RaWo Control Sport & Aerobatics Ron Van Putte NEW RULES first two contests year have come gone Since compete Expert class maneuver schedule now different shorter yeaa two new maneuvers pattern After first two con tests can report Figure M / Rolls isnt tough Id feared Square Loop lot harder well expected Both no picnic strong winds discovered Square Loop requires lot finesse achieve square corners nice straight sides Perhaps observations col ored fact new airplane does such nice stall turns other Expert fliers also seemed mess up Square Loop reasonably well Figure M / Rolls Another observation made very few contests will able allow people fly AMA classes Pattern also compete FAT Turnaround pattern choose uniess ly about 30 fewer contestants reason just isnt enough time get sufficient rounds both con ventional pattern Turnaround 30 contestants Contrary early predictions Turnaround pro moters pattern takes least long fly conventional pattern Actual ly event takes about twice long conventional pattern because contests offer two flight lines AMA pattern line has shut down Turnaround flying Fortunately contest administrators two meets Ive attended realized potential time problem restricted competitors either standard AMA class Turn around classnot both Well probably see similar restrictions lot contests future positive side Turnaround fly ing reemergence Masterclass Pattern fliers dropped out Pattern flying philosophy seemed everyone starting scratch Turnaround good time get back sport Its nice see old-timers back flying Pattern again Turnaround pattern may produce new set specialists callers takes good caller able watch air plane read call sheet tell pilot next few maneuvers confusing both himself pilot already witnessed case caller burnout caller couldnt keep up pilot try remember maneuver 50 Model Aviation Fabulous new Pattern design Ivan Bouraler Latayette LA Inspired rekitting party boated Glide may poorbut should have plenty poweri BJ Meyer sent photo mystery pianehe photod Amarillo TX about 9 years ago doesnt kow what Ron thinks may Ted White Ei Gringo Can name Scott Stauffer Abbotatown PA ciaims paint job Dirty Birdy 60 resi bear color slide shows hard work worth effort Can believe first Pattern ship Lets hope flying skills soon match building skills sequence himself Perhaps memorization entire Turnaround pattern pilot foolproof method dont know large downgrades should flying out frame witnessed lot wide-angle flying no apparent downgrading Some Turnaround fliers have emphasized observers dont really see frame unless right up pilot judges Thats true unles judges severely downgrade flying out frame fliers will keep pushing turnarounds out until get penal ized Anyone has tried 4-Point Roll Two Rolls Opposite Direction wind blowing 15-20 mph knows tough stay frame Consequently fliers can should rewardedand vice versa cant Part reason mentioning emphasis keeping frame tight number different kinds airplanes saw two contests standard Pattern designs two-cycle engines special airplanes big four-cycle engines consensus conventional Pattern airplanes have advantage frame size enforced especially windy Turnaround pattern judges going have strong influence what will flown event Thats always true Pattern influence will stronger Turnaround pattern because emphasis proper frame size will have profound effect design Turnaround-pattern airplanes time decide what about Turn around pattern right now because Ive already heard some losers recent contests flew large four-cycle-pow ered airplanes talking about competing old conventional airplanes future contests Continued page 155 September 1984 51 Master-class flier Tommy Goison Baton Rouge LA helps out son Chad boys first Pattern contest L Scene Fiesta Five Fiags meet Pensacois FL Sam Leonard Orlando FL won FAi Turnaround pattern event Fiesta contest R fiying newly-imported Atlanta design Goiden Gate Hobbies Muffier icoks iike its Enya 90 12 four-stroker batteries rather adding nose weight 25% figure recommended RC Scale models avoid problems tailheaviness old Scale modelers bugaboo inadvertent snap-roll Changing incidence stabilizer will have some effect elevator travel re quirements tail-dragger airplane add bit extra up-elevator travel assure getting tail wheel down runway pretty three-point landing As airspeed diminishes near stall smooth landing elevator becomes progressively less effective full-stall landing Aeronca elevator uptravel 200 Since supposedly non aerobatic ship down-travel inconse quential aerobatic types airplane full-symmetrical airfoil use down up Tailspins also re quire substantial amount up-elevator snap rolls maneuvers 200 up travel may quite enough Since usually include spins ma neuver list performed regu larly K during flight training prefer provide adjustment elevator travel somewhere linkage cer tam sufficient travel K model enters slowly revolving spin com mand stops spinning delay instant controls neutralized Bob Dolly Wischer S-221 Lapham Peak Rd Delafield WI 53018 RC AerobaticslVan Putte Continued page 51 about change pace serious Pattern talk Ken Willard will pardon expression something Sunday fli er will understand appreciate Pre pare yourself fall off chair youre sitting following published RF Signal newsletter Isotopes R/C Model Club Owensboro KY edited Ron Epple Although credit ed believe Ron Epple wrote follow ing Building TipsAs lot al ready know am constantly being asked advice building flying large share World-class fliers have now decided share few secrets First open up box new kit turn upside down floor Dont worry pieces will go back in. larger box Find thickest deepest-pile carpet home examine hardware will enable improvise other-size screws bolts later Start building now Dont bother pin wing plans during construc tion method beginners sissies wing may move around lit tle itll okay Pour glue over wing way will sure joint secured Rememberglue cheaper new airplane plane has low wing dont drill holes blocks landing gear now can always after covered MonoKote patches add scale effect fuselageif box type use fine super glues around quickly build two left sides taking left sides apart can admire tenacity instant glues putting engine mount firewall dont bother measure centerline isnt important Dave Brown Hanno Prettner dont own measuring instruments such rule square incidence meter airplanes fly fairly decently because have whistles bells radios Go ahead cover fin stabilizer fuselage before gluing together modern adhesives have day can glue MonoKote Mono Kote smear some glue fin ish tell everyone gave plane weathered look Nows time drill holes engine mount usually just eyeball engine drill away Heres littleknown secretmost top builders fliers like myself never screw engine down right side several reasons position engine mount proceed drill A-in drill doesnt have room right side because dumb exhaust way Also muffler goes right side believe will provide enough weight hold engine down Anyway muffler place can see have side secured anyhow Set pilot figure table next plane Now glue canopy plane After sure epoxy has set up look over pilot still table Can see him smile Never repeat never fuel-proof thing you will violate Law Attrition fuel-proofing plane will eventually limp off somewhere can send check Hazel Sig another kit repeat fun process over again Happy building Isnt beautiful Despite humor vein truth showed through caught us things weve done wed just soon hadnt done doubt escaped unscathed Im going end column some real good ideas pub lished Talespins newsletter Aeromasters Model Alrplane Club Fred ericksburg VA edited Charles Rector authored follow ing Tricks TradeEpoxy glues great things have hap pened modeling recent years youd better doggone sure want something glued because after epoxy has hardened its glued forever really can soften epoxy heat Continued page 158 SAILPLANE LAUNCH EQUIPMENT FOR EVERY FIELD SPORTWINCH $225 qo * $300 QP * $35009 * $250 qp * * plu shipping source QUIET FLIGHT supplies histarts electric motors& reducers hatt er jes pa rachutes tow line drums accessories braided nylon line selected kitsthe PROPHET sailplane kit . VISA MASTERCARD bind EY fl EMS CORPORATION ONE WOOD LANEMALVERNPA19355 21S644-06926772 Write call information September 1984 155 C btteo ,ot incluied P OWR TOW C hattsiy inc1d R ZOOM RETRIEVER RC AerobatlcslVan Putt Continued page 155 separate glue joints Use heat gun blow hot air joint use chisel knife scrape heated epoxy away wood careful use heat gun scraping tools epoxy joint can opened virtually epoxy removed so-called five minute epoxies little tougher break down because tend form gummy mess heated Dont waste time heating polyester resinsit doesnt work As chemicals avoid breathing fumes epoxy work open area lots ventilation lot people coat inside tank compartment airplanes epoxy protect wood fuel leak age Usually epoxy too thick spread well often end up lumpy mess two ways around problem can thin epoxy alcohol lacquer thinner brush thinned epoxy surface can warm glue will reduce its vis cosity allow brushed Dont use good brushes Instead buy acid brushes hardware store throw away after use Good ideas way heated epoxy cures faster dont waste time Ron Van Putte Ill Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Old-TimerslMathews Continued page 53 set kit plans Joe did donate however 1938 Cloudster kit Recently Joe has built RC version design displayed La Junta last summer writer sali vated over poor thing begged Joe set blue lines has obliged share three-view form Cloudster Mk 11938 version bears virtually no resemblance its younger sister airfoil flat-bottomed stab flat fuselage much wider just differences dont show clearly photos older version also has multi-piece undercarriage stab inset fuselage glaringly apparent does have leading edge notch much trademark Mk II version net result must careful identifying Cloudsters reason have arbitrarily tacked Mk Mk II designa tions much someone else has done two Comet Clipper versions Some readers likely turned Mk going want plans Wed suspect annual member ship Joe Wagners Fun Flyers few dollars printing costs would get set Contact Joe Wagner Fun Flyers PO Box 94 Volant PA 16156 information membership new organization non-competition modelers worth having plans youre aware Fun Flyers concept should Products Old Timer first started writing column January 1977 sources kits supplies etc few far between ensuing years virtual explosion interest OldTimers has led many manufac turers marketing products aimed needs Now some major com panies introducing kits etc us see excellent measurement what Old-Timer idea has offer Obviously having fun would growing fast Since products manufacturers now available have unable keep up reporting Suffice say check ads various magazines SAM Speaks Perhaps astonishing develop ment has engines Suddenly can buy reproductions Forsters wicks Megows Super Cyclones Simplex etc Would believe repro famous Deezil available Australia responding ads Model via tion tell saw Another chapter Started Models previous columns Ive tried highlight modeling background several famous people commercial world Dr Paul MacCready Roy Mar quardt Roger Hammer others have mentioned Now lets add Burt Rutan dont know Burt youve never heard VariViggen Van EZ LongEZ Defender outof-the-rut canard-configuration designs Rutans genius mention new Beech Aircraft twin-pusher turbo prop canard Burt recognized around world preeminent expert canard aero dynamics has repeatedly demonstrat ed much-improved speed stability configuration much several aircraft concerns about release similar designs former National Champion very active modeler both Free Flight CL late 1950s like think some what learned shows now As example. remember Hobby Poxy EZ Does technique foam mold covered Dynel fabric epoxy glue Consider Burt Rutan also fellow pioneered composite construction homebuilts hottest thing aircraft indus try today composite structure airframe components Composites mixtures high-strength plastics such epoxy covering mixed layers fiberglass carbon fibers Im sure other people have instrumental de HObbY Horn Win9 Span--789 Wng Area--tOO Sq z JVW SENSOAR glider HOBBY HORN Esclusisel HOBBY HORN Kit SENSOAR Glider kit high qoality kit Machine cut sanded parts Select quality balsa spruce Oetailed plans written instructions THERMAL SLOPE 55 ELECTRIC POWER VALUE PRICED 51600 RflS tull Partial Ksto P & W Semi-Kits Combined full slripwood plan Now md Wire Window etc Mat fNote may purchased just os semikits planswrite call prices 1930 Buecaneer-84-8St 1938 Clipper MR l-72-$39 1837 Oellalre Sptser198$61 1940 Ranger46 $27 1939 Mercury72S56 1935 Miss Amerlca84-959 1941 Playboy Jr54929 1941 Ptayboy Sr80$46 1938 Power Hoaae84--S43 1949 Sailplane-YB-- $74 1940 So LongSO$28 1938 Trenton Terror-72S32 1939 Zlpper54949 1939 Korda Wakefleld44 $17 MIDWAY MODEL GO 3emt-klts CsmbneO w/olrtp 1936 FlyIng Quaker84-949 1937 Quaker Flash-OT539 1937 Long Cahin78-042 1937 Air Chief-01940 BYRUCKS 1940 79 Span 831 Sq aa SEMIKIT Plan lncl-S3300 NUW mI Sr Cowbo Pull Kit $9309 3CALPLANS fld ORAWINOS SIS HEINKEL HEbOO 62 60s $1000 onsrrdANDhsu 64 Page C Up $800 odd $110 $200 PP/Iso Clsos $801 $2000 odd $225 copy will sent $2001 $4500 odd $300 free--when requested$4501 $7009 odd $350 order over $7000 add $400 BBY HORN CA Addressees odd 6% tox 55hobby specialties5 Send MO Visa/MC#Exp15173 Moran Street [Al Check allow up 30 Box 2212 days cheek clearonceWestminster Ca 92683 CODExsct Charges 8938311 Mdl Cssh Onlv[AII UPS 4 8951203 158 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/09
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 158
RaWo Control Sport & Aerobatics Ron Van Putte NEW RULES first two contests year have come gone Since compete Expert class maneuver schedule now different shorter yeaa two new maneuvers pattern After first two con tests can report Figure M / Rolls isnt tough Id feared Square Loop lot harder well expected Both no picnic strong winds discovered Square Loop requires lot finesse achieve square corners nice straight sides Perhaps observations col ored fact new airplane does such nice stall turns other Expert fliers also seemed mess up Square Loop reasonably well Figure M / Rolls Another observation made very few contests will able allow people fly AMA classes Pattern also compete FAT Turnaround pattern choose uniess ly about 30 fewer contestants reason just isnt enough time get sufficient rounds both con ventional pattern Turnaround 30 contestants Contrary early predictions Turnaround pro moters pattern takes least long fly conventional pattern Actual ly event takes about twice long conventional pattern because contests offer two flight lines AMA pattern line has shut down Turnaround flying Fortunately contest administrators two meets Ive attended realized potential time problem restricted competitors either standard AMA class Turn around classnot both Well probably see similar restrictions lot contests future positive side Turnaround fly ing reemergence Masterclass Pattern fliers dropped out Pattern flying philosophy seemed everyone starting scratch Turnaround good time get back sport Its nice see old-timers back flying Pattern again Turnaround pattern may produce new set specialists callers takes good caller able watch air plane read call sheet tell pilot next few maneuvers confusing both himself pilot already witnessed case caller burnout caller couldnt keep up pilot try remember maneuver 50 Model Aviation Fabulous new Pattern design Ivan Bouraler Latayette LA Inspired rekitting party boated Glide may poorbut should have plenty poweri BJ Meyer sent photo mystery pianehe photod Amarillo TX about 9 years ago doesnt kow what Ron thinks may Ted White Ei Gringo Can name Scott Stauffer Abbotatown PA ciaims paint job Dirty Birdy 60 resi bear color slide shows hard work worth effort Can believe first Pattern ship Lets hope flying skills soon match building skills sequence himself Perhaps memorization entire Turnaround pattern pilot foolproof method dont know large downgrades should flying out frame witnessed lot wide-angle flying no apparent downgrading Some Turnaround fliers have emphasized observers dont really see frame unless right up pilot judges Thats true unles judges severely downgrade flying out frame fliers will keep pushing turnarounds out until get penal ized Anyone has tried 4-Point Roll Two Rolls Opposite Direction wind blowing 15-20 mph knows tough stay frame Consequently fliers can should rewardedand vice versa cant Part reason mentioning emphasis keeping frame tight number different kinds airplanes saw two contests standard Pattern designs two-cycle engines special airplanes big four-cycle engines consensus conventional Pattern airplanes have advantage frame size enforced especially windy Turnaround pattern judges going have strong influence what will flown event Thats always true Pattern influence will stronger Turnaround pattern because emphasis proper frame size will have profound effect design Turnaround-pattern airplanes time decide what about Turn around pattern right now because Ive already heard some losers recent contests flew large four-cycle-pow ered airplanes talking about competing old conventional airplanes future contests Continued page 155 September 1984 51 Master-class flier Tommy Goison Baton Rouge LA helps out son Chad boys first Pattern contest L Scene Fiesta Five Fiags meet Pensacois FL Sam Leonard Orlando FL won FAi Turnaround pattern event Fiesta contest R fiying newly-imported Atlanta design Goiden Gate Hobbies Muffier icoks iike its Enya 90 12 four-stroker batteries rather adding nose weight 25% figure recommended RC Scale models avoid problems tailheaviness old Scale modelers bugaboo inadvertent snap-roll Changing incidence stabilizer will have some effect elevator travel re quirements tail-dragger airplane add bit extra up-elevator travel assure getting tail wheel down runway pretty three-point landing As airspeed diminishes near stall smooth landing elevator becomes progressively less effective full-stall landing Aeronca elevator uptravel 200 Since supposedly non aerobatic ship down-travel inconse quential aerobatic types airplane full-symmetrical airfoil use down up Tailspins also re quire substantial amount up-elevator snap rolls maneuvers 200 up travel may quite enough Since usually include spins ma neuver list performed regu larly K during flight training prefer provide adjustment elevator travel somewhere linkage cer tam sufficient travel K model enters slowly revolving spin com mand stops spinning delay instant controls neutralized Bob Dolly Wischer S-221 Lapham Peak Rd Delafield WI 53018 RC AerobaticslVan Putte Continued page 51 about change pace serious Pattern talk Ken Willard will pardon expression something Sunday fli er will understand appreciate Pre pare yourself fall off chair youre sitting following published RF Signal newsletter Isotopes R/C Model Club Owensboro KY edited Ron Epple Although credit ed believe Ron Epple wrote follow ing Building TipsAs lot al ready know am constantly being asked advice building flying large share World-class fliers have now decided share few secrets First open up box new kit turn upside down floor Dont worry pieces will go back in. larger box Find thickest deepest-pile carpet home examine hardware will enable improvise other-size screws bolts later Start building now Dont bother pin wing plans during construc tion method beginners sissies wing may move around lit tle itll okay Pour glue over wing way will sure joint secured Rememberglue cheaper new airplane plane has low wing dont drill holes blocks landing gear now can always after covered MonoKote patches add scale effect fuselageif box type use fine super glues around quickly build two left sides taking left sides apart can admire tenacity instant glues putting engine mount firewall dont bother measure centerline isnt important Dave Brown Hanno Prettner dont own measuring instruments such rule square incidence meter airplanes fly fairly decently because have whistles bells radios Go ahead cover fin stabilizer fuselage before gluing together modern adhesives have day can glue MonoKote Mono Kote smear some glue fin ish tell everyone gave plane weathered look Nows time drill holes engine mount usually just eyeball engine drill away Heres littleknown secretmost top builders fliers like myself never screw engine down right side several reasons position engine mount proceed drill A-in drill doesnt have room right side because dumb exhaust way Also muffler goes right side believe will provide enough weight hold engine down Anyway muffler place can see have side secured anyhow Set pilot figure table next plane Now glue canopy plane After sure epoxy has set up look over pilot still table Can see him smile Never repeat never fuel-proof thing you will violate Law Attrition fuel-proofing plane will eventually limp off somewhere can send check Hazel Sig another kit repeat fun process over again Happy building Isnt beautiful Despite humor vein truth showed through caught us things weve done wed just soon hadnt done doubt escaped unscathed Im going end column some real good ideas pub lished Talespins newsletter Aeromasters Model Alrplane Club Fred ericksburg VA edited Charles Rector authored follow ing Tricks TradeEpoxy glues great things have hap pened modeling recent years youd better doggone sure want something glued because after epoxy has hardened its glued forever really can soften epoxy heat Continued page 158 SAILPLANE LAUNCH EQUIPMENT FOR EVERY FIELD SPORTWINCH $225 qo * $300 QP * $35009 * $250 qp * * plu shipping source QUIET FLIGHT supplies histarts electric motors& reducers hatt er jes pa rachutes tow line drums accessories braided nylon line selected kitsthe PROPHET sailplane kit . VISA MASTERCARD bind EY fl EMS CORPORATION ONE WOOD LANEMALVERNPA19355 21S644-06926772 Write call information September 1984 155 C btteo ,ot incluied P OWR TOW C hattsiy inc1d R ZOOM RETRIEVER RC AerobatlcslVan Putt Continued page 155 separate glue joints Use heat gun blow hot air joint use chisel knife scrape heated epoxy away wood careful use heat gun scraping tools epoxy joint can opened virtually epoxy removed so-called five minute epoxies little tougher break down because tend form gummy mess heated Dont waste time heating polyester resinsit doesnt work As chemicals avoid breathing fumes epoxy work open area lots ventilation lot people coat inside tank compartment airplanes epoxy protect wood fuel leak age Usually epoxy too thick spread well often end up lumpy mess two ways around problem can thin epoxy alcohol lacquer thinner brush thinned epoxy surface can warm glue will reduce its vis cosity allow brushed Dont use good brushes Instead buy acid brushes hardware store throw away after use Good ideas way heated epoxy cures faster dont waste time Ron Van Putte Ill Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Old-TimerslMathews Continued page 53 set kit plans Joe did donate however 1938 Cloudster kit Recently Joe has built RC version design displayed La Junta last summer writer sali vated over poor thing begged Joe set blue lines has obliged share three-view form Cloudster Mk 11938 version bears virtually no resemblance its younger sister airfoil flat-bottomed stab flat fuselage much wider just differences dont show clearly photos older version also has multi-piece undercarriage stab inset fuselage glaringly apparent does have leading edge notch much trademark Mk II version net result must careful identifying Cloudsters reason have arbitrarily tacked Mk Mk II designa tions much someone else has done two Comet Clipper versions Some readers likely turned Mk going want plans Wed suspect annual member ship Joe Wagners Fun Flyers few dollars printing costs would get set Contact Joe Wagner Fun Flyers PO Box 94 Volant PA 16156 information membership new organization non-competition modelers worth having plans youre aware Fun Flyers concept should Products Old Timer first started writing column January 1977 sources kits supplies etc few far between ensuing years virtual explosion interest OldTimers has led many manufac turers marketing products aimed needs Now some major com panies introducing kits etc us see excellent measurement what Old-Timer idea has offer Obviously having fun would growing fast Since products manufacturers now available have unable keep up reporting Suffice say check ads various magazines SAM Speaks Perhaps astonishing develop ment has engines Suddenly can buy reproductions Forsters wicks Megows Super Cyclones Simplex etc Would believe repro famous Deezil available Australia responding ads Model via tion tell saw Another chapter Started Models previous columns Ive tried highlight modeling background several famous people commercial world Dr Paul MacCready Roy Mar quardt Roger Hammer others have mentioned Now lets add Burt Rutan dont know Burt youve never heard VariViggen Van EZ LongEZ Defender outof-the-rut canard-configuration designs Rutans genius mention new Beech Aircraft twin-pusher turbo prop canard Burt recognized around world preeminent expert canard aero dynamics has repeatedly demonstrat ed much-improved speed stability configuration much several aircraft concerns about release similar designs former National Champion very active modeler both Free Flight CL late 1950s like think some what learned shows now As example. remember Hobby Poxy EZ Does technique foam mold covered Dynel fabric epoxy glue Consider Burt Rutan also fellow pioneered composite construction homebuilts hottest thing aircraft indus try today composite structure airframe components Composites mixtures high-strength plastics such epoxy covering mixed layers fiberglass carbon fibers Im sure other people have instrumental de HObbY Horn Win9 Span--789 Wng Area--tOO Sq z JVW SENSOAR glider HOBBY HORN Esclusisel HOBBY HORN Kit SENSOAR Glider kit high qoality kit Machine cut sanded parts Select quality balsa spruce Oetailed plans written instructions THERMAL SLOPE 55 ELECTRIC POWER VALUE PRICED 51600 RflS tull Partial Ksto P & W Semi-Kits Combined full slripwood plan Now md Wire Window etc Mat fNote may purchased just os semikits planswrite call prices 1930 Buecaneer-84-8St 1938 Clipper MR l-72-$39 1837 Oellalre Sptser198$61 1940 Ranger46 $27 1939 Mercury72S56 1935 Miss Amerlca84-959 1941 Playboy Jr54929 1941 Ptayboy Sr80$46 1938 Power Hoaae84--S43 1949 Sailplane-YB-- $74 1940 So LongSO$28 1938 Trenton Terror-72S32 1939 Zlpper54949 1939 Korda Wakefleld44 $17 MIDWAY MODEL GO 3emt-klts CsmbneO w/olrtp 1936 FlyIng Quaker84-949 1937 Quaker Flash-OT539 1937 Long Cahin78-042 1937 Air Chief-01940 BYRUCKS 1940 79 Span 831 Sq aa SEMIKIT Plan lncl-S3300 NUW mI Sr Cowbo Pull Kit $9309 3CALPLANS fld ORAWINOS SIS HEINKEL HEbOO 62 60s $1000 onsrrdANDhsu 64 Page C Up $800 odd $110 $200 PP/Iso Clsos $801 $2000 odd $225 copy will sent $2001 $4500 odd $300 free--when requested$4501 $7009 odd $350 order over $7000 add $400 BBY HORN CA Addressees odd 6% tox 55hobby specialties5 Send MO Visa/MC#Exp15173 Moran Street [Al Check allow up 30 Box 2212 days cheek clearonceWestminster Ca 92683 CODExsct Charges 8938311 Mdl Cssh Onlv[AII UPS 4 8951203 158 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/09
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 158
RaWo Control Sport & Aerobatics Ron Van Putte NEW RULES first two contests year have come gone Since compete Expert class maneuver schedule now different shorter yeaa two new maneuvers pattern After first two con tests can report Figure M / Rolls isnt tough Id feared Square Loop lot harder well expected Both no picnic strong winds discovered Square Loop requires lot finesse achieve square corners nice straight sides Perhaps observations col ored fact new airplane does such nice stall turns other Expert fliers also seemed mess up Square Loop reasonably well Figure M / Rolls Another observation made very few contests will able allow people fly AMA classes Pattern also compete FAT Turnaround pattern choose uniess ly about 30 fewer contestants reason just isnt enough time get sufficient rounds both con ventional pattern Turnaround 30 contestants Contrary early predictions Turnaround pro moters pattern takes least long fly conventional pattern Actual ly event takes about twice long conventional pattern because contests offer two flight lines AMA pattern line has shut down Turnaround flying Fortunately contest administrators two meets Ive attended realized potential time problem restricted competitors either standard AMA class Turn around classnot both Well probably see similar restrictions lot contests future positive side Turnaround fly ing reemergence Masterclass Pattern fliers dropped out Pattern flying philosophy seemed everyone starting scratch Turnaround good time get back sport Its nice see old-timers back flying Pattern again Turnaround pattern may produce new set specialists callers takes good caller able watch air plane read call sheet tell pilot next few maneuvers confusing both himself pilot already witnessed case caller burnout caller couldnt keep up pilot try remember maneuver 50 Model Aviation Fabulous new Pattern design Ivan Bouraler Latayette LA Inspired rekitting party boated Glide may poorbut should have plenty poweri BJ Meyer sent photo mystery pianehe photod Amarillo TX about 9 years ago doesnt kow what Ron thinks may Ted White Ei Gringo Can name Scott Stauffer Abbotatown PA ciaims paint job Dirty Birdy 60 resi bear color slide shows hard work worth effort Can believe first Pattern ship Lets hope flying skills soon match building skills sequence himself Perhaps memorization entire Turnaround pattern pilot foolproof method dont know large downgrades should flying out frame witnessed lot wide-angle flying no apparent downgrading Some Turnaround fliers have emphasized observers dont really see frame unless right up pilot judges Thats true unles judges severely downgrade flying out frame fliers will keep pushing turnarounds out until get penal ized Anyone has tried 4-Point Roll Two Rolls Opposite Direction wind blowing 15-20 mph knows tough stay frame Consequently fliers can should rewardedand vice versa cant Part reason mentioning emphasis keeping frame tight number different kinds airplanes saw two contests standard Pattern designs two-cycle engines special airplanes big four-cycle engines consensus conventional Pattern airplanes have advantage frame size enforced especially windy Turnaround pattern judges going have strong influence what will flown event Thats always true Pattern influence will stronger Turnaround pattern because emphasis proper frame size will have profound effect design Turnaround-pattern airplanes time decide what about Turn around pattern right now because Ive already heard some losers recent contests flew large four-cycle-pow ered airplanes talking about competing old conventional airplanes future contests Continued page 155 September 1984 51 Master-class flier Tommy Goison Baton Rouge LA helps out son Chad boys first Pattern contest L Scene Fiesta Five Fiags meet Pensacois FL Sam Leonard Orlando FL won FAi Turnaround pattern event Fiesta contest R fiying newly-imported Atlanta design Goiden Gate Hobbies Muffier icoks iike its Enya 90 12 four-stroker batteries rather adding nose weight 25% figure recommended RC Scale models avoid problems tailheaviness old Scale modelers bugaboo inadvertent snap-roll Changing incidence stabilizer will have some effect elevator travel re quirements tail-dragger airplane add bit extra up-elevator travel assure getting tail wheel down runway pretty three-point landing As airspeed diminishes near stall smooth landing elevator becomes progressively less effective full-stall landing Aeronca elevator uptravel 200 Since supposedly non aerobatic ship down-travel inconse quential aerobatic types airplane full-symmetrical airfoil use down up Tailspins also re quire substantial amount up-elevator snap rolls maneuvers 200 up travel may quite enough Since usually include spins ma neuver list performed regu larly K during flight training prefer provide adjustment elevator travel somewhere linkage cer tam sufficient travel K model enters slowly revolving spin com mand stops spinning delay instant controls neutralized Bob Dolly Wischer S-221 Lapham Peak Rd Delafield WI 53018 RC AerobaticslVan Putte Continued page 51 about change pace serious Pattern talk Ken Willard will pardon expression something Sunday fli er will understand appreciate Pre pare yourself fall off chair youre sitting following published RF Signal newsletter Isotopes R/C Model Club Owensboro KY edited Ron Epple Although credit ed believe Ron Epple wrote follow ing Building TipsAs lot al ready know am constantly being asked advice building flying large share World-class fliers have now decided share few secrets First open up box new kit turn upside down floor Dont worry pieces will go back in. larger box Find thickest deepest-pile carpet home examine hardware will enable improvise other-size screws bolts later Start building now Dont bother pin wing plans during construc tion method beginners sissies wing may move around lit tle itll okay Pour glue over wing way will sure joint secured Rememberglue cheaper new airplane plane has low wing dont drill holes blocks landing gear now can always after covered MonoKote patches add scale effect fuselageif box type use fine super glues around quickly build two left sides taking left sides apart can admire tenacity instant glues putting engine mount firewall dont bother measure centerline isnt important Dave Brown Hanno Prettner dont own measuring instruments such rule square incidence meter airplanes fly fairly decently because have whistles bells radios Go ahead cover fin stabilizer fuselage before gluing together modern adhesives have day can glue MonoKote Mono Kote smear some glue fin ish tell everyone gave plane weathered look Nows time drill holes engine mount usually just eyeball engine drill away Heres littleknown secretmost top builders fliers like myself never screw engine down right side several reasons position engine mount proceed drill A-in drill doesnt have room right side because dumb exhaust way Also muffler goes right side believe will provide enough weight hold engine down Anyway muffler place can see have side secured anyhow Set pilot figure table next plane Now glue canopy plane After sure epoxy has set up look over pilot still table Can see him smile Never repeat never fuel-proof thing you will violate Law Attrition fuel-proofing plane will eventually limp off somewhere can send check Hazel Sig another kit repeat fun process over again Happy building Isnt beautiful Despite humor vein truth showed through caught us things weve done wed just soon hadnt done doubt escaped unscathed Im going end column some real good ideas pub lished Talespins newsletter Aeromasters Model Alrplane Club Fred ericksburg VA edited Charles Rector authored follow ing Tricks TradeEpoxy glues great things have hap pened modeling recent years youd better doggone sure want something glued because after epoxy has hardened its glued forever really can soften epoxy heat Continued page 158 SAILPLANE LAUNCH EQUIPMENT FOR EVERY FIELD SPORTWINCH $225 qo * $300 QP * $35009 * $250 qp * * plu shipping source QUIET FLIGHT supplies histarts electric motors& reducers hatt er jes pa rachutes tow line drums accessories braided nylon line selected kitsthe PROPHET sailplane kit . VISA MASTERCARD bind EY fl EMS CORPORATION ONE WOOD LANEMALVERNPA19355 21S644-06926772 Write call information September 1984 155 C btteo ,ot incluied P OWR TOW C hattsiy inc1d R ZOOM RETRIEVER RC AerobatlcslVan Putt Continued page 155 separate glue joints Use heat gun blow hot air joint use chisel knife scrape heated epoxy away wood careful use heat gun scraping tools epoxy joint can opened virtually epoxy removed so-called five minute epoxies little tougher break down because tend form gummy mess heated Dont waste time heating polyester resinsit doesnt work As chemicals avoid breathing fumes epoxy work open area lots ventilation lot people coat inside tank compartment airplanes epoxy protect wood fuel leak age Usually epoxy too thick spread well often end up lumpy mess two ways around problem can thin epoxy alcohol lacquer thinner brush thinned epoxy surface can warm glue will reduce its vis cosity allow brushed Dont use good brushes Instead buy acid brushes hardware store throw away after use Good ideas way heated epoxy cures faster dont waste time Ron Van Putte Ill Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Old-TimerslMathews Continued page 53 set kit plans Joe did donate however 1938 Cloudster kit Recently Joe has built RC version design displayed La Junta last summer writer sali vated over poor thing begged Joe set blue lines has obliged share three-view form Cloudster Mk 11938 version bears virtually no resemblance its younger sister airfoil flat-bottomed stab flat fuselage much wider just differences dont show clearly photos older version also has multi-piece undercarriage stab inset fuselage glaringly apparent does have leading edge notch much trademark Mk II version net result must careful identifying Cloudsters reason have arbitrarily tacked Mk Mk II designa tions much someone else has done two Comet Clipper versions Some readers likely turned Mk going want plans Wed suspect annual member ship Joe Wagners Fun Flyers few dollars printing costs would get set Contact Joe Wagner Fun Flyers PO Box 94 Volant PA 16156 information membership new organization non-competition modelers worth having plans youre aware Fun Flyers concept should Products Old Timer first started writing column January 1977 sources kits supplies etc few far between ensuing years virtual explosion interest OldTimers has led many manufac turers marketing products aimed needs Now some major com panies introducing kits etc us see excellent measurement what Old-Timer idea has offer Obviously having fun would growing fast Since products manufacturers now available have unable keep up reporting Suffice say check ads various magazines SAM Speaks Perhaps astonishing develop ment has engines Suddenly can buy reproductions Forsters wicks Megows Super Cyclones Simplex etc Would believe repro famous Deezil available Australia responding ads Model via tion tell saw Another chapter Started Models previous columns Ive tried highlight modeling background several famous people commercial world Dr Paul MacCready Roy Mar quardt Roger Hammer others have mentioned Now lets add Burt Rutan dont know Burt youve never heard VariViggen Van EZ LongEZ Defender outof-the-rut canard-configuration designs Rutans genius mention new Beech Aircraft twin-pusher turbo prop canard Burt recognized around world preeminent expert canard aero dynamics has repeatedly demonstrat ed much-improved speed stability configuration much several aircraft concerns about release similar designs former National Champion very active modeler both Free Flight CL late 1950s like think some what learned shows now As example. remember Hobby Poxy EZ Does technique foam mold covered Dynel fabric epoxy glue Consider Burt Rutan also fellow pioneered composite construction homebuilts hottest thing aircraft indus try today composite structure airframe components Composites mixtures high-strength plastics such epoxy covering mixed layers fiberglass carbon fibers Im sure other people have instrumental de HObbY Horn Win9 Span--789 Wng Area--tOO Sq z JVW SENSOAR glider HOBBY HORN Esclusisel HOBBY HORN Kit SENSOAR Glider kit high qoality kit Machine cut sanded parts Select quality balsa spruce Oetailed plans written instructions THERMAL SLOPE 55 ELECTRIC POWER VALUE PRICED 51600 RflS tull Partial Ksto P & W Semi-Kits Combined full slripwood plan Now md Wire Window etc Mat fNote may purchased just os semikits planswrite call prices 1930 Buecaneer-84-8St 1938 Clipper MR l-72-$39 1837 Oellalre Sptser198$61 1940 Ranger46 $27 1939 Mercury72S56 1935 Miss Amerlca84-959 1941 Playboy Jr54929 1941 Ptayboy Sr80$46 1938 Power Hoaae84--S43 1949 Sailplane-YB-- $74 1940 So LongSO$28 1938 Trenton Terror-72S32 1939 Zlpper54949 1939 Korda Wakefleld44 $17 MIDWAY MODEL GO 3emt-klts CsmbneO w/olrtp 1936 FlyIng Quaker84-949 1937 Quaker Flash-OT539 1937 Long Cahin78-042 1937 Air Chief-01940 BYRUCKS 1940 79 Span 831 Sq aa SEMIKIT Plan lncl-S3300 NUW mI Sr Cowbo Pull Kit $9309 3CALPLANS fld ORAWINOS SIS HEINKEL HEbOO 62 60s $1000 onsrrdANDhsu 64 Page C Up $800 odd $110 $200 PP/Iso Clsos $801 $2000 odd $225 copy will sent $2001 $4500 odd $300 free--when requested$4501 $7009 odd $350 order over $7000 add $400 BBY HORN CA Addressees odd 6% tox 55hobby specialties5 Send MO Visa/MC#Exp15173 Moran Street [Al Check allow up 30 Box 2212 days cheek clearonceWestminster Ca 92683 CODExsct Charges 8938311 Mdl Cssh Onlv[AII UPS 4 8951203 158 Model Aviation
Edition: Model Aviation - 1984/09
Page Numbers: 50, 51, 155, 158
RaWo Control Sport & Aerobatics Ron Van Putte NEW RULES first two contests year have come gone Since compete Expert class maneuver schedule now different shorter yeaa two new maneuvers pattern After first two con tests can report Figure M / Rolls isnt tough Id feared Square Loop lot harder well expected Both no picnic strong winds discovered Square Loop requires lot finesse achieve square corners nice straight sides Perhaps observations col ored fact new airplane does such nice stall turns other Expert fliers also seemed mess up Square Loop reasonably well Figure M / Rolls Another observation made very few contests will able allow people fly AMA classes Pattern also compete FAT Turnaround pattern choose uniess ly about 30 fewer contestants reason just isnt enough time get sufficient rounds both con ventional pattern Turnaround 30 contestants Contrary early predictions Turnaround pro moters pattern takes least long fly conventional pattern Actual ly event takes about twice long conventional pattern because contests offer two flight lines AMA pattern line has shut down Turnaround flying Fortunately contest administrators two meets Ive attended realized potential time problem restricted competitors either standard AMA class Turn around classnot both Well probably see similar restrictions lot contests future positive side Turnaround fly ing reemergence Masterclass Pattern fliers dropped out Pattern flying philosophy seemed everyone starting scratch Turnaround good time get back sport Its nice see old-timers back flying Pattern again Turnaround pattern may produce new set specialists callers takes good caller able watch air plane read call sheet tell pilot next few maneuvers confusing both himself pilot already witnessed case caller burnout caller couldnt keep up pilot try remember maneuver 50 Model Aviation Fabulous new Pattern design Ivan Bouraler Latayette LA Inspired rekitting party boated Glide may poorbut should have plenty poweri BJ Meyer sent photo mystery pianehe photod Amarillo TX about 9 years ago doesnt kow what Ron thinks may Ted White Ei Gringo Can name Scott Stauffer Abbotatown PA ciaims paint job Dirty Birdy 60 resi bear color slide shows hard work worth effort Can believe first Pattern ship Lets hope flying skills soon match building skills sequence himself Perhaps memorization entire Turnaround pattern pilot foolproof method dont know large downgrades should flying out frame witnessed lot wide-angle flying no apparent downgrading Some Turnaround fliers have emphasized observers dont really see frame unless right up pilot judges Thats true unles judges severely downgrade flying out frame fliers will keep pushing turnarounds out until get penal ized Anyone has tried 4-Point Roll Two Rolls Opposite Direction wind blowing 15-20 mph knows tough stay frame Consequently fliers can should rewardedand vice versa cant Part reason mentioning emphasis keeping frame tight number different kinds airplanes saw two contests standard Pattern designs two-cycle engines special airplanes big four-cycle engines consensus conventional Pattern airplanes have advantage frame size enforced especially windy Turnaround pattern judges going have strong influence what will flown event Thats always true Pattern influence will stronger Turnaround pattern because emphasis proper frame size will have profound effect design Turnaround-pattern airplanes time decide what about Turn around pattern right now because Ive already heard some losers recent contests flew large four-cycle-pow ered airplanes talking about competing old conventional airplanes future contests Continued page 155 September 1984 51 Master-class flier Tommy Goison Baton Rouge LA helps out son Chad boys first Pattern contest L Scene Fiesta Five Fiags meet Pensacois FL Sam Leonard Orlando FL won FAi Turnaround pattern event Fiesta contest R fiying newly-imported Atlanta design Goiden Gate Hobbies Muffier icoks iike its Enya 90 12 four-stroker batteries rather adding nose weight 25% figure recommended RC Scale models avoid problems tailheaviness old Scale modelers bugaboo inadvertent snap-roll Changing incidence stabilizer will have some effect elevator travel re quirements tail-dragger airplane add bit extra up-elevator travel assure getting tail wheel down runway pretty three-point landing As airspeed diminishes near stall smooth landing elevator becomes progressively less effective full-stall landing Aeronca elevator uptravel 200 Since supposedly non aerobatic ship down-travel inconse quential aerobatic types airplane full-symmetrical airfoil use down up Tailspins also re quire substantial amount up-elevator snap rolls maneuvers 200 up travel may quite enough Since usually include spins ma neuver list performed regu larly K during flight training prefer provide adjustment elevator travel somewhere linkage cer tam sufficient travel K model enters slowly revolving spin com mand stops spinning delay instant controls neutralized Bob Dolly Wischer S-221 Lapham Peak Rd Delafield WI 53018 RC AerobaticslVan Putte Continued page 51 about change pace serious Pattern talk Ken Willard will pardon expression something Sunday fli er will understand appreciate Pre pare yourself fall off chair youre sitting following published RF Signal newsletter Isotopes R/C Model Club Owensboro KY edited Ron Epple Although credit ed believe Ron Epple wrote follow ing Building TipsAs lot al ready know am constantly being asked advice building flying large share World-class fliers have now decided share few secrets First open up box new kit turn upside down floor Dont worry pieces will go back in. larger box Find thickest deepest-pile carpet home examine hardware will enable improvise other-size screws bolts later Start building now Dont bother pin wing plans during construc tion method beginners sissies wing may move around lit tle itll okay Pour glue over wing way will sure joint secured Rememberglue cheaper new airplane plane has low wing dont drill holes blocks landing gear now can always after covered MonoKote patches add scale effect fuselageif box type use fine super glues around quickly build two left sides taking left sides apart can admire tenacity instant glues putting engine mount firewall dont bother measure centerline isnt important Dave Brown Hanno Prettner dont own measuring instruments such rule square incidence meter airplanes fly fairly decently because have whistles bells radios Go ahead cover fin stabilizer fuselage before gluing together modern adhesives have day can glue MonoKote Mono Kote smear some glue fin ish tell everyone gave plane weathered look Nows time drill holes engine mount usually just eyeball engine drill away Heres littleknown secretmost top builders fliers like myself never screw engine down right side several reasons position engine mount proceed drill A-in drill doesnt have room right side because dumb exhaust way Also muffler goes right side believe will provide enough weight hold engine down Anyway muffler place can see have side secured anyhow Set pilot figure table next plane Now glue canopy plane After sure epoxy has set up look over pilot still table Can see him smile Never repeat never fuel-proof thing you will violate Law Attrition fuel-proofing plane will eventually limp off somewhere can send check Hazel Sig another kit repeat fun process over again Happy building Isnt beautiful Despite humor vein truth showed through caught us things weve done wed just soon hadnt done doubt escaped unscathed Im going end column some real good ideas pub lished Talespins newsletter Aeromasters Model Alrplane Club Fred ericksburg VA edited Charles Rector authored follow ing Tricks TradeEpoxy glues great things have hap pened modeling recent years youd better doggone sure want something glued because after epoxy has hardened its glued forever really can soften epoxy heat Continued page 158 SAILPLANE LAUNCH EQUIPMENT FOR EVERY FIELD SPORTWINCH $225 qo * $300 QP * $35009 * $250 qp 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VISA MASTERCARD bind EY fl EMS CORPORATION ONE WOOD LANEMALVERNPA19355 21S644-06926772 Write call information September 1984 155 C btteo ,ot incluied P OWR TOW C hattsiy inc1d R ZOOM RETRIEVER RC AerobatlcslVan Putt Continued page 155 separate glue joints Use heat gun blow hot air joint use chisel knife scrape heated epoxy away wood careful use heat gun scraping tools epoxy joint can opened virtually epoxy removed so-called five minute epoxies little tougher break down because tend form gummy mess heated Dont waste time heating polyester resinsit doesnt work As chemicals avoid breathing fumes epoxy work open area lots ventilation lot people coat inside tank compartment airplanes epoxy protect wood fuel leak age Usually epoxy too thick spread well often end up lumpy mess two ways around problem can thin epoxy alcohol lacquer thinner brush thinned epoxy surface can warm glue will reduce its vis cosity allow brushed Dont use good brushes Instead buy acid brushes hardware store throw away after use Good ideas way heated epoxy cures faster dont waste time Ron Van Putte Ill Sleepy Oaks Rd Ft Walton Beach FL 32548 RC Old-TimerslMathews Continued page 53 set kit plans Joe did donate however 1938 Cloudster kit Recently Joe has built RC version design displayed La Junta last summer writer sali vated over poor thing begged Joe set blue lines has obliged share three-view form Cloudster Mk 11938 version bears virtually no resemblance its younger sister airfoil flat-bottomed stab flat fuselage much wider just differences dont show clearly photos older version also has multi-piece undercarriage stab inset fuselage glaringly apparent does have leading edge notch much trademark Mk II version net result must careful identifying Cloudsters reason have arbitrarily tacked Mk Mk II designa tions much someone else has done two Comet Clipper versions Some readers likely turned Mk going want plans Wed suspect annual member ship Joe Wagners Fun Flyers few dollars printing costs would get set Contact Joe Wagner Fun Flyers PO Box 94 Volant PA 16156 information membership new organization non-competition modelers worth having plans youre aware Fun Flyers concept should Products Old Timer first started writing column January 1977 sources kits supplies etc few far between ensuing years virtual explosion interest OldTimers has led many manufac turers marketing products aimed needs Now some major com panies introducing kits etc us see excellent measurement what Old-Timer idea has offer Obviously having fun would growing fast Since products manufacturers now available have unable keep up reporting Suffice say check ads various magazines SAM Speaks Perhaps astonishing develop ment has engines Suddenly can buy reproductions Forsters wicks Megows Super Cyclones Simplex etc Would believe repro famous Deezil available Australia responding ads Model via tion tell saw Another chapter Started Models previous columns Ive tried highlight modeling background several famous people commercial world Dr Paul MacCready Roy Mar quardt Roger Hammer others have mentioned Now lets add Burt Rutan dont know Burt youve never heard VariViggen Van EZ LongEZ Defender outof-the-rut canard-configuration designs Rutans genius mention new Beech Aircraft twin-pusher turbo prop canard Burt recognized around world preeminent expert canard aero dynamics has repeatedly demonstrat ed much-improved speed stability configuration much several aircraft concerns about release similar designs former National Champion very active modeler both Free Flight CL late 1950s like think some what learned shows now As example. remember Hobby Poxy EZ Does technique foam mold covered Dynel fabric epoxy glue Consider Burt Rutan also fellow pioneered composite construction homebuilts hottest thing aircraft indus try today composite structure airframe components Composites mixtures high-strength plastics such epoxy covering mixed layers fiberglass carbon fibers Im sure other people have instrumental de HObbY Horn Win9 Span--789 Wng Area--tOO Sq z JVW SENSOAR glider HOBBY HORN Esclusisel HOBBY HORN Kit SENSOAR Glider kit high qoality kit Machine cut sanded parts Select quality balsa spruce Oetailed plans written instructions THERMAL SLOPE 55 ELECTRIC POWER VALUE PRICED 51600 RflS tull Partial Ksto P & W Semi-Kits Combined full slripwood plan Now md Wire Window etc Mat fNote may purchased just os semikits planswrite call prices 1930 Buecaneer-84-8St 1938 Clipper MR l-72-$39 1837 Oellalre Sptser198$61 1940 Ranger46 $27 1939 Mercury72S56 1935 Miss Amerlca84-959 1941 Playboy Jr54929 1941 Ptayboy Sr80$46 1938 Power Hoaae84--S43 1949 Sailplane-YB-- $74 1940 So LongSO$28 1938 Trenton Terror-72S32 1939 Zlpper54949 1939 Korda Wakefleld44 $17 MIDWAY MODEL GO 3emt-klts CsmbneO w/olrtp 1936 FlyIng Quaker84-949 1937 Quaker Flash-OT539 1937 Long Cahin78-042 1937 Air Chief-01940 BYRUCKS 1940 79 Span 831 Sq aa SEMIKIT Plan lncl-S3300 NUW mI Sr Cowbo Pull Kit $9309 3CALPLANS fld ORAWINOS SIS HEINKEL HEbOO 62 60s $1000 onsrrdANDhsu 64 Page C Up $800 odd $110 $200 PP/Iso Clsos $801 $2000 odd $225 copy will sent $2001 $4500 odd $300 free--when requested$4501 $7009 odd $350 order over $7000 add $400 BBY HORN CA Addressees odd 6% tox 55hobby specialties5 Send MO Visa/MC#Exp15173 Moran Street [Al Check allow up 30 Box 2212 days cheek clearonceWestminster Ca 92683 CODExsct Charges 8938311 Mdl Cssh Onlv[AII UPS 4 8951203 158 Model Aviation