy QUICK ERECTING ---- S Minuten 6c18 IIG8TJ4EIGHT ---- hell Weighs 6 1/2 pounds VISAWIND RESISTANT ---- holD Tested 48 MPH ADJII5TAB1E ---- Level tilted side ICNDABLE ---- Two three can joined MODEL Econcey 6018 SpurteNan 6clO DinIng 9018 Sportking 9R18 Mech Tote-Tarp 406 Trak-Lok-Eye Kit TAA2 Trak-Lok-Cyc Kit TAA3 rpRANsOOCOt8Ild rna-~-nen ORDERS DEALERS & DISTRIBUTHR CALLS El tears use Cr80 literature availaBle 8/Vs have oanopy track dN Coecacy products PRICE $3988 $488 UPS S4395 05488 UPS $1788e $488UPS $93580 $SSOUPS $ 795e $280UPS $1888 $288UPS $14500 $280UPS THE FOUR_N_COROAIiY 289 SW BUCY AVE BARTLESVILLEOK 74003 PH 9183369445 Adjustable side frames free-flow ventilation Extremely light weight added comfort Blocks harmful " ultraviolet radiation _____ Attractive case included Wraparound frame fits comfortably over prescription glasses ---. Quartz mist coated scratch resistance Made entirely Polycarbonate impact protection ANSI Z871 specifications Available in Clear shop work 81325 Amber overcast days & late afternoons S14~ Gray S14~ & Mirror $19~ sunny days CA Mask S15~ Paint Mask $2048 member club hit prop blade thrown 60 engine close range tip blade struck Safety Plus glasses saved him serious injury possibly loss eye incident convinced everyone should wear safety glasses near model airplane engines being run upEd Saul Secretary Treasurer ____________Pikes Peak RO Club Z Prices include shipping handling PLU5 See hobby dealer first doesnt have what need order direct SAFETY PLUS PO Box 1173 Dept iM Clinton MS 39056 ORDERS ONLY 0-842-7233 Cont US Mississippi 601 924-9640 IMC May 1990 51 photos depict RCSD planes built Eastern group close 1/2A4iZe RCSD concept Doc has pro moting several years Walter Law rence Newmarket Ontario Canada Curtiss Robin scaled up 330 sq Flyline Models kit plan won SAM 48 con test last October Photo Sandy Sharp Canadas Jack McGillivray shows off VsA Texaco Scale 1934 Taylor Cub took sec ond Western New York Sam Champs held August 13 1989 Photo Jack Brown cove 1-ROO-421-4626 4MCO PILOT GLASSES. HOW VALUABLE IS YOUR EYESIGHT NEW 4 ES 100 THP DESIGN TAILORED HELICAL PITCH DEVELOPEDTOGIVE MAXIMUM THRUST AT 4 CYCLE ENGINE RPM ALLTHE LATEST TECHNIQUES USED ON OUR PRO SERIES 3 SEE BELOW DIA PITCH TNP PRICE 1266778 136778 146778 1567 16678 NEW PRO SERIES 3 NEW HIGH TECH AIRFOIL SECTION 10T020% INCREASE IN THRUST MFGOFSELECTHARD MAPLE WOOD WILL NOT FATIGUE LIKE SYNTHETICS FUEL PROOF HIGH LUSTER FINISH DIAPITCH PRICE 534 634 72833456 8334568 845667 S4566/z77 104566/z7 106W8W 106EW 114677778 ii5W 116EW 1167 124W 125W 1256 1356 1456 1556 164N 16678 RC PYLON RACING SERIES 500 DIA PITCHPRICE 75N 5N SERIES 400C 866777 9777/a W WIDE BLADE EW EXTRA WIDE N NARROW antee theyll get excited remembering neat designs Mooney Lutz Dean Lind berg Silbavy Wright host others could also likely find old magazines major li brary Once find just cant resist der plans John Ponds huge catalogs Scale plans hes got two arranged A-K K-Z Before get deluged letters since refuses advertise magazine ad dress John Pond Old Time Plan Service 253 No 4th St PO Box 90310 San Jose CA 95109-3310 tel 1-408/292-3382Tuesday Friday Other sources having wondrous variety choices beautiful Rubber designs Stahl Struck Winter Srull others can modified easily fit size choose having blueprint/repro shop Xeroxtype copier enlarge/reduce capability en large good source plans OldTimer Model Supply PO Box 7334 Van Nuys CA 91409 sure consider large group suitable designs Aeromodeller plan list Get hands Argus Specialist Plans Handbook Bob Holman Plans PO Box 741-MA San Bernardino CA 92402 British have spe cial skill comes Free Flight Scale list illustrates 100 Although have undercambered airfoils just cant what Bob Munn means Several small Schoolyard Scale subjects have published last decade Several come mind quickly Taylor Cub Don Srull magazine February 1981 Plan No 326 $3SORMcM Superma rine Sparrow Flying Models others Im sure including own Taylor E-2 25/30 power RCM Once again dont lose sight fact design can enlarged reduced repro shop process often yields drawings wood dimensions close appropriate well As example /8-in strip usually comes out close /6 enlarged 40% also structurally correct Design parameters West Coast rules un limited RCSD pretty flexible plane can designed meet easily would caution u-in glow engine bit much 300-sq-in model other hand 450 squares 15 600 squares good 20 will yield good climb nice glide loaded 10 os/sq ft Structures can rela tively solid wing loading some good insight engineering take look Earl Stahl-designed Fokker D-8 Tayloreraft 0-57 Sydney Struhl Air Age Gas Models Model Airplane News 251 Danbury Rd Wilton CT 06897 Incidentally either designs would suitable unlimited event Also check Out Paul Lindberg designs Most will have dihedral needed RC /2A RCSD parameters exactly Texaco need pick subject develop drawings yield model 285-325 sq wing area study pub lished Texaco designs insight appropriate structure Three years ago developed RCSD Porterfield Zephyr after being hyped up what Id written subject Zephyr intended possible publication abandoned since required use microservosand much bet ter eyesight time Models 300 sq easy see theyre great height pilot has cataracts new plastic eyeballs can now see much bet ter however Kits Flyline Models makes two excel lent Megow-coupe Curtiss Robin Although theyre bit overstructured little lightening ought give excellent thermal ing abilities Microservos would required course West Coast-type unlimited RCSD event some kits come mind Porterfield Collegiate Astro-Flight Inc American Eaglet Leisure Electronics Both Electrics have obviously lightweight structures yet well stressed bound fly well markedly reduced weight resulting elimination 12 oz electric power system Only tiny bit rework would needed Also eliminating electric motor its power pack would let use standard-size servos RC gear course could leave Electrics fly RCSD category took pains build just light possible Now may startle Sigs 4-scale Piper J 3 Cub kit has RCSD potential lighten up properly kit reworked substitute laminated outlines wing tips tail surfac es multiple lightening holes used sheeting wing ribs lightweight ma terial used covering Cub would thermal just fine Im convinced could lightened 10 oz/sq ft powered 20-size twocycle produce darn good Duration Scale mod el might work some other open-frame RC Sport Scale designs An AMA event preceding rules evolving through SAM chaptersand SAM folks quite well attuned powered climb-andglide RC eventsI cant help speculating about possible attraction Scale Duration fly RC Glidersand perhaps Free Flighters boys flew Free Flight Scale years AMA contests person ally feel some attraction flying event dont have horrible fear darn thing going drift away thermal land some jungle irretrievably lost Let toss out what its worth Per haps some adventuresome Free Flight RC Glider group might want consider trying sim ilar event local contests Now before Free Flighters hire hit man please understand Im suggesting should put radios regular models Im suggesting might want try radios Scale models flown duration well subject static Scale judging sure ought attractive small-field situations Contest dates intention pub lish list known RCSD events scheduled 1990 however running out space addresses contact cop ies rules dates/locations contests Bob Munn 7945 Grape St La Mesa CA 92041 Jack Brown 1446 Red Jacket Rd Grand land NY 14072 Commercials In above copy mentioned sev eral times need lightweight covering new product have used fits bill bosh light weight strength Litespan available Charlies R/C Goodies 2828 Cochran St Suite 281 Simi Valley CA 93065 tel 1-805/5815061 comes both opaque semitranspar ent colors surface covered transparent material looks much like silk-and-dope several buddies flying site presumed Continued page 172 52 Model Aviation THE LEADER IN COMPETITION PROPELLERS 3 SPECIALISTS IN CUSTOM COX TEE DEE & REED ENGINES 020S 049S 051S 074S & 09S ALL CUS 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True confessions Normally use short captions photos dont write about subjects main part column ever month just have say few extra words about Howard DGA Bob Maurer have photo file sev eral years awaiting just right time use often since columns tend matic Bob Maurer built model Paul Lind berg kit 1938 Lindberg prolific de signer several magazines particularly Flying Aces popularity designs led Paul kit business shortand apparently unsuccessfultime Maurer powered Sky Chief cheap Dennymite never flew bad wasnt RCSD event back certainly would have reassuring know model wasnt going crash fly away Bob went medical school served US Army settling San Antonio after war 1946 two anesthesiologists long successful career followed Dr Maurer remained active modeling well loved San Antonio area generosity support local clubs sad part story Bob passed away before got around publishing pic ture memory shelter has erected club field Bob Maurer represents what makes hobby attractive involved supportive no interest national recognition desire fame just sim ply loved modeling modelers will missed us Vibration/Abbott Continued page 58 knew certain particular engine underbalanced overbalanced might possible reduce overall vibration installing unbalanced propeller ever thats probably practical approach take As long single-cylinder reciprocating engine remains predominant power plant model airplanes vibration will remain constant concern can best cope problem building solid airframe struc tures providing vibration isolation sensitive components such radios As technology improves vibration isolating en gine mounting seems very promising CL Avanti/Wuif Continued page 59 pIe does control configuration like Avanti Reading few articles airplane re assured could use same basic control system full-scale ship Avanti has unique three-surface design forward canard helps lift long nose fuselage placement wing far rear lifts main weight aircraft An other reason placing wing far back allow maximum 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BANISHED Yes month Ive eliminated Old-Timer Month feature order have space photos RC Scale Duration modelsa concept finally catching As mentioned January 1990 column two groups modelers opposite ends US promoting two totally different ap proaches toward flying Scale models climb and-glide mode group fliers Niagara Falls NY area promoting RCSD event planes using /2A power preliminary version rules January 90 column Theirs essen tially extension Texaco event pro moted SAM Society Antique Modelers fill up fuel tank planes Cox 049 brim start up launch climb high can steer around sky search lift keep up 15minute max no scale points static judging West Coast group primarily area fluence San Diego Aeroneers promoting unlimited RCSD concept allow size plane power plant prelimi nary rules developed Bob Munn summa rized follows Airplane Must recognizable representa tion man-carrying aircraft flown before De cember 31 1942 No documentation required unless aircraft rare unknown case photo three-view drawing should presented minimum power loading 300 sq wing area per 10 cu engine displace ment imposed Engine Any engine permitted however handicaps imposed based type power plant Two-cycle glow engines use 100% actual displacement Four-cycle engines use 80% actual displacement Glow engines converted ignition use 60% displacement engines originally made use ignition rated 50% actual displacement Electric motors 05 size 100 wattDoc re quire plane have minimum 600 sq wing area Interior detail None required Other No undercambered airfoils theyre scale Doc Scale judging CD two other contes tants form judging committee major ity vote rates aircraft present scale 10 best 1 Criteria used complexity use old-time materials construction molded foam ARF types severely downgraded surface detail craftsmanship etc scale point will counted 20 seconds duration added models longest flight Scoring Three attempts two official flights witb longest official flight count ing Engine runs 45 seconds 90 seconds Electrics Planes must ROG must land designated area Maximum flight 10 minutes Flyoffs ties occur after scale points added rules submitted starting point experimentation What think East Coast concept has no scale points could easily dominated ultralightly constructed Piper J-3 Cubs sort-of-could-be-might-be-almost-are Cubs can see ways West Coast Scale judg ing concept could easily applied Neither proposal makes compensatory ar rangements biplanes low-winged proto types however will very likely consider factors after few years development 50 Model Aviation Radio Control Old-Timers Dr DB Mathews 909 N Maize Rd Townhouse 734 Wichita KS 67212 Howard DGA built 1938 Paul Lindberg kit Dr Bob Maurer San Antonio TX Power plant Sky Chief know FF days Doc saddened cause hes photo rainy day file some timeand Dr Bob passed away re cently before right opportunity came along feature Well better now never three photos feature participants recent November 5 1989 San Diego Aeroneers first annual Old-Time Scale Model meet Alpine CA Photo left has Ernie Wrisley Taylor Cub E-2 built using plan 1936 Megow kit DC Merlin 047 diesel powers place twisted elastic bands RC has also added middle have Jim Baron electric-powered 57in.span Fokker D-VIII Earl Stahls plan appeared 1941 issue Model Airplane News An Astro 15 cobalt motor provided enough zip real fighter like performance Photo right features Leroy Brooks 7-ft-span DeHavilland Puss Moth 1935 plan drawn Pat Sweeney Chicagos Uptown Model Airplane Shop Power Merco 49 Models conform Unlimited RCSD rules photos Jim Alaback Bob Gordon Toronto Ontario Canada scratch-built French Farman 400 Wing area 302 sq weight 1608 oz 3rd Western New York SAM Champs should really done encourage wide variety eligible designs Additionally some going have come up definition what constitutes powered glider /2A rules mind prototype designed flown landed power off motor glider Since British Lympne-type ultralight aircraft have very large high-aspect-ratio wings definitely designed flown un der continuous power group could mother lode excellent choices includes such planes Bristol Brownie Supermarine Sparrow BEC Wren Halton Minus DH Hum mingbird etc Obviously US designs particularly using Continental A-40 power such Taylor E-2 Porterfield Zephyr etc us ing Bristol Cherub Aeronca converted auto motorcycle engines excellent either event Frankly potential choices just mind-boggling Sources During Fifties Sixties model magazines published literally hundreds Scale Free Flight designs eminently suitable either RCSD con cepts enlarged match todays powerful engines dont have model mag azine collection find someone does guar Continued page 52 Fourmost Flush Button Hatch Release _____________Springs Price $35 No 131 Flush Button constructed lie completely flu sh th surface hatch pro finish viding clean areodynamic Molded White device may painted match finish[ Fourmost Products Flush Button allows modeler easy access hatch compart ment just finger tip 4040 24TH AVENUE FOREST GROVE OR 97116 503 357-2732 OT BE COOL HSTAY COOL PERFECT SHADE AT THE FLYING FIELDTRACKOUT CAMPING OR AT THE LAKE OFFICIAL SHADE TENT AT 1987 RATS FOR H/C PATTERN JUDGES SHADE TENT AT 1988 RATS AT R/C PATTERN SITES FOR OFFICIALS HEADQUARTERS TENTS AND TRANSMITTER IMPOUNDS FORTAsSDAQCFSATVRE$ ROOMY No center pole nearly 7 tall COOL ---- Opaque heat reflecting canopy QUICK ERECTING ---- S Minuten 6c18 IIG8TJ4EIGHT ---- hell Weighs 6 1/2 pounds VISAWIND RESISTANT ---- holD Tested 48 MPH ADJII5TAB1E ---- Level tilted side ICNDABLE ---- Two three can joined MODEL Econcey 6018 SpurteNan 6clO DinIng 9018 Sportking 9R18 Mech Tote-Tarp 406 Trak-Lok-Eye Kit TAA2 Trak-Lok-Cyc Kit TAA3 rpRANsOOCOt8Ild rna-~-nen ORDERS DEALERS & DISTRIBUTHR CALLS El tears use Cr80 literature availaBle 8/Vs have oanopy track dN Coecacy products PRICE $3988 $488 UPS S4395 05488 UPS $1788e $488UPS $93580 $SSOUPS $ 795e $280UPS $1888 $288UPS $14500 $280UPS THE FOUR_N_COROAIiY 289 SW BUCY AVE BARTLESVILLEOK 74003 PH 9183369445 Adjustable side frames free-flow ventilation Extremely light weight added comfort Blocks harmful " ultraviolet radiation _____ Attractive case included Wraparound frame fits comfortably over prescription glasses ---. Quartz mist coated scratch resistance Made entirely Polycarbonate impact protection ANSI Z871 specifications Available in Clear shop work 81325 Amber overcast days & late afternoons S14~ Gray S14~ & Mirror $19~ sunny days CA Mask S15~ Paint Mask $2048 member club hit prop blade thrown 60 engine close range tip blade struck Safety Plus glasses saved him serious injury possibly loss eye incident convinced everyone should wear safety glasses near model airplane engines being run upEd Saul Secretary Treasurer ____________Pikes Peak RO Club Z Prices include shipping handling PLU5 See hobby dealer first doesnt have what need order direct SAFETY PLUS PO Box 1173 Dept iM Clinton MS 39056 ORDERS ONLY 0-842-7233 Cont US Mississippi 601 924-9640 IMC May 1990 51 photos depict RCSD planes built Eastern group close 1/2A4iZe RCSD concept Doc has pro moting several years Walter Law rence Newmarket Ontario Canada Curtiss Robin scaled up 330 sq Flyline Models kit plan won SAM 48 con test last October Photo Sandy Sharp Canadas Jack McGillivray shows off VsA Texaco Scale 1934 Taylor Cub took sec ond Western New York Sam Champs held August 13 1989 Photo Jack Brown cove 1-ROO-421-4626 4MCO PILOT GLASSES. HOW VALUABLE IS YOUR EYESIGHT NEW 4 ES 100 THP DESIGN TAILORED HELICAL PITCH DEVELOPEDTOGIVE MAXIMUM THRUST AT 4 CYCLE ENGINE RPM ALLTHE LATEST TECHNIQUES USED ON OUR PRO SERIES 3 SEE BELOW DIA PITCH TNP PRICE 1266778 136778 146778 1567 16678 NEW PRO SERIES 3 NEW HIGH TECH AIRFOIL SECTION 10T020% INCREASE IN THRUST MFGOFSELECTHARD MAPLE WOOD WILL NOT FATIGUE LIKE SYNTHETICS FUEL PROOF HIGH LUSTER FINISH DIAPITCH PRICE 534 634 72833456 8334568 845667 S4566/z77 104566/z7 106W8W 106EW 114677778 ii5W 116EW 1167 124W 125W 1256 1356 1456 1556 164N 16678 RC PYLON RACING SERIES 500 DIA PITCHPRICE 75N 5N SERIES 400C 866777 9777/a W WIDE BLADE EW EXTRA WIDE N NARROW antee theyll get excited remembering neat designs Mooney Lutz Dean Lind berg Silbavy Wright host others could also likely find old magazines major li brary Once find just cant resist der plans John Ponds huge catalogs Scale plans hes got two arranged A-K K-Z Before get deluged letters since refuses advertise magazine ad dress John Pond Old Time Plan Service 253 No 4th St PO Box 90310 San Jose CA 95109-3310 tel 1-408/292-3382Tuesday Friday Other sources having wondrous variety choices beautiful Rubber designs Stahl Struck Winter Srull others can modified easily fit size choose having blueprint/repro shop Xeroxtype copier enlarge/reduce capability en large good source plans OldTimer Model Supply PO Box 7334 Van Nuys CA 91409 sure consider large group suitable designs Aeromodeller plan list Get hands Argus Specialist Plans Handbook Bob Holman Plans PO Box 741-MA San Bernardino CA 92402 British have spe cial skill comes Free Flight Scale list illustrates 100 Although have undercambered airfoils just cant what Bob Munn means Several small Schoolyard Scale subjects have published last decade Several come mind quickly Taylor Cub Don Srull magazine February 1981 Plan No 326 $3SORMcM Superma rine Sparrow Flying Models others Im sure including own Taylor E-2 25/30 power RCM Once again dont lose sight fact design can enlarged reduced repro shop process often yields drawings wood dimensions close appropriate well As example /8-in strip usually comes out close /6 enlarged 40% also structurally correct Design parameters West Coast rules un limited RCSD pretty flexible plane can designed meet easily would caution u-in glow engine bit much 300-sq-in model other hand 450 squares 15 600 squares good 20 will yield good climb nice glide loaded 10 os/sq ft Structures can rela tively solid wing loading some good insight engineering take look Earl Stahl-designed Fokker D-8 Tayloreraft 0-57 Sydney Struhl Air Age Gas Models Model Airplane News 251 Danbury Rd Wilton CT 06897 Incidentally either designs would suitable unlimited event Also check Out Paul Lindberg designs Most will have dihedral needed RC /2A RCSD parameters exactly Texaco need pick subject develop drawings yield model 285-325 sq wing area study pub lished Texaco designs insight appropriate structure Three years ago developed RCSD Porterfield Zephyr after being hyped up what Id written subject Zephyr intended possible publication abandoned since required use microservosand much bet ter eyesight time Models 300 sq easy see theyre great height pilot has cataracts new plastic eyeballs can now see much bet ter however Kits Flyline Models makes two excel lent Megow-coupe Curtiss Robin Although theyre bit overstructured little lightening ought give excellent thermal ing abilities Microservos would required course West Coast-type unlimited RCSD event some kits come mind Porterfield Collegiate Astro-Flight Inc American Eaglet Leisure Electronics Both Electrics have obviously lightweight structures yet well stressed bound fly well markedly reduced weight resulting elimination 12 oz electric power system Only tiny bit rework would needed Also eliminating electric motor its power pack would let use standard-size servos RC gear course could leave Electrics fly RCSD category took pains build just light possible Now may startle Sigs 4-scale Piper J 3 Cub kit has RCSD potential lighten up properly kit reworked substitute laminated outlines wing tips tail surfac es multiple lightening holes used sheeting wing ribs lightweight ma terial used covering Cub would thermal just fine Im convinced could lightened 10 oz/sq ft powered 20-size twocycle produce darn good Duration Scale mod el might work some other open-frame RC Sport Scale designs An AMA event preceding rules evolving through SAM chaptersand SAM folks quite well attuned powered climb-andglide RC eventsI cant help speculating about possible attraction Scale Duration fly RC Glidersand perhaps Free Flighters boys flew Free Flight Scale years AMA contests person ally feel some attraction flying event dont have horrible fear darn thing going drift away thermal land some jungle irretrievably lost Let toss out what its worth Per haps some adventuresome Free Flight RC Glider group might want consider trying sim ilar event local contests Now before Free Flighters hire hit man please understand Im suggesting should put radios regular models Im suggesting might want try radios Scale models flown duration well subject static Scale judging sure ought attractive small-field situations Contest dates intention pub lish list known RCSD events scheduled 1990 however running out space addresses contact cop ies rules dates/locations contests Bob Munn 7945 Grape St La Mesa CA 92041 Jack Brown 1446 Red Jacket Rd Grand land NY 14072 Commercials In above copy mentioned sev eral times need lightweight covering new product have used fits bill bosh light weight strength Litespan available Charlies R/C Goodies 2828 Cochran St Suite 281 Simi Valley CA 93065 tel 1-805/5815061 comes both opaque semitranspar ent colors surface covered transparent material looks much like silk-and-dope several buddies flying site presumed Continued page 172 52 Model Aviation THE LEADER IN COMPETITION PROPELLERS 3 SPECIALISTS IN CUSTOM COX TEE DEE & REED ENGINES 020S 049S 051S 074S & 09S ALL CUS 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True confessions Normally use short captions photos dont write about subjects main part column ever month just have say few extra words about Howard DGA Bob Maurer have photo file sev eral years awaiting just right time use often since columns tend matic Bob Maurer built model Paul Lind berg kit 1938 Lindberg prolific de signer several magazines particularly Flying Aces popularity designs led Paul kit business shortand apparently unsuccessfultime Maurer powered Sky Chief cheap Dennymite never flew bad wasnt RCSD event back certainly would have reassuring know model wasnt going crash fly away Bob went medical school served US Army settling San Antonio after war 1946 two anesthesiologists long successful career followed Dr Maurer remained active modeling well loved San Antonio area generosity support local clubs sad part story Bob passed away before got around publishing pic ture memory shelter has erected club field Bob Maurer represents what makes hobby attractive involved supportive no interest national recognition desire fame just sim ply loved modeling modelers will missed us Vibration/Abbott Continued page 58 knew certain particular engine underbalanced overbalanced might possible reduce overall vibration installing unbalanced propeller ever thats probably practical approach take As long single-cylinder reciprocating engine remains predominant power plant model airplanes vibration will remain constant concern can best cope problem building solid airframe struc tures providing vibration isolation sensitive components such radios As technology improves vibration isolating en gine mounting seems very promising CL Avanti/Wuif Continued page 59 pIe does control configuration like Avanti Reading few articles airplane re assured could use same basic control system full-scale ship Avanti has unique three-surface design forward canard helps lift long nose fuselage placement wing far rear lifts main weight aircraft An other reason placing wing far back allow maximum length passenger cargo area interruption wing spars braces high stabilizer well Out path fuselage turbulence makes good bite clean air small canard flapped slow-speed flight landing doesnt act elevator Altogether singularly neat efficient package twin-engined business craft Corn 174 May 1990 173 NEW FAI TAN RUBBER 1/4 3116 1/8 3/32 1116- 042 thick 1 lb box- *1475 llncludes4oz Slick Lubel $1375 no lube k costa $17S1 10 lb box $11000 UPS Deliveredl PostpaId US v18 UPS Cal rae add 6% aslas tax Made USA Slow cure conalatant qualIty Ask FAI-TAN 89/90 catalog lists 100FF kital CROCKET HOOKS ADESYFAI SEND $150FAI Model Supply FOR CATALOG P0 Box 3557 Torrance CASOSlO ___ ELECTRONICS 900 Lucy Road ll Ml 48843 5462644 Wo sorvice makos RIO equipment utilizing state art electronics Spectrum Analyzer Precision Frequency Measuring equipment True 1991 Standards endorsed AMA & RCMA tho Transmitter Slicker Program FCC LicensedSpeed Controi RepairsQuality Service Transmitter Chocks Only includes 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